2011-10-10 Cardinals (Jackson) at Brewers (Marcum) - [Brewers lose, 12-3; NLCS tied 1-1]

[jason21nl]

Terrible decision to go up there hacking 3-0, I don't care if the pitcher is batting behind you. Then to compound the problem chasing a 3-1 slider in the dirt makes it even worse.

He was being patient but swinging out of his shoes on a 3-0 count jacked him up for the rest of the at bat. I don't like it either. He can hit them, but its not like he is a home run hitter

[endaround]

How would things have changed if Lucroy took a fastball bown the middle for 3-1 instead of swinging at it? He should have known off speed 3-1, but swinging 3-0 at a fastball down the middle is fine with the pitcher up next

[ninja33]

i have no problem with him swinging 3-0. he definitely got a pitch to hit, and the pitcher behind him makes a difference. Just didn't get it done. it happens. if he takes strike 1 there how can you say he still doesn't chase a 3-1 slider?

[mkm13]

Hart has much more power than Lucroy..I will take my chances anyday with the bases loaded over Lucroy with a guy on 1st and 2nd.

[JeffreyHammondsBlownOutKne]

and Nelson Cruz just walked off

I still can't decide how I feel seeing two Dallas area teams benefiting from players sent to them from Milwaukee but it's hard not to like Cruz (and Dirk).

[sargennm]

Crud, bad break.

[dlk9s]

That's not a terrible decision in the slightest to give Lucroy the green light 3-0. Pitcher is up next and he can sit dead red. He just didn't smash it, which isn't some heinous crime. I mean, do we really think there was a good chance Marcum was going to drive in a run with the bases loaded? We would've all been praying for a strikeout. Also, it's not like Lucroy was just hacking 3-0. He was looking for a fastball that he could hit and he got one. If it was a ball, he likely would've walked. The next pitch was a great job by Jackson.

[ninja33]

Hart has much more power than Lucroy..I will take my chances anyday with the bases loaded over Lucroy with a guy on 1st and 2nd.

how were the bases loaded? By taking a first strike that means he's going to take that slider? even if you can prove that (you can't), what if marcum GIDP?

[jason21nl]

Jackson more than likely would have come with back to back fastballs if he didn't swing at the first one. By swinging at the first 3-0 pitch, Jackson knew that Luc was probably going to sit fastball and threw him off speed. It changed the whole at bat.

[wOOgiE22]

ahhhh man hart that would have been huge

[B2k1121]

Another lucky grounder for the Cardinals

[owbc]

Just one of those innings where everything is 2 inches from being an out.

[mkm13]

how were the bases loaded? By taking a first strike that means he's going to take that slider? even if you can prove that (you can't), what if marcum GIDP?

I never said anything about if he took the 1st pitch he would then take the slider.

 

If he walked the bases would have been loaded. If he didn't chase the terrible pitching the dirt 3-1 the bases would have been loaded with Marcum up. Obviously Marcum could have hit into the double play..but he could have also had a hit as well.

 

 

[sargennm]

John Jay. Wasn't he the guy that hit a gopher ball on one knee a couple years ago.

[razzzorsharp]

Two fly balls that hit the gloves in the inning. That sucks.

[owbc]

Another one 6" from being caught. This sucks.

[hurricanecrush]

BA with the subtle dig when referring to Alberta's 1st inning HR: "He enjoyed every minute of that one."

[dlk9s]

Pujols is excellent at staring at doubles.

[ninja33]

how were the bases loaded? By taking a first strike that means he's going to take that slider? even if you can prove that (you can't), what if marcum GIDP?

I never said anything about if he took the 1st pitch he would then take the slider.

 

If he walked the bases would have been loaded. If he didn't chase the terrible pitching the dirt 3-1 the bases would have been loaded with Marcum up. Obviously Marcum could have hit into the double play..but he could have also had a hit as well.

 

well yea. I'm not defending lucroy for swinging at that 3-1 pitch. I just don't think it had anything to do with greenlighting him on 3-0. it was a fine decision.

[razzzorsharp]

Njyer is not playing a good CF.

 

And Pujols does the beast mode.

[adamb100]

ugh.

 

I hate Pujols.

[Ennder]

Sucks, Gomez in CF and that is 3 outs, why couldn't Jackson be LH!

[Chio151]

So this is what it feels like to be kicked in the stomach...

[ReverendBrewmeister]

Could have used Gomez in CF tonight.

 

There has to be some serious consideration of Narveson to take Marcum's spot for the next start.

[bjkrautk]

Nyjer Morgan is not good at catching the ball near the wall.

That should have been an out.