reyes a "almost a done deal" with marlins

[prophet]

Yahoo, is reporting this along with Pujols visiting Miami to talk with the fish. Buerle was there a few days ago. If the Marlins get these three, they are contenders with a healthy Josh Johnson and Hanley moving to 3rd. But, would it make Gaby Sanchez available? And if so, what would it take? This question was asked a while ago too, and someone (can't remember who) said "start with Ryan Braun", which is a HUGE underevalutation of Braun. There isn't too many people in the majors worth Braun straight up, and Sanchez isn't one of them. So, seriously, what would it take?

 

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[prophet]

Yahoo, is reporting this along with Pujols visiting Miami to talk with the fish. Buerle was there a few days ago. If the Marlins get these three, they are contenders with a healthy Josh Johnson and Hanley moving to 3rd. But, would it make Gaby Sanchez available? And if so, what would it take? This question was asked a while ago too, and someone (can't remember who) said "start with Ryan Braun", which is a HUGE underevalutation of Braun. There isn't too many people in the majors worth Braun straight up, and Sanchez isn't one of them. So, seriously, what would it take?

 

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[Thurston Fluff]

Why trade anything for a guy who isn't a lock to be better than Gamel? I get that Gamel isn't proven but given Sanchez mediocre numbers for a 1B I'll take my chances with the kid who is cheaper and under control longer who won't cost us any other players.

[Thurston Fluff]

Why trade anything for a guy who isn't a lock to be better than Gamel? I get that Gamel isn't proven but given Sanchez mediocre numbers for a 1B I'll take my chances with the kid who is cheaper and under control longer who won't cost us any other players.

[monty57]

Sanchez is 28, with 3 years experience and a career OPS of .786. He should be heading into his first year of arby, so will start getting more expensive. I'm not a big MLE guy, but in another thread, it was listed that Gamel's MLE would put him around a .777 OPS. Now, Sanchez gets on base at a decent clip, and has played in a big park, so he'd probably get a boost from Miller Park, but I'd say the Brewers should shop elsewhere unless the price tag is really cheap. Sanchez would be safer than Gamel, but I wouldn't think it's worth trading for a 1B unless it would be a slam dunk upgrade over Gamel.

 

Anyone who said the price would "start with Ryan Braun" is way off. An MVP-caliber player for an average-hitting 1B doesn't really seem quite fair. If we needed the salary room, and Florida would pick up Hart's whole salary, then a Hart-for-Sanchez trade might be fair. Hart's a better hitter, but costs more. That would weaken the Brewers, cause Gamel to play out of place in RF and I doubt the Marlins would take the whole salary on, so I wouldn't do that trade unless we needed the money for a serious upgrade elsewhere. Actually, Gamel for Sanchez would probably be a fair trade, as Sanchez is "MLB proven," while Gamel has more team control.

 

As far as the rest of your post, it would be amazing if the Marlins landed Pujols, Reyes and Buehrle. That's a Yankee-esque offseason FA haul, and would certainly help fill the new stadium.

[monty57]

Sanchez is 28, with 3 years experience and a career OPS of .786. He should be heading into his first year of arby, so will start getting more expensive. I'm not a big MLE guy, but in another thread, it was listed that Gamel's MLE would put him around a .777 OPS. Now, Sanchez gets on base at a decent clip, and has played in a big park, so he'd probably get a boost from Miller Park, but I'd say the Brewers should shop elsewhere unless the price tag is really cheap. Sanchez would be safer than Gamel, but I wouldn't think it's worth trading for a 1B unless it would be a slam dunk upgrade over Gamel.

 

Anyone who said the price would "start with Ryan Braun" is way off. An MVP-caliber player for an average-hitting 1B doesn't really seem quite fair. If we needed the salary room, and Florida would pick up Hart's whole salary, then a Hart-for-Sanchez trade might be fair. Hart's a better hitter, but costs more. That would weaken the Brewers, cause Gamel to play out of place in RF and I doubt the Marlins would take the whole salary on, so I wouldn't do that trade unless we needed the money for a serious upgrade elsewhere. Actually, Gamel for Sanchez would probably be a fair trade, as Sanchez is "MLB proven," while Gamel has more team control.

 

As far as the rest of your post, it would be amazing if the Marlins landed Pujols, Reyes and Buehrle. That's a Yankee-esque offseason FA haul, and would certainly help fill the new stadium.

[RockCoCougars]

Hopefully this happens- everything except the trade with the Brewers, that is. I'd love to see Pujols leave the Cardinals, Reyes is overrated and Buehrle is old.

[RockCoCougars]

Hopefully this happens- everything except the trade with the Brewers, that is. I'd love to see Pujols leave the Cardinals, Reyes is overrated and Buehrle is old.

[owbc]

If Pujols signs quickly with Miami, does that make St. Louis the #1 suitor for Fielder?

[owbc]

If Pujols signs quickly with Miami, does that make St. Louis the #1 suitor for Fielder?

[nate82]

If Pujols signs quickly with Miami, does that make St. Louis the #1 suitor for Fielder?

No. They would just move Berkman to 1B and then have an OF of Holliday, Jay, and Craig which would actually improve the teams overall defense as funny as that may sound but it is the truth.

[nate82]

If Pujols signs quickly with Miami, does that make St. Louis the #1 suitor for Fielder?

No. They would just move Berkman to 1B and then have an OF of Holliday, Jay, and Craig which would actually improve the teams overall defense as funny as that may sound but it is the truth.

[TooLiveBrew]

I made a comparison last month that a proposed trade offer on Hanley Ramirez in the Transactions forum was akin to a Marlins fan offering Gaby Sanchez for Ryan Braun. That's the only time I can think of anyone saying anything about Sanchez-Braun, & I certainly wasn't saying anything about seriously trading Braun for him.

[TooLiveBrew]

I made a comparison last month that a proposed trade offer on Hanley Ramirez in the Transactions forum was akin to a Marlins fan offering Gaby Sanchez for Ryan Braun. That's the only time I can think of anyone saying anything about Sanchez-Braun, & I certainly wasn't saying anything about seriously trading Braun for him.

[brettac1]

I'm cool with this... as exciting/good of a player as Reyes is, he is a pretty big risk for the kind of money a team like the Brewers would have to throw down for him.

[brettac1]

I'm cool with this... as exciting/good of a player as Reyes is, he is a pretty big risk for the kind of money a team like the Brewers would have to throw down for him.

[TooLiveBrew]

Fwiw, here is the text from said Yahoo article --

 

What was previously known: that New York Mets free-agent shortstop Jose Reyes has visited the Marlins, and toured the nearly completed ballpark. Further, reporter Jorge Sedano of 790-AM The Ticket says a source tells him that Reyes and Marlins are "almost a done deal."

[TooLiveBrew]

Fwiw, here is the text from said Yahoo article --

 

What was previously known: that New York Mets free-agent shortstop Jose Reyes has visited the Marlins, and toured the nearly completed ballpark. Further, reporter Jorge Sedano of 790-AM The Ticket says a source tells him that Reyes and Marlins are "almost a done deal."

[JET15]

As much as I would love to see Reyes at SS for the Crew next year, I know that we'd end up over spending for him.

 

I am not sold on the idea of MIA getting all 3. That would be quite an off season. Hard to imagine pulling that off.

[JET15]

As much as I would love to see Reyes at SS for the Crew next year, I know that we'd end up over spending for him.

 

I am not sold on the idea of MIA getting all 3. That would be quite an off season. Hard to imagine pulling that off.

[PrinceEatMeat]

I'm actually worried Melvin will go after Rollins if Reyes signs with Miami right away. The Phillies supposedly don't wanna pay him what he's looking for.

[PrinceEatMeat]

I'm actually worried Melvin will go after Rollins if Reyes signs with Miami right away. The Phillies supposedly don't wanna pay him what he's looking for.

[topper09er]

Wow, what if first Miami stole Lebron James from Cleveland and then Pujols from St Louis?

[topper09er]

Wow, what if first Miami stole Lebron James from Cleveland and then Pujols from St Louis?

[monty57]

I am not sold on the idea of MIA getting all 3.

 

After my post above, I read that they're looking at increasing their payroll by around $30MM from 2011 to 2012. I don't know anything about their payroll obligations (arby raises, FA's leaving, etc), but $30MM wouldn't be enough for Pujols and Reyes, much less all three.