Brewers have serious interest in Jose Reyes?

[Bombers]

I am on board for Reyes if they money isn't crazy. If it is, Barmes would be my 2nd choice.

 

I just hope I don't hear "Yuni B" has been re-upped by the Brewers. I understand he didn't have the "down" year everyone on this board thought he was going to have (And hit great in the playoffs) but he fits the mold of too many players we already have. (Not great D, low average, decent slugging) ... And his first pitch swingin! attitude I just don't think I could bear for another year.

[brewmann04]

Give a defensive SS who can hit for a nice average and some Pop and i be very happy .

[jmeks23]

I truly think (and hope...and pray...) that Yuni was just a one year thing. There really was no better option this year, though Doug did get some capable backups.

 

I mean, I don't think he would've had the Royals give us the buyout if he didn't plan on using it.

 

I will give Betancourt credit for one thing, and one thing only. He came to play in the playoffs, and was one of there better hitters in the playoffs. Still wouldn't mind if he accidently fell off a cliff this off-season. Maybe that's a little harsh, but oh well.

[pingman]

Reyes is as risky as they come.... total head case & you'll never know if you can count on him

 

Did he have a great season because it was his contract year? just saying because if you commit, say, 8 years for $150 million you better get 100% effort & great character for the length of the contract otherwise a small market franchise is screwed ....IIRC his agent was asking for Fielder-type $$$$ earlier in the season

[dadofandrew]

Give a defensive SS who can hit for a nice average and some Pop and i be very happy .

There are maybe a dozen SS's that fit that description, and they are either unavailable or making $8M+ a season.

[The Truth]

I just don't see the Brewers being able to hang in the Reyes sweepstakes. He's asking for Fielder $$$. If the Brewers were going to go there, they'd just sign Prince

[dadofandrew]

No one knows if he'll get it, but many say Prince is hoping for 8y/$200M. Reyes will not be anywhere near those numbers, in years or money.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Yeah, there's no way Reyes comes anywhere close to the money Fielder will get. It's just not gonna happen.

[RockCoCougars]

I really don't think that Prince is going to get 8 years. He'll be lucky to get 6. I could see a foolish team giving Reyes 7 years though. In the end, I think Reyes comes a lot closer to Prince in annual salary than people expect - as in within $5 million or so I'm going to predict that Reyes gets like 7 years/$125 million and Prince gets 6 years/ $140.

[Nader Raider Tim]

Just because I am always bored at work I was trying to come up with the "best offer" I would make to Reyes.

 

6 Year $115 Million (With another $15 Million is reasonable ish Incentives)

 

Year 1 - $15 Million base with a $5 Million Signing bonus

Year 2 - $19 Million base

Year 3 - $20 Million base

Player option to terminate contract after year 3

Year 4 - $20 Million base

Team option to terminate contract if player has spent more than x amount of days on the DL over x timeframe (Don't know if this is allowable under league rules but I'd want something like this in a Reyes deal)

Year 5 - $20 Million base

Year 6 - $16 Million base

 

Incentives $500,000 each for 500 AB, 600 AB, 650 AB, Silver Slugger, All Star

Then tack on some of the less likely Incentives. BA Champ, MVP et al

 

 

I don't know if Reyes is the kind of guy that would even be receptive to the idea of coming to a place like Milwaukee but if he is then this is the range of contract I would be willing to see the Brewers do. It's a risk and it is going to require that the Brewer push payroll to the mid to upper $90 Million range but a top of the order with Reyes, Weeks, Braun could be deadly. I still like Weeks as a number 2 hitter.

[RockCoCougars]

In my view, not even considering whether I think he is worth it, the major issue here is that the Mets want to bring back Reyes. You can talk about Madoff all you want, but my guess is that they will drive the market up big time. These guys are in the number one media market and have revenue streams that make the Brewers' look like a trickle. Plus it seems that his preference is to stay in New York as well.

[endaround]

Its not only the Mets, the Phillies have a hole and money to spend.

[Baldkin]

Just because I am always bored at work I was trying to come up with the "best offer" I would make to Reyes.

 

6 Year $115 Million (With another $15 Million is reasonable ish Incentives)

Well, I hope for their sake they ignore your advice, but I don't think there is any way Reyes gets less than the 7/126 base that Crawford and Werth have gotten the last 2 years, and there's no way in injury prone guy (or anyone?) would sign a deal that would allow them to void it if they spent time on the DL. Thankfully (in my opinion) Reyes is just too rich for the Brewers.

[kramnoj]

Well, I hope for their sake they ignore your advice, but I don't think there is any way Reyes gets less than the 7/126 base that Crawford and Werth have gotten the last 2 years,

 

Which two teams do you think will be competing for Reyes so heavily that he will get that much money?

[RockCoCougars]

Which two teams do you think will be competing for Reyes so heavily that he will get that much money?

 

The Mets and whoever is foolish enough to get into a bidding war with them. I've got a gut feeling that Reyes is going to be listed on the 'Worst Free Agent Signings' lists in 3-4 years.

[TooLiveBrew]

Red Sox could definitely be in on Reyes, that would really be all it takes. Philly, too.

[endaround]

And the Cardinals if Pujols leaves.

[nate82]

Red Sox could definitely be in on Reyes, that would really be all it takes. Philly, too.

I get Philly but the Red Sox? Have they soured on Iglesias that much to go after Reyes? I know Iglesias isn't going to bring all that much offense to the table for the Red Sox but his defense is probably better than Reyes. Will the Red Sox really go after Reyes after signing Crawford last year? I am not so sure that the Red Sox are really a fit for Reyes. While Philly maybe a fit I am thinking that they are not going to give Reyes a contract like what Werth got when they didn't give Werth that contract plus Rollins is going to be cheaper than Reyes and I believe Philly will just resign Rollins instead for almost half the price of Reyes.

I fully expect the Cardinals to resign Furcal even if Pujols leaves. I just have this feeling that the Cardinals want to keep Furcal as he is going to be rather cheap for them to resign. I am also not so sure on how much the Mets are going to spend on Reyes. I believe they are not going to come anywhere close to what Reyes is asking for. I believe the last rumor of the Mets offering a contract to Reyes was a 5-year deal around $20m annually at least that is what I remember I could be wrong on that. The market for Reyes could be surprisingly small and he may have to take a smaller deal.

[TooLiveBrew]

Will the Red Sox really go after Reyes after signing Crawford last year?

 

That was my main question as well. I still think they'd be used as leverage, at the very least.

[RockCoCougars]

Will the Red Sox really go after Reyes after signing Crawford last year?

 

Well, they've made the worst signings the past two off-seasons, so why not go for the threepeat? On the other hand, Boy Wonder is gone, so maybe not.

[Baldkin]

The Red Sox print money, it doesn't matter to them if they make a bad 20m a yr signing. Signing Reyes will allow them to trade Iglesias for pitching. Heck, they'll be getting Lackey's money insurance paid next year anyway.

[GamelToe]

http://www.mlbtraderumors...rco-scutaros-option.html

 

Well, crap. Brewers won't sign Reyes, and I liked Scutaro.

[PrinceEatMeat]

http://www.mlbtraderumors...rco-scutaros-option.html

 

Well, crap. Brewers won't sign Reyes, and I liked Scutaro.

Barmes it is then.

[reillymcshane]

http://www.mlbtraderumors...rco-scutaros-option.html

 

Well, crap. Brewers won't sign Reyes, and I liked Scutaro.

Barmes it is then.

Barmes is by no means a great player. But I feel that he is a solid one. Average to bit below average with the bat, above average in the field. Make for an average SS. I'm very happy with that after last season's results (which I think were terrible). Some of his success as a batter (23 HR a few years ago) is probably helped by Coors field. But last year he had a .698 OPS in Houston - and with a terrible lineup around him. That's pretty average. He's also had some injuries, so you probably need to make sure you have a good back up (Hairston would be my choice).

 

I tout Barmes because I think he's a realistic option. I just don't see spending $15 million or more on Reyes (and the years). And we'd lose our #1 draft pick. It will only take one team to go insane and offer him far too much for our means. I like Scutoro, but it looks like Boston will keep him.

 

For Barmes, a two-year deal at about $4 million a year seems fair. Maybe put a 3rd year option in there. But I say get it done early, while other teams in need of a SS (Cardinals, SF, Braves, Dodgers, Houston, Twins, Reds, Phil., etc.) are fighting over Reyes and Rollins. Also, Barmes is not going to cost a draft pick, so that's not a concern. We can offer a good team with a chance to win next year. With our lack of quality SS prospects, Barmes doesn't have to worry that a young kid will take over his job.

 

I think it's a good fit.

[madtowndrunkard]

If Barmes is signed then we better be looking at an elite 1st basemen to replace prince. Barmes is a #8 hitter. Barmes better be a last ditch effort to improve defense. Meaning if we struck out on every other available option to improve the SS position...then fine settle on a Barmes.

 

At the same time Reyes is a BAD idea. No way Melvin gambles that kind of $ on an injury prone player. Just look at Melvin's history. He does not sign Reyes type players. I could see him going after guys like Furcal (is he's a FA? ) or making a trade for a guy coming off a bad season w/ good career numbers. Reyes is going to be over paid...and his history shows he cannot handle the riggors of a full major league season. As he gets older that will become more of a problem.

 

Melvin will hit the trade market for a SS. I have no idea who he will use as trade bate. Melvin does not commit long term $ to players like Reyes...it will not happen. My $ is on Melvin signing depth type players to improve the bench..and he'll pray that McGehee can bounce back. Then he'll go after a 1 year deal on an aging 1st basemen w/ pop. He'll rebuild our bullpen the same way by trying to keep Hawkins and Saito. I'm hoping he goes after one of the elite RP's on the market. After seeing what a K-Rod type set up guy can do for our team, I think Melvin will be more interested in signing a stud set up guy....and there are plenty of them on the market.