Milwaukee Bucks 2011/2012

[trwi7]

The problem is none of those players are anything more than role players. Gooden is the worst of all. At most those players are healthy and bring the team to a .500 record, likely less than that.

[Baldkin]

The problem is none of those players are anything more than role players. Gooden is the worst of all. At most those players are healthy and bring the team to a .500 record, likely less than that.

Yes, there's only been 1 team without a top 10 player to win a title in the last 20 or so years, still, there's also only been 1 team without a solid C since the Bulls... and the Bucks have one of the... 6 or so of those in the league.

They'll play solid defense, play .500 or a bit better, make the playoffs, and maybe even win a series. That's the most you can expect out of Milwaukee, until they get the #1 pick and draft the right guy.

The entire Bucks organization was so dysfunctional 3 years ago, its amazing how far its come since then. I mean, they were relying on Richard Jefferson & Charlie V in 08-09.

 

I really think they should entertain all offers on Bogut & Jennings & everyone else, and stockpile as many draft picks as they possibly can for the next two years and blow everything up.

The whole "Bogut for Bynum" thing would be horribly stupid, as we'd be taking on money and getting the worse player.

[trwi7]

It's still dysfunctional with bad players, bad ownership and a bad front office.

[rwa12]

I'd hang onto Bogut, but everyone else is available. He's a top six center, they just don't come along very often. Everyone else can be replaced. I'm curious to see how Jennings does with a vocal leader like Jackson. If Captain Jack can reign him in, they may be slightly above average. I would like to see them add another scorer before the season. Maybe they finally hit on the athlete in this years' draft, they can't all be Haislips...

[brwrsfan]

Bucks to sign Mike Dunleavy, Jr.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135270473.html

 

This move makes very little sense to me. He's really not very good...and we already have way too many marginal forwards on the roster. This move takes away playing time from rookies like Sanders, Leuer and Harris. Why bother to draft young players like that if you give them almost no chance to see any playing time of any meaning.

[patrickgpe]

seems to me that Dunleavy and Delfino are pretty similar players. Wonder if the bucks are going to try to trade him. I also believe this puts the roster at 13 guarenteed contracts while the bucks still have to sign Luer, Harris, and LRMB.

[Gobias Industries]

Delfino is a much better defender, but yeah I think their offensive games are pretty similar. Pretty meh signing. Typical Bucks.

 

So Hammond gave up a 2nd round pick to get the Celtics to take Dooling off our hands? He's an idiot, to put it kindly. Easily one of the worst gm's in pro sports. Dooling is not a bad backup pg at all. One of the teams that has to spend money would have surely took him. IIRC he got Denver to take Malik Allen off our hands after inexplicably giving him a 2 yr deal.

[yoshii8]

I like the Dunleavy signing, he's a good shooter and a smart basketball player. They really only had Jackson, Delfino and Tobias Harris at the 2/3 before adding Dunleavy.

 

Did you watch Keyon Dooling play last year? He is terrible. They gave up a conditional 2nd round pick, which probably means they only get it if the Bucks are in the bottom half of the 2nd round. Who cares?

[brwrsfan]

Well considering we had to give them a pick just to take Dooling, I would say it's pretty terrible he was even on our roster in the first place. We literally had to give up something of value just to get rid of him and got nothing at all in return.

[Gobias Industries]

Yeah, I watched a ton of games last year. Backup pg's are like backup catchers for the most part. They usually suck. Dooling wasn't bad at all though. He can defend, hit the 3 ball at a decent clip, and he's a good locker room guy. There's no way we should have been the one giving up the pick to take him off our hands. He's not a bad contract at all.

 

And when your a small market team you really don't wanna be giving up draft picks. That's the only way we have a chance at landing elite talent. I know, it's just a second rounder. But it's gonna suck when he probably has to give up our first rounder to get rid of Gooden. I swear to god Hammond's entire tenure has been him making mistakes and then "fixing" them. He's the worst.

[Baldkin]

Wow, this Chris Paul thing is nuts. Just.... nuts.Amazing. I am shocked.

[davego]

Hammond got off to a nice start, but not like it was rocket science trying to clean up that roster.

 

I'd keep Andrew. He wants to play in Milwaukee and has some skills. This is the year that we will find out (for the most part) what Brandon's upside is.

 

I sort of like the MDJ sign if he is used as a 12-15 minute-a-game shooter off the bench.

 

I don't hate Gooden as much as others. He has some vaule (maybe not for the price, but on the floor). But again, he has to have his minutes limited. If is handled as a "platoon-player", his value on the floor increases.

 

Just my random thoughts.

 

The rotations on this team will be...interesting.

[patrickgpe]

the CP3 trade screams of Cuban complaining to Stern.

[brettac1]

I hope Paul sues the league. What an absolute joke.

[yoshii8]

I hate Stern, but I'm glad he vetoed that trade. To give up Paul and not a get any draft picks or any young potential star players back is not fair, they Lakers would also be clearing a ton of cap space. If the league were not in control of the Hornets I would be a lot more angry abou this.

[rwa12]

Gotta disagree Yoshii. I think NO was getting the best of this trade. A pick, Kevin Martin and Luis Scola. Scola is way underrated, and Martin is a valuable player. Paul has a bad wheel, no telling when that goes out again. I had no problem with the trade, with the exception of the league vetoing it.

[rwa12]

Odom still has some value as well. They would be competitive with those additions. Can't forget, Paul is walking away with no return compensation in 7 months. This is a pretty big haul compared to that. They're not trading pennies on the dollar. Probably getting 75 cents on the dollar in this trade.

[berniebrewer4life]

I hate Stern, but I'm glad he vetoed that trade. To give up Paul and not a get any draft picks or any young potential star players back is not fair, they Lakers would also be clearing a ton of cap space. If the league were not in control of the Hornets I would be a lot more angry abou this.

They were getting back a first round pick.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Yeah, the Hornets made out like bandits in this deal. Martin, Scola, Dragic, Odom, 1st-rounder. Demps was getting praise from other GMs. this trade would've only worked out for LA if they also got Howard. Without Odom and Gasol they'd have no frontcourt or depth. Not gonna get through the Western conference playoffs with a gimp Bynum, Caracter, and Walton playing key roles in the frontcourt.

[brwrsfan]

I'm completely against the idea of super teams and star players forcing trades to basically the exact team they want (see Anthony, Carmelo)...but this trade seemed somewhat fair. I mean, they aren't going to get someone as good as Paul back, given his contract situation and talent level but I thought NO did a good job getting some solid players they could use this year, as well as a first round pick.

[Vgmastr]

So FSN is going to televising every single Bucks game, which means most April Brewer games will be bumped to WMLW and won't be televised at all outside of Milwaukee. God, I hate the NBA.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Yeah, that'll really suck. I live in the Milwaukee area, but watching on WMLW sucks so bad it would just be better to not watch at all.

[craigharmann]

What bugs me about the trade/no trade is Stern says it's in the best interest of the NBA for CP3 to be in NO. That's like Bud saying, nope, Pujols can't sign as a free agent with the Angels....or, back in the day, Tags saying, nope, Reggie can't sign with the Packers. Stern is a tool, and has been for many years. I hope he gets the boot.

[Gobias Industries]

The huge problem with the deal was that the Lakers were getting the best player in the deal and saving 40 mil in luxury taxes. And then you found out they were getting Okafor on top of that to offset some of the damage in getting rid of two bigs. I agree that NO actually got an impressive haul. I thought Houston definitely was taking the worst of it but supposedly they might have had enough money left over to sign Nene too, so I dunno.

 

The thing that bugs me now is what the hell is NOH gonna do? Are they forced to just let Paul expire at the end of the year because Paul will only allow trades to the market he wants to go to and those will basically get vetoed by the league?

 

This is why the lockout was pointless. The owners had all the leverage in the world and we're still facing the same problems. Needed to get a franchise tag and hard. The owners failed miserably. Kudos to Kohl for actually being one of the hardliners.

[craigharmann]

I wonder if Paul is even going to play this year. If he requested a trade, one was worked out and the commissioner himself said no, then why play?