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1.) Does Tony die? No

2.) Does Phil die? Yes

3.) Does Tony take down Phil with help from the FBI? No

4.) Does someone from Tony's crew betray him? No

5.) Does someone from Tony's family (wife+kids) die? No

6.) Does Tony get relocated via FBI? No

7.) Does Tony remain a boss in NJ? Yes

8.) Does someone from Tony's family betray him (wife, sister, kids)? No

9.) Does Tony end up arrested? Yes

10.) Does Paulie die? No

 

I stink at predicting what David Chase is up to though. The only ones I feel strong about are 1 and 3.

 

Robert

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Oh, man am I PUMPED!. The only reason I think Paulie will die Is Bobby did and Sil might be. That said, if they are going to make a movie, It behooves Chase to keep Paulie and Sil alive.

 

Get ready boys and girls!

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1.) Does Tony die? Yes

2.) Does Phil die? No

3.) Does Tony take down Phil with help from the FBI? No

4.) Does someone from Tony's crew betray him? Yes

5.) Does someone from Tony's family (wife+kids) die? No

6.) Does Tony get relocated via FBI? No

7.) Does Tony remain a boss in NJ? No

8.) Does someone from Tony's family betray him (wife, sister, kids)? No

9.) Does Tony end up arrested? No

10.) Does Paulie die? Yes

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6 minutes left and I catch myself holding my breath all the time. Nothing earth shattering is going to happen to Tony.

 

edit. nm, this diner scene doesn't look promising.

 

double edit. Well they sure left alot hanging out there, wow.

"You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation."

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"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."

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I can't complain. I think the ending was excellent. It's like you got a glimpse into these people's lives for 6 seasons, and then you don't anymore. Like if you knew someone, and then you just lost touch with them. I think it's kind of cool.

 

Every relationship you have in real life isn't resolved with the death of one of the involved parties.

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I'm not really sure yet how I feel about the ending. I've probably got to let it sink in and think about it some more. Strange ending though, to be sure.

 

Like Brett said, things in life usually don't end with tied up loose ends and definitive conclusions. So, in that regard, I guess I kind of like and respect the way they ended the series.

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Now that it's sunk in, I like the ending too. Unresolved, but that's how Tony Soprano lives his life.

 

FWIW, I thought the rest of the episode was solid. Tony and Janice making everything about them, the lingering paranoia, the irresolution of Tony and Junior's meeting, Paulie's superstition and a new nemesis, the hit on Phil, the FBI's reaction, and the fact that the law is still bearing down on Tony.

 

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This is from Wikipedia, so while a good theory, I dont know if I buy it, but I kind of do...

 

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There is then a minute or so of a black screen before the credits, so that what happened is not actually established. Since the show is from Tony's point of view, when his point of view ended (gun shot to the back of the head), the show ended. One could say the last thing he saw was his daughter walking through the door.

 

The reason I could buy into this, is that Meadow opens to door and she looks startled for that brief second before the screen went to black.

 

I liked the build up to the ending. I wasn't sure what was going to happen, especially with all the shots of various people that were looking at him. It seemed like everything was alright. Then the sudden ending. If Tony did get shot, that they would have showed it. I know that's what they were going for, but it bothers the hell outta me not knowing for sure.

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the irresolution of Tony and Junior's meeting,

 

And the irresolution of practically everything else. The Kevin Finnerty stuff continues to make zero sense, those mistakes Bobby made in his first hit earlier in the season that they were so sure to point out to us? Totally forgotten.

 

They let the second to last episode be considerably better than the finale, and that's a huge problem in my eyes.

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And the irresolution of practically everything else. The Kevin Finnerty stuff continues to make zero sense, those mistakes Bobby made in his first hit earlier in the season that they were so sure to point out to us? Totally forgotten.

 

I don't know. I kind of like when everything that happens doesn't fit neatly together, or happen solely to drive the plot forward. I also like misdirection. It keeps things interesting.

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I liked the build up to the ending. I wasn't sure what was going to happen, especially with all the shots of various people that were looking at him.

 

After about 10 seconds of this, though, it was obvious that nothing was going to happen and that all those cutaways were being done to falsely create a sense of excitement that something was about to happen.

 

If you have watched The Sopranos all the way through, how could you not expect loose ends? It's always what's happened, it's a trademark.

 

They let the second to last episode be considerably better than the finale, and that's a huge problem in my eyes.

 

Really, the entire final season, especially part one, was lame (outside of the great Walnuts episode with the cancer/mother stuff).

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The Kevin Finnerty stuff continues to make zero sense

 

I think the Finnerty thing was a stand-alone element. It was a metaphor for Tony's loss of identity, or something else. It didn't really even occur to me that they'd bring it back up... it was like any other of the extended dream sequences they had.

 

those mistakes Bobby made in his first hit earlier in the season that they were so sure to point out to us? Totally forgotten.

 

Maybe not... to me, those mistakes just pointed to the "innocent" nature of Bobby's character, which were much more prevalent earlier in the series. It made his death all the more horrible.

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That ending made me laugh, because it is the same type of stuff the show has been doing all along, and my wife spent so much time reading all of these different scenarios from bloggers and the like trying to get a feel for what may happen (BTW, NDOG, she also felt your idea was by far the most insightful). They build up so much drama to make it seem like something is going to happen, and then nothing does.

 

It's funny reading these theories after the fact because there were so many theories leading up to the ending trying to pull all of these tidbits from the series together to try and make an ending that made sense. From ducks to bears dream sequences and the coma to the Russian guy in the woods, nothing spectacular happened.

 

It turns out the series ended exactly how it was written and produced throughout it's run for the reasons I explained above, but without any historical context that so many people tried to predict and without any big, eye-popping ending that gave anyone any sort of closure.

 

You can read into the ending all you want, but again, they built up a lot of drama and nothing happened, except that Tony was with his family at the end, on top, just like how the series started. It doesn't matter whether or not you think Tony got whacked, the show still ended with him on top.

 

I thought it was pretty cool having that FBI agent show his excitment towards Tony when he learned Phil got popped. Plus, he slept with another agent to get information for Tony, or at least that is how they made it seem? That was the highlight of the show for me.

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There is then a minute or so of a black screen before the credits, so that what happened is not actually established. Since the show is from Tony's point of view, when his point of view ended (gun shot to the back of the head), the show ended. One could say the last thing he saw was his daughter walking through the door.

 

I could buy this.

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I don't know why someone would definitively say the show is from Tony's point of view, so the black screen meant death. Maybe the black screen did mean death, but I don't think the show is shown through Tony's eyes.

 

I didn't like the ending, but I'm not surprised.

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I thought it was pretty cool having that FBI agent show his excitment towards Tony when he learned Phil got popped. Plus, he slept with another agent to get information for Tony, or at least that is how they made it seem? That was the highlight of the show for me.\

 

Sadly colby, this was the highlight of the show for me too.

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No matter how this thing ended, people were going to be angry because it didn't wrap up the way they wanted it to.

 

Chase boldly gave us the gift of speculating what happened. Folks will talk about what they think happened, but no one will know for sure. I guess this is the way to give everyone the ending they want. I liked it, and was entertained.

 

The show began without a true start... It ended without a true finish. We got a glimpse into their lives, and now we don't get to see anymore. Yeah, this leaves the door open for a movie or something, but I don't think that'll happen. This is the end.

 

I agree with pretty much everything that brettac1 said.

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