Milwaukee Bucks 2011/2012

[yoshii8]

I don't put too much trust into Woelfel rumors, but I agree that I think its bad timing to trade Bogut. I hope the Bucks are just putting his name out there to see what he can get, and only trade him if they can get significant value back.

[RockCoCougars]

Just read the Bogut article. It seems that most of it is based on his relationship with Skiles. I'm assuming that barring a 2010-esque March run, Skiles is good as gone.

[Baldkin]

Of course they beat the Knicks tonight.

 

Of course. Let there be.... hope?

Sigh.

 

Ersan is a beast. I really hope they move him.

[yoshii8]

I guess we should assume that they will be going for that 8th seed now. I don't think we're getting Anthony Davis.

[JoeHova]

I love to see the Bucks beat the Knicks. Same with the Bulls and a few other teams. I don't necessarily have a philosophical objection to tanking but I want the Bucks to beat the Knicks every time they play.

[RockCoCougars]

Today, I read somewhere that of the remaining games that the Bucks have, only 8 will be against teams that currently had a winning record. I don't know what that means outside of the fact that there are a ton of bad teams in the NBA right now.

[Oldcity]

Barkley is right. The NBA needs contraction.

 

There is no point in trading one of Bogut, Ersan, LRMAM, Delfino, etc. Just blow the whole thing up. Nobody on the entire team should be held out of trade discussions. They need to acquire draft picks.

 

Not convinced they'll ever do that with Kohl in charge, though.

[RockCoCougars]

Barkley is right. The NBA needs contraction.

 

I'm sure the players union agrees. Just have a 10 team league with two teams in L.A., three teams in Miami South Beach, a team in Vegas, two in New York, Boston and Chicago (the last three can only play home games after March 1st).

 

The problem for trading for draft choices is that with the surplus of terrible teams, I'm sure that many have the same idea.

[rwa12]

I don't think physical's are necessary. Raef La Frentz seemed to be traded about 6 times without ever playing a game. As far as Drummond, ready Defense with no Offense often = Thabeet. He is raw, logic says stay in school and learn to play the game without the pressure. Reality says he takes the payout, and hopes to learn to play over the course of his rookie contract. It's a sheer a sheep/kill a sheep thing for me.

[CheezWizHed]

Barkley is right.

 

This is never ever true. Not commenting on contraction, just on Barkley.

 

Raef La Frentz seemed to be traded about 6 times without ever playing a game.

 

Nah, that was actually just La Frentz's contract. I'm pretty certain he just stayed at home that whole time.

[Baldkin]

TJ Ford had another neck/back injury and has decided to retire.

 

Such a shame. I always thought he could've been really, really good had he not been hurt.

[RockCoCougars]

I'll never forget Ford's first game. He looked like a star from the get go, and led the Bucks to a woodshed win on the road against the Pacers, it was like he was twice as fast as anyone else on the court. It was all downhill after the injury though. Too bad.

[TooLiveBrew]

It was all downhill after the injury though. Too bad.

 

I distinctly remember watching that injury happen, in-game. I was horrified, but even with that I didn't think the injury would basically end TJ's career (as a top-flight PG).

 

one more *shudder*... that was a bad injury

[CheezWizHed]

So anyone think that Jennings will be traded today?

[yoshii8]

No, I think Bogut is more likely to be traded. It's going to be an interesting couple days until the deadline on Thursday.

[patrickgpe]

No, I think Bogut is more likely to be traded. It's going to be an interesting couple days until the deadline on Thursday.

from what i saw as rumored as return, bucks fans are going to be disappointed. i heard a package javelle mcgee from the wizards or dalembert and courtney lee from houston.

[yoshii8]

I don't he'll be traded if thats all he's worth right now. I think they would wait until healthy to trade him.

 

I've heard other reports where the Bucks would be getting a young all star point guard too. So who knows, I'm very interested to see how it ends up.

[CheezWizHed]

until the deadline on Thursday.

 

Doh! I misread it on JSOnline and thought it was today...

[Baldkin]

Day one of March Madness + NBA trading deadline.

 

Might suffer from basketball overload.

[NievesNoNO]

Here's my take on the Bucks as a casual fan: 1. Skiles wears out his welcome quickly. He claims to preach defense but his teams rarely play it and they look quite average on offense. It doesn't matter what the reasons for the players not responding but if they don't the coach must go.

 

2. They clearly don't have enough talent, coaching issues aside. They should trade anybody they can for a reasonable return. They have two things going for them right now: Jennings and Ilyasova. Unfortunately for them neither is a superstar. Jennings if guided by the right coach might have that ability. Ilyasova, in a rare moment of honesty by a pro athlete, has all ready proclaimed he'll play for whoever will pay him the most money next season.

 

On a side note: the NBA financial structure is one of the worst in sports. The salary floor makes it darn near impossible to rebuild a team.

[trwi7]

He claims to preach defense but his teams rarely play it .

 

Wow, really? The last two years prior to this one the Bucks were 2nd and 4th in defensive efficiency. They obviously suck this year because Drew Gooden would rather watch a guy go by him to the basket than defend him.

[fondybrewfan]

Not having Bogut at C also really kills the defense.

 

Defense has been the least of my concerns for the Bucks. The overall lack of athletic ability, lack of offensive playmakers, and no backup C are the reasons for the Bucks downfall.

 

They have put a little streak together again and now have the honor of being the #8 seed and getting spanked by CHI or MIA and then getting a high teens draft pick.

 

This streak almost certainly takes blowing up the team out of the question as Kohl/Hammond would surely like to make the playoffs if they have a decent chance

[CheezWizHed]

I'm actually a bit of a Skiles fan. There are a small group of elite coaches in the NBA. Skiles fits in the mediocre middle group. But that is a big improvement from the Lets-hire-a-guy-with-BB-name (Porter, Larry K) coaches we had prior. Skiles has suffered from a serious lack of talent, but I thought he has gotten the most out of what he had.

 

The "Fear the Deer" year showed that Skiles can coach defense. That was a no-offense team. They still pushed Atlanta pretty far without Bogut.

[BradWI]

This team will never have the total rebuild it so desperately needs, well at least not while the team is in Milwaukee.

[paul253]

I've been hearing rumors lately about Bogut and Jennings being dealt in the same deal. But I don't like the idea of bringing back more pricey vets. The idea should be to rebuild the team with a young, cheap core. That involves first round draft picks. If I were to deal those two together, I'd want at least two first rounders in return, probably more.