Brewers have serious interest in Jose Reyes?

[paul253]

I'd be fine offering Reyes 5 or 6 years. He's only 27 and yes, he's been unhealthy, but he's still one of the best shortstops in of baseball. He won the batting title last season. He'd also bat lead off and allow for better use of Hart and Weeks' power by not having one of them hitting first. And later on in his career he could always be moved to third or second to save some wear and tear on his body. If we signed him to a $100 million dollar deal, I'd like to see the Brewers try to trade Marcum for a young pitcher or Hart for a young outfielder. I'd also still like to see JHJ signed as a backup/utility guy even if Reyes is signed.

[GAME05]

i understand you have to overpay to get a good FA, but $20M per makes me choke a little bit. even these days, for that kind of money, you can get a player who has a lot more certenties of health and ability that Reyes has.

[Dollarbill13]

As much as I would like Reyes, I don't think the Brewers can afford to tie up that much money for that long in someone who hasn't been able to stay healthy. I think 5/85 would be my limit and I think they'd have to seriously consider trading Hart/Wolf. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that I think Greinke should be locked up.

I agree 100% with locking Greinke up, especially that he might come at a little bit of a bargain coming off a down season. If you'd go 5/85, might as well go 6/90, right?

[Raw Biz]

As much as I would like Reyes, I don't think the Brewers can afford to tie up that much money for that long in someone who hasn't been able to stay healthy. I think 5/85 would be my limit and I think they'd have to seriously consider trading Hart/Wolf. And this isn't even taking into account the fact that I think Greinke should be locked up.

I agree 100% with locking Greinke up, especially that he might come at a little bit of a bargain coming off a down season. If you'd go 5/85, might as well go 6/90, right?

I would go 6/90 if I had an idea of how much Greinke wanted (I'd offer like 4/60). Then I'd flip Hart and Wolf for cheap, young corner OF/1B (put Gamel at 1B/RF depending who you get) and a young pitcher. Ideally Hart to Braves for Beachy/Minor but probably wouldn't happen. Obviously all of this is easier said than done.

[PrinceFielderx1]

I'd go 5/90 million for Reyes probably max out at 5/100. Try to defer some salary. If Reyes wants more years, then include a 6th year vesting option based on 1200 plate appearances in years 4-5 of the contract.

[TheCrew]

Per rotoworld a 2nd mystery team has made an offer to Reyes - speculated to be the Giants or Brewers.

[jmeks23]

I was going to respond to a comment that said Greinke was saying something PR based and not speaking his true mind.............but i'll stick to the topic because those who know of the true Zack Greinke would never suggest something like that.

Are you Zack Greinke's best friend, or close relative? Perhaps his agent?

Regardless, if your comment was directed at me, I wasn't saying it was PR based. Nothing Greinke does is PR based, that's why in January at the On Deck he said he was rooting for the Steelers and not the Packers. I was just saying he's a smart guy and he's not going to rule out the Nationals or anybody for that matter because someone will pay him big bucks, if that's what he's looking for. We're still not so sure that's the case with him.

 

[FoxyFoxes]

I think the exact opposite. I think regardless of $ he would tell it like it is and say he wouldnt want to play for a crap team. (Not saying Washington is a crap team but you get the point.)

[jmeks23]

Then I'm pretty sure he would have called the Royals a crap team for every single year he played with them.

[Dollarbill13]

Anyone find it strange how little talk there has been about Reyes in the last couple days?

[MNBrew]

...and about Rollins pretty much all along, too.

 

I like that we knew the Brewers were investigating all the noteworthy FA SS's but that their workings beyond those initial discussions have been kept very close to the vest. Why? It's mainly because it was a stretch like this last year during which the Marcum trade came out of nowhere.

 

I'm guessing Melvin's still trying hard to get his Plan A to work out, whatever that may be. The lack of media leakage doesn't usually give any true indication of what the Brewers are up to, which I think is good b/c it doesn't tip Melvin's hand. While I wouldn't be surprised if Betancourt still ended up in MIL again in '12, I'm inclined to believe that he's Melvin's fallback plan and would only be back here if Melvin's Plan A (and maybe Plan B) didn't work out.

[RightFieldCoder]

I think Barmes was Plan B.

[Invader3K]

Melvin and the Brewers have been much more tight lipped in a recent years. I think Melvin was frustrated by how long the Sabathia "negotiations" played out after the '08 season, and they realized leaking out contract offers didn't really do them any good.

[endaround]

The winter meeting are two weeks away, this is normal.

[JohnBriggs12]

Melvin and the Brewers have been much more tight lipped in a recent years. I think Melvin was frustrated by how long the Sabathia "negotiations" played out after the '08 season, and they realized leaking out contract offers didn't really do them any good.

The "leaking" of contract offers is a PR ploy (see Marlins). I honestly think the Brewers are holding out as long as possible in the event Fielder doesn't get nearly what his agent has been looking for and we've seen no rumors of any offers for him to this point.. I think they've got a deal on the table for either Reyes or Rollins that's contingent on Fielder signing elsewhere and that one of those two is interested enough not to jump elsewhere just yet. Betancourt would be brought back as low cost guy if somehow Fielder's price comes down to their range.

[Warning Track Power]

I think Barmes was Plan B.

I think Rollins always has been Plan B.

 

Prince is Plan A and we all assume that isn't going to happen. Reyes, as much as I hope he is Plan B, is likely out of the Brewers price range as well. If the Brewers offered Rollins 4 years at say $48 million, they could theoretically get 80% of Reyes at half the cost. Rollins is the guy I believe the Brewers are targeting.

 

 

[BrandonBurns]

I think Barmes was Plan B.

I think Rollins always has been Plan B.

 

Prince is Plan A and we all assume that isn't going to happen. Reyes, as much as I hope he is Plan B, is likely out of the Brewers price range as well. If the Brewers offered Rollins 4 years at say $48 million, they could theoretically get 80% of Reyes at half the cost. Rollins is the guy I believe the Brewers are targeting.

 

I don't doubt that Rollins is a viable target, I just wonder how we get him away from Philly. I don't believe they have a superstar prospect to take over there do they? I just see them overpaying to keep Rollins- hope I'm wrong...

[Hate those Rodents]

If it took only 4/48 for Rollins, Doug would have done that yesterday. Heck, he'd probably give Rollins his desired fifth year at 5/60 if that is all it took.

[endaround]

No way do you sign Rollins for 4 years.

[Hate those Rodents]

Rollins will get four years and if it averages twelve million per year, its a team friendly deal.

[endaround]

How would that be team friendly? Rollins is now 33. He likely has two good seasons, one OK season and the 4th year he likely shouldn't be a full time player.

[Hate those Rodents]

I think he has three good seasons and one ok season. I'll take that for 4/48.

[MNBrew]

I think he has three good seasons and one ok season. I'll take that for 4/48.

And I'd have NO issue at all w/ a performance-based vesting option for the 5th year (barring a Sheets-like-timed injury late in the 4th year that made the 5th year impossible). That'd mean after 4 years he's still be producing at a level you'd gladly want around the 5th year.

[Invader3K]

The guy who tweeted the rumor about Reyes the other day actually responded to me this morning:

 

Apparently Jim Gantner and it was through a friend who knows him. Yea need a new source for sure!

[brettac1]

No way should they pay Rollins that. The guy has had two awful seasons out of the last three and he's getting old.