Milwaukee Bucks 2011/2012

[adamb100]

If a new arena gets built there is no way the Cell stays in business, there is no way Milwaukee could support 3 arenas of that size, and that real estate is just too valuable (even in the form of a parking garage) to go to waste. That leaves UWM basketball looking for a home, as well.

 

There has been talk of trying to get an arena built on the UWM Campus (or close to it) which would make a lot more sense than them moving to the Bradley Center (assuming the US Cellular arena is knocked down).

[paul253]

Regarding the US Cellular Arena. If a new arena gets built the Cell needs to go. No reason at all to have three arenas in a city with one professional sports team. UWM, who should build an on campus arena anyway, can go to the BC even if Marquette stays. So can the Wave. The Cell should be torn down and the Frontier Airlines Center should be expanded so it can hold larger conventions, like a Republican or Democratic National Convention. It would be great for Milwaukee to get a convention like that. It would also help lead to another hotel development at the land the city wants a hotel to be built on (W. Wisconsin Ave between 4th and 5th St)

 

Someone needs to take charge of this project, someone who realizes that a new downtown arena is not just the project, it's the first step in a much larger project.

[LouisEly]

"I would believe that MU could improve their financial standing by establishing a relationship with the BC after a new arena is built. Today, the BC operates solely to support the Bucks, squeezing every source for the franchise. If the Bucks has a new arena and MU wanted to be the lead tenant in the "old" building, they likely would have more revenue rights. It wouldn't be as sexy as playing in the new NBA arena, but it's still a nice place that MU could be the "lead dog.""

 

I wonder how much this impacts Marquette's recruiting. They don't have the name recognition that a Duke, UNC, Kansas, or Kentucky has. They aren't a big school like Ohio State, Wisconsin, UCLA, or Michigan State. Yes, Marquette won the national championship in the 70's... but with the explosion of ESPN and the like, kids want to go to Duke/UNC/Kansas/etc. because they will be on TV more or because their coaches are on TV more. If Marquette didn't have an NBA arena to sell, would Dwayne Wade have come to Marquette? Would Marquette be Marquette, or would it be more like Duquesne than Duke?

[trwi7]

The Bradley Center is not going to be kept if a new arena gets built. The only events the BC would get are maybe UWM games and Wave games and they don't draw enough people for the 18,000 seat BC. Concerts and events aren't going to want to go to the BC.

[paul253]

The only events the BC would get are maybe UWM games and Wave games and they don't draw enough people for the 18,000 seat BC. Concerts and events aren't going to want to go to the BC.

 

I would bet the Admirals would stay as well. The BC was built for hockey. A new arena will be built for basketball. The Admirals would probably be better off staying in the BC because it will cost a lot less and it's better setup for hockey.

[trwi7]

Once again, they're not going to keep an 18,000 seat arena when all they are going to get from it are a couple minor league teams and a mid major college team at most. There's no way it's going to remain in operation if those are the tenants and you're not going to get major recording acts or shows when there's a brand new arena in the city.

[patrickgpe]

In a perfect world, an arena on the lake gets built. The lakefront is very underutilized in Milwaukee. The cell and BC can get

bulldozed and a new hotel built in the space. Milwaukee built a large convention center and gets no conventions because of the lack of hotel space.

[DatHoser]

Adding on to Patrick's idea, which makes too much sense by the way, if the new arena were built near the Summerfest grounds, parking could be shared between the two as their seasons are exclusive.

[owbc]

I don't see the point of a lakefront arena. What makes the lakefront better? That it has a nice view? I don't see any advantage. If you want to get those big conventions, the arena should be adjacent to the hotels and convention center in an entertainment district. That should be the goal.

 

Site acquisition is literally almost half the battle in getting a new arena built. It's a big reason why Miller Park was built next to County Stadium. If public finds are involved, there isn't going to be money to spare to acquire a new site.

[trwi7]

They have all the Park East land they've been trying to develop for years and we're talking about trying to cram an arena down by the lake. Keep it where it is and develop the Park East. Menomonee Valley should be the second option. Lake should be about 10th.

[RockCoCougars]

Seems like it's tough enough for the Bucks to get people downtown to the games, and it'd be even harder to get them down to the lakefront. I'm pretty sure that the Bradley Center was originally going to be put in the parking lots at County Stadium, but Bud put the kibosh on that. Elsewhere in the Menomonee Valley would be easier for me and other 'outstate folks' to get to, but in my opinion, the Bucks would have the biggest economic effect right where they are. If done right, a new arena complex could be a great shot in the arm for that area.

[paul253]

The City of Milwaukee really blew it by letting Miller Park be built where it was. While it may have been inconvenient for out of town fans, a downtown stadium would have been a tremendous boost to businesses and even housing and office buildings downtown. If they allow a new arena to be built anywhere but downtown they should all be recalled.

[NeedMoreFans]

The city also blew it when they decided not to reconnect the new convention center with the US Cellular Arena/Milwaukee Theatre. I know the original plan was to expand the exhibition hall north towards Wells, then reconnect, but it did not bring in the revenue needed to do so (due to lack of hotel space). That is what is so unfortunate about this whole new arena idea. There is no true way to make it "right" unless they raze the Cell to build the new arena...but I think the footprint for a new arena would be way too big to fit that space. Many of the cities that have larger conventions have their arena (or domed stadium) tied in with their convention center, and that is just not possible anymore with Milwaukee.

[homer]

Seems like it's tough enough for the Bucks to get people downtown to the games.

 

That's because they've sucked. Again, they were 12th in the league in attendance back in 01-02 and that was primarily due to the fact that the BC didn't have a bigger capacity.

[davego]

Boy, if they could have made it in, the Bucks could be in the second round.

[RockCoCougars]

This is why you go for the playoffs in my view. It may be a longshot, but anything can happen once you get there. I don't want to hear how Philly is a much better team either. They played like complete crap in two of their wins, including last night. I'm not saying that the Bucks would have won the series, but they would have taken it to 6-7 games at the least.

[bullox]

Boy, if they could have made it in, the Bucks could be in the second round.

 

Except when you go back and look at the games the Bucks needed to win down the stretch to get in to the playoffs. They fell flat on their faces. They basically got swept in round (-1).

[trwi7]

Not only that but there's no guarantee Rose blows out his knee if the Bulls are playing the Bucks and even if he does there's no guarantee that Bucks beat the Bulls anyways. The Bulls problem in this series was scoring. The Bucks absolutely suck on defense with a tiny backcourt and Gooden playing center, well Gooden playing at all. The Bulls would have been able to score and my guess is would have been able to hold the Bucks offense down enough to win the series.

[davego]

All this is most likely true, but seeing the '6ers in the 2nd round also shows what "could" happen just by making the playoffs.

[trwi7]

Yes, well if that involves the other team losing their star player in game 1 and starting center later in the series, chances are that is likely to never happen and not a reason to just hope to make the playoffs.

[davego]

...and you can't win if you are not in. The last two Super Bowl champs show us that.

 

Regardless, the draft springs hope eternal.

[trwi7]

Comparing the NFL playoffs to the NBA playoffs is ridiculous on so many levels.

[fondybrewfan]

Most NFL teams that make the playoffs have a legitimate shot at winning a title because they are actually a good team. Only 12 of 32 teams make the playoffs. In the NBA that bottom seeds are extremely mediocre teams that have no real shot of winning the title and are just hoping to wins some games and/or a series and get some playoff revenue. 1/2 of the league makes the playoffs; it is a little ridiculous. That is the difference.

[M Skjellyfetti]

I agree NFL and NBA playoffs are different, but I'd argue that it's more based on the fact that the NFL playoffs are one game events versus seven game series(es?). That alone introduces all kinds of random luck effects into it. Make the NBA playoffs a single elimination tournament and you'd end up seeing some deep runs by 8 seeds as well.

[Baldkin]

Most NFL teams that make the playoffs have a legitimate shot at winning a title because they are actually a good team. Only 12 of 32 teams make the playoffs. In the NBA that bottom seeds are extremely mediocre teams that have no real shot of winning the title and are just hoping to wins some games and/or a series and get some playoff revenue. 1/2 of the league makes the playoffs; it is a little ridiculous. That is the difference.

 

The difference between 12 of 32, and 16 of 30 is absolutely huge.