Milwaukee Bucks 2011/2012

[ninja33]

Larry Sanders 2.0

 

I guess not a bad pick; I would have preferred Zeller over him though. Really wish Lamb would have fallen another two spots

 

I like Henson. I think he'll end up being what most hoped Sanders could become. I don't know if Sanders will ever figure it out, so I like the pick. Henson runs the floor really well, and he has really good hands (unlike Sanders, so he at least has some semblance of an offensive game at this point) and can finish on the fast break or cutting to the basket. He could end up as a very good player in the pick and roll. He needs to bulk up and learn how to hit a 15 footer (neither are guaranteed) to hit his ceiling, but I think he was one of the best players available at that pick. Although I think Sullinger was the best available there, and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority for liking Henson or Sullinger.

 

I didn't really think about drafting henson because I agree he's redundant to Udoh and especially Sanders. But I just think he's talented, so I'm good with it.

 

I'd also be really happy if they moved up and got Barton or Miller right about now. Throw in next years second, I think both of those guys are solid rotation players which are hard to pick up in the second round.

[ninja33]

Would have really like Barton, but Lamb is a good get there. Pretty one dimensional, but it's a good dimension and he should be good for 12-15 points off the bench. I think he's a solid NBA rotation guy (2nd or so guy off the bench), which is good value in the second round.

[davego]

Lamb might be able to play a bit at point, too. He will have a bigger impact this year then Henson

[FVBrewerFan]

Henson is solid, he has some semblance of an offensive game already. He has post moves, a decent mid-range jumper, and can score by runnung the floor. Onthe other end, he can block shots. It will be nice to have a few guys who can block shots for the first time in a long time. He really is Sanders with a more advanced offensive game. With Sova and Leuer gone, he'll get plenty of minutes right awy, even with Skiles.

 

Lamb is nice too. Made me realize how badly we needed a flat out shooter. Especially if Carlos isn't back. Reminds me of Meeks pick, but I think Lamb has a better all-around game.

 

All in all, not earth-shaking but tw guys who can help. Can't expect much more than that where they picked.

[trwi7]

51 TS% as a junior. He's a horrible offensive player and will strictly be a shot blocker because he's going to get thrown around like a rag doll in the post.

[Baldkin]

Clearly it was a need pick, we had to replace the PF bench spots that Leuer and Brockman had left.

 

Can't wait to see Drew Gooden for 37 minutes a night again this year while Sanders, Udoh and Henson rot on the bench.

[patrickgpe]

i like the pick of henson, the problem is dalenbert, udoh, sanders, and henson are basically the same player. i like all 4 players but understand one may have to go to get a wing player.

 

at 14, i'm not sure how i would have drafted differently. maybe have taken terrence jones instead, but its a close call.

 

after how the draft shook out, i would have preferred taking lamb at 12 and figuring out a center via free agency or trade. I also was fine with how gooden played center last year even though thats not his best position.

 

the pick of the other lamb was awesome though. i was rooting for djo at 42, but i think they got a better player.

[PrinceEatMeat]

I hate the Henson pick with a passion. We now not only have a bigger logjam at PF, we have a logjam of PF who are horrible offensively and all do the same things on defense. Our best defensive option in the post is Drew Gooden. That is bad. This also guarantees that Ilyasova won't return. Dalembert also brings nothing defensively, so the majority of the time we'll have no scoring in the post. Should be fun watching our three skinny backups, Henson, Udoh, and Sanders, get pushed around in the post all year long. All while we have no length on the wing, so opposing guards tear us up as well. Watch, Hammond will now overpay for someone like Jamal Crawford or Nick Young. That would be just fitting. Make it even worse. Although, if we drafted a wing, he would've overpaid for guys like Landry and Kaman. So there's really no escape from the idiocy of John Hammond.

[rwa12]

I never thought I would say this, but I would have preferred Meyers Leonard. We draft a guy that we already had 2 too many of. How to split the 5 minutes a game these guys deserve between 3 people? Henson needs to put on about 50 pounds to be effective. You can have a designated shot blocker 4 (like Ibaka), if you have a tough 5 (like Perkins). We do not. Once again, our second round pick is better than our first. Hope they give him a chance, and don't dump him like they did Meeks. Wow, what a terrible first. Zeller, either of the Jones brorthers, hell even the French guy would have been a better pick.

[FVBrewerFan]

Don't forget the Bucks still have The Prince, yet another defensive forward with little offensive game. So you essentially have 6 guys at PF/C, 5 of which don't have much offense in their game.

 

But here's the thng. I'm not a huge Hammand fan, but he's not that stupid is he? I have to believe the Bucks aren't done dealing. I will reserve my rage until we see the fianl product. Not that the final roster will be world beaters, but at least I'm hoping it makes sense,

[rwa12]

Nah, maybe Hammond is aware that Milwaukee is going to be contracted, and is organizing a dominant volleyball team. That would make more sense than stockpiling assets in the one area that we have an overabundance (i know i know, you can never have too many scrawny one-dimensional shot blockers).

[fondybrewfan]

I slept on it and I still don't know how they picked Henson over Zeller. They based their decision on one pre draft workout that Henson supposedly was awesome at over the last 2 years of production at UNC where Zeller was clearly the better player.

 

I like the 2nd round pick but everyone already knows that he won't see the floor. Our guard depth is so atrocious it isn't even funny. And what do you do in 2013 when Ellis is gone.

 

I really don't know if the draft could have gone worse; I was really excited when Leonard went early which meant the Bucks wouldnt be getting ihm. But instead they draft a rail thin no offense forward.

[MJLiverock]

I admit I rarely watch the Bucks or the NBA anymore, the constant shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic that seems to be the roster strategy of Bucks just turned me off.

 

I did end up watching all the NBA Finals this year for the first time in a long time mainly because I wanted to see good teams, exciting play and not have a Lakers/Celtics lovefest to listen to.

 

I was somewhat intrigued to see who the Bucks would take, I like college basketball so I know most of the U.S. players. Of course the Bucks made an obligatory trade in the draft and really appeared to me to have done nothing to help themselves. All talk was by getting a 5 they would surely focus on a guard forward slasher scorer type. Sure enough I wake up this morning and see Henson, a guy even I as a fan who barely knows their roster, see and say to myself, "Don't they already have like 3 or 4 of him?" Then I notice the Rockets took Lamb (an all be it skinny player, but an athletic slasher guard forward they need) in the former Bucks spot and have to laugh at the almost willful creation of a horrible roster by Hammond.

[RockCoCougars]

I still can't figure this one out now that my hope that he was picked for someone else is gone. Apparently they coveted the guy. The one thing that I didn't want was another 'project big'.... the major problem here being that I don't think Henson has much upside. Watching Carolina play last season, I think that the argument could be made that Henson was the 5th best player on the team.

 

I'm not one of those heart-broken about missing out on a guy like Jeremy Lamb, but I wanted Zeller at the 14 spot. He probably would have stepped in immediately as the Bucks best offensive big man. The guy will never be a star, but I'd bet that he will be an effective player who will still be in the league in ten years.

[MJLiverock]

I wasn't enamored with Lamb, (not that I think you were singling my post out) just thought that with trading for a big defensive minded stiff for a team that seems be loaded with them they would surely look to another position in the draft.

 

I still remember being in China when the Bucks drafted Yi, the headline in the English language Chinese newspaper that day was "Draft Day Disaster!" I couldn't help but think to myself at the time, "For who?" They wanted Yi in a big market, I just saw another over rated too skinny project player that if he ever developed would want out of Milwaukee the second he was worth playing.

[RockCoCougars]

I wasn't enamored with Lamb, (not that I think you were singling my post out) just thought that with trading for a big defensive minded stiff for a team that seems be loaded with them they would surely look to another position in the draft.

 

I still remember being in China when the Bucks drafted Yi, the headline in the English language Chinese newspaper that day was "Draft Day Disaster!" I couldn't help but think to myself at the time, "For who?" They wanted Yi in a big market, I just saw another over rated too skinny project player that if he ever developed would want out of Milwaukee the second he was worth playing.

 

Ha. I remember watching the Yi draft with a friend. When the Bucks drafted him, I confidently said, 'They must have a trade in the works'. When it sunk in that they were actually keeping him, I got a real sinking feeling. Next to Darko, that guy has a case for being the 2nd biggest international flop ever.

 

Obviously, you can't expect too much at the 14 spot, but I was pretty disappointed. I think that either Zeller or Royce White would have been a better fit for some scoring down low... obviously the Bucks think that Gooden will provide all they need for that. At any rate, It's pretty obvious that the Bucks don't think much of Larry Sanders.

[homer]

For what its worth, Sean Devaney at Sporting News liked the Bucks draft.

[NievesNoNO]

I don't know. I like the trade for a starting C. There was really 0 difference picking at 12 or 14. They actually do need a shot blocker that can come off the week side considering the level of D Jennings and Monte play. I actually think their roster is somewhat interesting.. more interesting if they can keep Ersan. Between Jennings and Ellis that will me more than 50 percent of all the shots taken so they really only need some guys that can rebound anyway.

[dlk9s]

Between Jennings and Ellis that will me more than 50 percent of all the shots taken so they really only need some guys that can rebound anyway.

I figure it will be like a game of "500." Jennings and Ellis will throw it up in the air, call out a point value, and Udoh, LRMAM, Henson, Sanders, and Dalembert will all try to catch it.

[patrickgpe]

latest rumor is that the nets would like to do a sign and trade with the bucks, ersan for humpries. i'm sure they do, and i am sure the bucks have 0% interest in such a move.

K L Chouinard ‏@AnaheimAmigos

 

Peter Vecsey is tweeting that the Nets would like to to a Kris Humphries for Ersan sign-and-trade, but that Bucks (obvs) want no part of KH.

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an update, which i am mildly surprised about

 

K L Chouinard ‏@AnaheimAmigos

 

RT @WojYahooNBA: The Nets are still pursuing Bucks power forward Ersan Ilyasova, sources tell Y! Milwaukee has pushed to re-sign him.

 

i like ersan, i just don't see a need for him on this trade after getting henson.

 

also on a side note, after the nets signing of d-will, i am assuming somehow a trade of howard is just around the corner somehow.

[rwa12]

The radio said the Nets need to find a third team to have a chance at Howard.

[patrickgpe]

yeah the magic want nothing to do with Humphries and would need a team to do a sign and trade with the Magic and Nets.

[trwi7]

5 years just under $40 million the Bucks have offered Ersan. If he signs for that and it causes the Bucks to trade or amnesty Gooden the contract will be the steal of the century.

[RockCoCougars]

5 years just under $40 million the Bucks have offered Ersan. If he signs for that and it causes the Bucks to trade or amnesty Gooden the contract will be the steal of the century.

 

I don't see anyone matching that. If he accepts, it's obvious that they are going to have to move someone in that glut, that's for sure.

[fondybrewfan]

No one can match it; the maximum another team can offer is 4 years. The wildcard is the European teams as they can offer anything they want and if the money is good the allure of playing much closer to home and being a star rather than role player would be very appealling.