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Weird about Uthoff. Wonder what's going on there? Seems like it caught everyone off guard. Maybe he sees limited playing time the next year or two and wants major minutes or something.
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He would've been their backup 3/4 man next year.

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My initial thought is academics, not playing time. I have no basis for that, but when you look at all the comments and the whole situation, it just seems that something weird is going on. Maybe he was homesick, maybe he couldn't make the grades. Who knows. Stinks though as he was a guy that I thought really could contribute the next few years.
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The more you read quotes from Uthoff's AAU coach the less sense it all makes. Sounds like the kid really liked Wisconsin, the system, the coaches but thinks there is a better fit somewhere. Coaches and players were shocked by his decision. It came right after Spring Break so I am not sure if he hungout with friends back home and just missed being around them or what but it sure is strange.

 

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Dekker will really need to step up this year with Uthoff gone. He'll be thrown right into the fire.

 

He would have been anyway. According to most people Dekker was going to be the number 3 forward behind Evans and Bruiser - although some thought he would end up getting more minutes than Bruiser. The Uthoff loss will only hurt a lot this year if one of those three get injured. It hurts much more two years from now

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As someone who transferred after my freshman year in college, I can't really rag on the guy. He's a 19 year old kid who probably didn't listen to his gut in the first place. Hope he finds what he's after.
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So I see all 5 of Kentucky's starters (three freshmen and two sophomores) decided to turn pro. I predict at least two of them will be busts. I'm actually getting a little tired of this one and dones. I'd like to see the NBA turn their draft rule into something like baseball's. High schoolers can enter the draft if they want to but if they do elect to go to college they can't enter the draft until three years after the date of their high school graduation. The thing I would change about it that either a) they can't go to college after they've been drafted or b) they can go to college after being drafted but the team that drafts them retains their rights for 4 years.
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He would have been anyway. According to most people Dekker was going to be the number 3 forward behind Evans and Bruiser - although some thought he would end up getting more minutes than Bruiser. The Uthoff loss will only hurt a lot this year if one of those three get injured. It hurts much more two years from now

 

Not a UW fan, but If Dekker can get up to speed defensively, he'll get huge minutes. I think he's the most talented recruit they've gotten since Harris and Tucker. He's gonna be a load to deal with as he progresses.

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Bo is really taking some flak for blocking him from several schools. I wish we could here more about this, because he really isn't coming off in a positive light to this point.

 

I don't know what more there is to hear, appears to be a clear cut d-bag move. Ryan basically blocked him from transferring to any conference school or any other 'big' school that UW may play. Sounds like sour grapes to me, and this is going to be held against him in recruiting- just another reason for top recruits to avoid a Ryan-coached team. I have a real problem with this sort of thing. If Ryan practiced what he preached, he would still be at UWM (or Platteville).

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Rivals final prospect ranking had Dekker as #15 and a 5 Star player. Man that kid shot up the latter fast; even more of a shame he didn't make the McDonalds All American team. Dekker will almost surely get significant minutes next year.

 

Blocking Uthoff from B10 and Marquette are kind of a given and the rumor is that Iowa State was snooping around him and Bo decided to block them as well. The ACC doesn't make much sense though; not much of a reason to block them.

 

It just seems weird that Uthoff all of a sudden wants to transfer to a school that better fits his playing style. Last time I checked UW didn't change the way its played since they recruited and signed the guy. He should not have been suprised; perhaps he is leaving because of threat of reduced playing time because of Dekker.

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perhaps he is leaving because of threat of reduced playing time because of Dekker.

 

That's the assumption I've made. I can't blame a kid for deciding to go somewhere else so he can play.

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perhaps he is leaving because of threat of reduced playing time because of Dekker.

 

That's the assumption I've made. I can't blame a kid for deciding to go somewhere else so he can play.

 

if that is the reason it is short-sighted since as a Sophomore he was penciled in to be a starter.

 

I am not a fan at all of Bo restricting the ACC. I totally understand the Big 10 and Marquette. Almost every school restricts their own conference and yearly rivals. Buzz restricted Maymon from the BE and Wisconsin. ISU seems like there are a few reasons. The ACC sounds like sour grapes

 

However those who think this hurts recruiting are more than likely wrong. There are tons of coaches who do much worse (this is not meant to justify what Bo is doing), including pulling offers from kids who commit, pulling scholarships once kids get to college, etc. Kids still commit to these schools and they will to Wisconsin as well. Kids dont think of themselves as being the ones who are going to get "cut" or who will need to transfer.

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Bo is really taking some flak for blocking him from several schools. I wish we could here more about this, because he really isn't coming off in a positive light to this point.

 

I don't know what more there is to hear, appears to be a clear cut d-bag move. Ryan basically blocked him from transferring to any conference school or any other 'big' school that UW may play. Sounds like sour grapes to me, and this is going to be held against him in recruiting- just another reason for top recruits to avoid a Ryan-coached team. I have a real problem with this sort of thing. If Ryan practiced what he preached, he would still be at UWM (or Platteville).

 

Sam Dekker was just named #15 in the country by Scout.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Bo is really taking some flak for blocking him from several schools. I wish we could here more about this, because he really isn't coming off in a positive light to this point.

 

I don't know what more there is to hear, appears to be a clear cut d-bag move. Ryan basically blocked him from transferring to any conference school or any other 'big' school that UW may play. Sounds like sour grapes to me, and this is going to be held against him in recruiting- just another reason for top recruits to avoid a Ryan-coached team. I have a real problem with this sort of thing. If Ryan practiced what he preached, he would still be at UWM (or Platteville).

 

Sam Dekker was just named #15 in the country by Scout.

 

Bronson Koenig is also number 50 or 70 one at rivals the other at Scout. He will be higher by the end of the summer as well because he was injured most of the year and reports are already good from AAU stuff

 

They sure are fleeing Bo and Wisconsin

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As for Uthoff, I agree that the number of restricted teams seems excessive. Big Ten and MU I can understand, but the ACC? ISU? The BIG/ACC challenge argument doesn't hold water to me. It's not like Uthoff holds all these secrets that other teams don't know already. By the same token, Uthoff should know ahead of time that by breaking his commitment he should have to face some kind of restriction. His quotes make it seem like he's surprised they're restricting him at all.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Ryan should be able to recruit in state, however, Wisconsin isn't exactly a hotbed of McDonald's All Americans. This is going to hurt out of state recruiting for sure, I'd bet that Tubby Smith is happy that Ryan made this move.

 

If recruits dont like what Bo is doing I am guessing they wont like how Tubby trashes his own players to the press - see Sampson and Hoff from the past two years.

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As for Uthoff, I agree that the number of restricted teams seems excessive. Big Ten and MU I can understand, but the ACC? ISU? The BIG/ACC challenge argument doesn't hold water to me. It's not like Uthoff holds all these secrets that other teams don't know already. By the same token, Uthoff should know ahead of time that by breaking his commitment he should have to face some kind of restriction. His quotes make it seem like he's surprised they're restricting him at all.

 

That is what is weird. Every school restricts in conference transfers. MU and UW restrict each other. Tulsa is restricting a kid to all but three schools or something. Last year Tubby Smith restricted a kid from any school they played the next year. This common. The ACC is wrong though

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Ryan should be able to recruit in state, however, Wisconsin isn't exactly a hotbed of McDonald's All Americans. This is going to hurt out of state recruiting for sure, I'd bet that Tubby Smith is happy that Ryan made this move.

 

If recruits dont like what Bo is doing I am guessing they wont like how Tubby trashes his own players to the press - see Sampson and Hoff from the past two years. Or the fact that Tubby restricted Colton Iverson from transferring to any team Minny played the next year

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Ryan should be able to recruit in state, however, Wisconsin isn't exactly a hotbed of McDonald's All Americans. This is going to hurt out of state recruiting for sure, I'd bet that Tubby Smith is happy that Ryan made this move.

 

If recruits dont like what Bo is doing I am guessing they wont like how Tubby trashes his own players to the press - see Sampson and Hoff from the past two years. Or the fact that Tubby restricted Colton Iverson from transferring to any team Minny played the next year

 

OK, Tubby's replacement will be happy then.... The bottom line is that this is a petty Bush League move. I don't see the reason for barring ACC teams as being the ACC/Big 10 Challenge. I think that Ryan feels a threat from ACC teams recruiting in Wisconsin. North Carolina has been pretty aggressive here as of late, and Bennett is now in Virginia. The bottom line is that if I'm a high school coach counseling one of my players who is pretty torn on where to go to school, I'd remind the kid of this precedent. I'm sure that coaches from other schools will as well. This really makes no sense to me, because I see no benefit and very little detriment to letting this kid go where ever he wants. He's already barred from the Big 10 unless he wants to pay his own way, and I don't see him hurting UW if he goes anywhere else.

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