Derrek Lee

[ninja33]

There's no reason for the Yankees to give up anything of value for him, at least until Robertson and Soriano prove they can't handle the job. Soriano has experience as a closer and has a career ERA under 3. Robertson has been fantastic for the past year plus. Unless the Brewers are eating almost all of his salary the Yankees do not need him. I think K-Rod will be fine as the season evens out, obviously a 6.52 ERA is an incredibly small sample size....but his velocity has been declining, he's been allowing more baserunners (aside from 2010 he hasn't been under that career WHIP mark since 2006) and he hasn't shown anything this year (again, I understand small sample sizes) that shows a team should make him their closer, or at least give up anything of value to do so.

 

The Red Sox could be another Aceves blowup away from panicking and trying to make a move, so maybe there's something there. But expecting someone like Youkilis in return is ridicilis (it rhymes!), even if the Brewers throw in a prospect. As is expecting to create a bidding war for an overpaid setup man, especially when one team doesnt need him. And I doubt they would get back any sort of prospect that could fill in for Gamel (which is kind of the point of this Derrek Lee thread, I would assume).

[3and2Fastball]

In terms of K-Rod, I think teams get kind of hesitant with closers from year to year, because historically they collapse unpredictably. And K-Rod has been on somewhat of a decline for a few years now and every GM in baseball knows that at some point K-Rod won't have it anymore and they have to be wondering if that time is now... granted he is only 30 years old so chances are he'll still be valuable for a few years but you never know

 

Put it this way: would you give up a lot in a trade for Heath Bell or Carlos Marmol right now?

[ninja33]

Put it this way: would you give up a lot in a trade for Heath Bell or Carlos Marmol right now?

 

KRod hasn't quite melted down like either of them yet. and his contract is also up after this year, whereas those guys are owed way too much money for too long. I get what you're saying, but different scenarios....KRod probably has more trade value. and yes, he does have trade value. I see that, I just think we're setting our sights a little bit high (either youk or a cost controlled young 1B to replace gamel....so essentially Mat Gamel II)

[Bombers]

Derek Lee...it's the Brewers calling. Feel like being our starting 1b the rest of the year?

 

I'll Pass on Derek Lee. I might ask him to sign on our AAA team to see what he has. But to have him come in and hit a double play every day doesn't sound like a good time to me. I would prefer to just let Ishikawa, Kottaras and Conrad play the spot. (I do hope Kottaras gets some starts there. Maybe he has never played it though?)

 

In a month if that isn't working, I would prefer Hart to be moved there and then let Aoki, Morgan and Gomez play CF/RF. or Even call up Taylor Green and see if he can play 1B.

 

Ishikawa is hitting into plenty of double plays himself and Lee was at one point a much better player and is probably a gold golve caliber 1b. Though you might be right...he might be done. Who knows.

 

I really dislike Ishikawa and feel he never should have been on the roster so I want that fixed. Him playing every day is a joke. I really wanted them to bring up a third catcher and let Kottaras get starts at 1b, with Hart playing when tough lefties are on the mound or when Kottaras needs to catch for Wolf.

 

I am all for Kottaras getting playing time at 1B

[PrinceEatMeat]

http://rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/358545/derrek-lee-definitely-on-brewers-radar

 

According to this, Lee is definitely on the Brewers radar. Can't say that's surprising. Melvin even mentioned him before.

[RockCoCougars]

Now that Gonzalez is out, I'm much more in favor of this move. If Lee can come close to his production last year, he should help offset the black hole of offense that SS will most likely become. I'd guess that it would take at least 2-3 weeks for him to be ready to play though.

[markedman5]

http://brewernation.mlblogs.com/2012/05/06/brewers-may-have-offered-contract-to/

[PrinceEatMeat]

This definitely doesn't surprise me. I had heard from various sources since Gamel went down that the Brewers are seriously interested in Lee. Sounds like it could happen soon now. I definitely am not opposed to it. He could be a good addition.

[Oldcity]

Now that Gonzalez is out, I'm much more in favor of this move. If Lee can come close to his production last year, he should help offset the black hole of offense that SS will most likely become. I'd guess that it would take at least 2-3 weeks for him to be ready to play though.

His production last year was a .325 OBP. I don't understand the interest here. Green is likely to hit better than he is. If we're talking a strict platoon with Green and Lee, sure, but does anyone think Roenicke would do that?

[Raw Biz]

Now that Gonzalez is out, I'm much more in favor of this move. If Lee can come close to his production last year, he should help offset the black hole of offense that SS will most likely become. I'd guess that it would take at least 2-3 weeks for him to be ready to play though.

His production last year was a .325 OBP. I don't understand the interest here. Green is likely to hit better than he is. If we're talking a strict platoon with Green and Lee, sure, but does anyone think Roenicke would do that?

 

Agreed. Lee would be a great addition off the bench, starting against lefties, and defensive replacement. But I really would like to see what Green can do. He also shouldn't be rotting away on the bench. Although since he basically took Gomez' spot, he might be the first one sent back when Gomez comes back. If that's the case, then Lee is obviously better than Ishikawa/Conrad.

[monty57]

The Brewers seem to want to do anything possible to block Green from playing at the MLB level. Wouldn't it just make sense to give him some PT in hopes that he does something well so they could trade him?

 

The new look Milwaukee Brewers... trying to build a team like the Yankee used to, only with 1/2 the payroll.

[RockCoCougars]

What kind of production do you guys expect from 1B/SS going forward? I do not expect much, nor do I expect Green to be given the 1B job over Ishikawa. This is why I'd be interested in Lee.

[3and2Fastball]

I will join in the chorus of others saying it makes no sense to continue to block Taylor Green, this time with Derrick Lee. Lee has put up a .760 OPS in the last 2 seasons. They don't think that Green can put up similar numbers at the very least, at a much lower cost while gaining valuable experience for the future?

 

Then in 2013, instead of Taylor Green being the valuable LHB off the bench (at least that, if not starting somewhere for the Brewers) who can play 1B-2B-3B-OF, the Brewers can instead go with someone older because Ron Roenicke isn't comfortable with Green's "lack of experience"?! Seriously?

[jmeks23]

Although I do think Taylor Green has potential, I think most are severely over-estimating that potential. I just can't see him being a productive everyday player, and I'm pretty sure Brewers brass can't see it either which is why they keep "blocking" him. If he hits, his bat will get into the lineup even with D. Lee. Ishikawa will be the odd man out if Taylor Green plays well.

[Invader3K]

Doug Melvin just said on 620 that they talked with Lee, but "it's not going to happen."

[PrinceEatMeat]

Just heard Melvin on 620. He confirmed that they had discussions with Derrek Lee, but "that's not gonna happen." So scratch this off the list for now. Sounds like they'll go with internal options for now. Probably until closer to the deadline.

[Raw Biz]

Although I do think Taylor Green has potential, I think most are severely over-estimating that potential. I just can't see him being a productive everyday player, and I'm pretty sure Brewers brass can't see it either which is why they keep "blocking" him. If he hits, his bat will get into the lineup even with D. Lee. Ishikawa will be the odd man out if Taylor Green plays well.

 

I'm not just sure why people are so down on Green. You think he has potential but then don't think he can be a productive everyday player? He's only 25 and has hit at pretty much every level of the minors, even with a wrist injury. And last year he absolutely raked in AAA. I see no reason to think that he can't at least be a .750-.800 OPS type player. I'm thinking Lyle Overbay-esque, which would definitely be a productive everyday player to me.

[RockCoCougars]

Lee must want too much money. At any rate, he doesn't seem to want to continue playing that bad, so no loss. I wouldn't mind seeing Green getting the bulk of the AB's at first for awhile to see how things go. As I mentioned on another thread, Brad Eldred is available, maybe he could play first against lefties and be the needed RH bat off the bench.

 

In the end though, I'm thinking that Ishikawa will be getting most of the time at first for awhile.

[TURBO]

We have to do something, If Ishikawa continues to play at 1B, we might as well see what we have in Green. There is no way that Green will be worse offensively than Ishikawa, NO WAY possible.