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2011-09-26 Pirates (Morton) at Brewers (Marcum) - [Brewers lose, 9-8, still 1 up on D-Backs]


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just to pile on RR, I completely dont understand his bunting logic at all. he sacrifices in the first, but refuses to the bunt the runner over in the ninth when the brewers are down one, no outs, guy on second. I dont think i would bunt in any situation other then down one in the ninth. RR bunts in just about situation, then refuses to bunt when i can finally get on board with idea. he is really frustrating. I miss macha so much.
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We can thank the Dodgers who just pulled it off. Now we still can clinch homefield by winning our last two.

 

I think Gibson just lost my Manager of the Year vote. A sac bunt with 1 on and 1 out in the 9th, down by 2? Seriously?

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This was Roenicke's worst game of the season managing that I've seen. Where is the urgency to win? He started the game like it didn't matter and then somewhere toward the end decided that maybe it did kind of matter.

 

You can't do these things if you want to win an important September game:

1.Rest Braun

2. Start Kotsay batting 3rd

2.Pull Weeks

3. Pitch De La Cruz

4. Pinch hit McGehee

Makes me wonder how bad he's going to be in the playoffs.
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We can thank the Dodgers who just pulled it off. Now we still can clinch homefield by winning our last two.

 

I think Gibson just lost my Manager of the Year vote. A sac bunt with 1 on and 1 out in the 9th, down by 2? Seriously?

100% not a sac, he was bunting for a hit and failed miserably
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I get that it was a frustrating loss but the players blew this game not RR. Weeks, Hart, and Yuni all failed to get in a guy from 3rd with less than two outs; obviously Casey & Kottaras didn't come through in the 9th, Morgan misplayed the winning run pretty badly, Lucroy can't hit off of a tee right now, and Marcum pitched like dog poop. A lot of blame to go around tonight.

 

The players blew the chance to go up 2 with 2 to play

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Marcum gives up 7 runs in in 4 2/3 and everyone is complaining about everything else.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Offense scored 8 runs. However, those were incredibly frustrating at bats by McGehe and Betancourt at the end of the game.

The other thing I can't help but forget is the blown call by the ump on the D'Arnaud stolen base. He was clearly out number 3 on that play, I don't know what the ump was looking at. Then he goes on to score and the Brewers lose by 1 run. Annoying.
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I get that it was a frustrating loss but the players blew this game not RR. Weeks, Hart, and Yuni all failed to get in a guy from 3rd with less than two outs; obviously Casey & Kottaras didn't come through in the 9th, Morgan misplayed the winning run pretty badly, Lucroy can't hit off of a tee right now, and Marcum pitched like dog poop. A lot of blame to go around tonight.

 

The players blew the chance to go up 2 with 2 to play

It is a lot more difficult to make good contact off of Joel Hanrahan than it is to pencil Ryan Braun in the starting lineup, or only use pitchers on your playoff roster in a must win game
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I get that it was a frustrating loss but the players blew this game not RR. Weeks, Hart, and Yuni all failed to get in a guy from 3rd with less than two outs; obviously Casey & Kottaras didn't come through in the 9th, Morgan misplayed the winning run pretty badly, Lucroy can't hit off of a tee right now, and Marcum pitched like dog poop. A lot of blame to go around tonight.

 

The players blew the chance to go up 2 with 2 to play

I can see where Roenicke made some questionable choices, but fondy's right: The Pirates' pitchers kept trying to give the game away and Brewer after Brewer failed in countless golden chances to put the Brewers ahead.

 

Again, thankfully, it's a push all around. Gotta forget today and go get 'em tomorrow.

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I get that it was a frustrating loss but the players blew this game not RR. Weeks, Hart, and Yuni all failed to get in a guy from 3rd with less than two outs; obviously Casey & Kottaras didn't come through in the 9th, Morgan misplayed the winning run pretty badly, Lucroy can't hit off of a tee right now, and Marcum pitched like dog poop. A lot of blame to go around tonight.

 

The players blew the chance to go up 2 with 2 to play

It is a lot more difficult to make good contact off of Joel Hanrahan than it is to pencil Ryan Braun in the starting lineup, or only use pitchers on your playoff roster in a must win game
Yes. Apparently Braun needed some time off because he'd hit too many home runs lately.
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I think you guys need to take a deep breath on RRR tonight. If he thinks Braun could use a blow to be ready for the playoffs considering his injuries this year the he should rest him. Yeah, Kotsay wouldn't be my pick for 3rd, but Kotsay has been solid since he subbed for Braun when he was hurt. Weeks is still injured, they are going to be careful with him. With de la Cruz, he got out of a jam in the fifth and only gave up one run. As for McGehee, it was down to him and George. They were both going to hit...I'm not sure there is a huge difference outside of George being a lefty.

 

I have plenty of issues with RR...bunting in the first, etc...but this one was on a crap start by Marcum, a bleed by the pen including Saito and missing a few key hits...6 more inches by Lucroy and they win it. Go get em tomorrow.

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Marcum had an extremely unlucky inning early in the game... think it was the 2nd inning but I can't remember. While he was definitely not in top form, the hits were not thunderous tonight from the Pirates. A lot of hits falling in that weren't hit all that hard.
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Braun was one of the first guys off the bench and he came up with a huge hit, so I don't know how you can defend RR for resting Braun when he was clearly ready to use him right away. Either rest him or start him, don't bring him in in the 6th inning. The guy is the likely MVP of the league, we need him in the lineup in must win games if possible. Maybe Braun is really suffering and we don't know about it, but it's not apparent in his swing.

 

Kotsay has had some good at bats this year, but I'm not sure how anyone can defend him batting 2nd or 3rd in this lineup.

 

Maybe more of the blame should go on Marcum and not on RR, but it frustrates me to know that there is even a possibility that tonight's game wasn't a priority game in his mind.

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Just got back from the PHX/LAX game..we were given a gift by the Dbacks tonight by them bunting to the pitcher in the 9th. I had my phone glued to my ear the entire game listening to Uecker while trying to root for the Dodgers tonight(its not as bad as rooting for the Cubs). What was kind of sad was the Dbacks are in a race for the 2nd seed and they just clinched the NL West and the stadium was quiet for the most part except for a couple catches by the Dbacks. Contrast that with the Uecker feed I was listening to, and I could hardly hear him at times. The attendance in AZ was around 29k, while the Brewers was around 42k. I just hope we can rebound tomorrow and lock this up.
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That Betancourt at-bat had to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen this season. How do you start him tomorrow after seeing something like that? Because I'm sure he'll be starting again.
RRR sounded pretty frustrated with Yuni in his post-game press conference.

 

I think I'd have left Counsell in rather than pinch running with Gomez. Craig has more than adequate speed along with a brain that moves faster than his legs. Carlos' legs move faster than his brain. I know that the out at the plate was on RRR rather than Carlos, but I'd have still gone with the safer bet.

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I see lots of posts where people are trying to blame someone, or 'the pitching' or 'the offense'........well, there's PLENTY of blame to go around here.

 

1st inning, 1 run in bases loaded, nobody out, offense gets nothing more across.

 

Marcum gave up about a dozen bloops, bleeders and seeing eye singles.

 

Roenicke managed this like a spring training game.

 

and I can't even count the number of at bats with less than 2 outs with men on 3rd that got nothing across.

 

Yeah, they scored 8 runs, but the offense still left scoring opportunities out there.

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I was at the game and stayed for all 7 hours, or whatever it was. On the way out, I think I heard people blaming just about everyone. For me, it's hard to get past RRR using De La Cruz, for multiple innings, no less.

 

I also wondered, when they only brought up a few hitters in September, if there would be a game where needed another bat. Gamel would have looked nice in the late innings.

 

Finally, I still can't believe our bench "power bat" is Kottaras.

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