CM Punk; WWE Has Me Hooked Again (2011 Official Pro Wrestling Thread)

[PrinceEatMeat]

Nash wants his hair gray, and likes it that way. He pleaded not to dye it, but Vince made him. TNA wanted him to dye as well, but he just flat out refused and wouldn't do it. I'm sure he'll get it professionally dyed now that he's gonna be on TV more. Probably was a last minute dye job.

[brettac1]

I am just watching Raw now for the first time in a few weeks... This is pretty awful. Typical WWE. Hilarious to hear most of the crowd boo the mention of Punk vs. Nash, and then the booking of it.

[Crew2323]

Perhaps they realized that, and that's why at the end of the show they said it'd be Punk vs. HHH. It's awkward to even watch Nash walk to the ring. Can't imagine what he'd look like wrestling.

[thablingster]

Perhaps they realized that, and that's why at the end of the show they said it'd be Punk vs. HHH. It's awkward to even watch Nash walk to the ring. Can't imagine what he'd look like wrestling.

Probably like Great Khali, except slightly more agile and charismatic.

 

Thoughts on the RAW/SmackDown supershow concept? I kind of liked having two separate shows which meant I could ignore SmackDown completely. I may still do so, but if nothing else it does give a few more options for matches.

[brettac1]

Punk vs Trips makes a little more sense, but it's still not a very good match. And if they are booking based on the crowd reaction (which is quite possible), they are really in trouble.

[patrickgpe]

don' t think it was due to crowd reaction

 

company officials did plan for Nash to wrestle at Night of Champions, however those plans were scrapped after Nash’s recent visit to Pittsburgh for his physicals. While details are still sketchy, something about what the doctors observed made WWE decide against having him work a full match, even with a seasoned performer like Punk, who could take the majority of the bumps

 

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[PrinceEatMeat]

Like I said before, Nash will end up wrestling Punk at HIAC. Makes a lot more sense.

[radman12484]

Anyone else see that the WWE Channel/Network is coming in 2012?

[PrinceEatMeat]

Yep, should be pretty good. Need to see some more details on it first though.

[brettac1]

Watching Nash try doing the scripted promos they do nowadays is pretty painful. He's not a good actor.

[radman12484]

Watching Nash try doing the scripted promos they do nowadays is pretty painful. He's not a good actor.

Yeah it's pretty awful.

[brettac1]

Why not let him do it off the top of his head? He was always pretty good, sometimes great.

[jerichoholicninja]

I thought I read that Nash and Punk were basically winging it. That would seem to me why he looks like he never knows what to say and repeats the same thing over and over.

[TracyThom]

Sadly, the WWE has lost all of the momentum it had when CM Punk first cut his "shoot" promo. Who sent the text? I don't care. Like I thought, HHH has interjected himself into the limelight and killed the angle.

[Raw Biz]

Well, apparently Nash has been released. Nash posted on his twitter that he passed his physical but couldn't come to terms financially. So they go from ruining a great Cena/Punk feud, to setting up a terrible Nash/Punk feud, to a mediocre HHH/Punk feud. If this isn't storyline, WWE really dropped the ball by not thinking this thing through fully. If there was any indication Nash wasn't going to be there long-term, they should've kept the Cena/Punk thing going for another couple months.

[jerichoholicninja]

It is storyline.

 

Honestly, I'm really enjoying this. Punk is doing a great job of toeing the line between "real" and "fake". I really think this will ultimately lead to Vince being brought back because HHH is too focused on Punk and let's everything else come apart.

[BrewCrewForever]

Punk is still hitting it out of the park, they better not royally screw it up and have Punk lose to HHH. Punk needs that win, HHH does not.

[Raw Biz]

Punk is still hitting it out of the park, they better not royally screw it up and have Punk lose to HHH. Punk needs that win, HHH does not.

But then HHH steps down as COO, which again, would be getting rid of a good angle prematurely. Although now that HHH is wrestling (he said when he took over that he wouldn't get involved in matches), I guess it would be pointless to keep him in that capacity. Overall, Creative has definitely dropped the ball since MITB/SummerSlam. They probably think they are doing Punk a favor by using him against "legends" like Nash/HHH but now he's just playing third fiddle. I could eventually see a Nash/HHH feud which would just be awful.

[jerichoholicninja]

I think/hope the HHH/Nash heat is all part of a work to get at Punk. I want Nash to come down and cost Punk the match letting HHH and Nash to run the company...into the ground. And Vince swoops in to save the day.

[PrinceEatMeat]

This has the potential to be a huge, long-running angle. I could also see Vince getting involved in the future. I like the idea of HHH and Nash teaming up and running the show, and then Vince coming back and combating them with his own posse led by Punk. That would be pretty cool. I read that Nash is gone because he has to film a movie though and can't be involved in WWE, so his involvement might not come as quickly as some think. Could be a couple months down the road now. Until then they could have someone else return and cost Punk the match at NOC. We'll see what goes down.

[TracyThom]

http://video.foxbusiness....triple-h-talks-business/

 

So far, it looks like HHH is making the correction decisions in his role as Director of Talent Development. In the clip above, he talks about WWE actively scouting for new talent, which is something I think they should have been doing a lot more of years ago. Both Brock Lesnar and Shelton Benjamin were scouted by the WWE, and they turned out just fine. Not sure why they went away from it.

 

It sounds like they are going to be scouting wrestlers from other promotions, instead of waiting for the wrestlers to come to them. Watch out Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate USA. Sign your top guys to contracts, or they may get snatched away.

[radman12484]

http://video.foxbusiness....triple-h-talks-business/

 

So far, it looks like HHH is making the correction decisions in his role as Director of Talent Development. In the clip above, he talks about WWE actively scouting for new talent, which is something I think they should have been doing a lot more of years ago. Both Brock Lesnar and Shelton Benjamin were scouted by the WWE, and they turned out just fine. Not sure why they went away from it.

 

It sounds like they are going to be scouting wrestlers from other promotions, instead of waiting for the wrestlers to come to them. Watch out Ring of Honor and Dragon Gate USA. Sign your top guys to contracts, or they may get snatched away.

I remember back in the early 2000s when they actually did tryout matches or whatever on Sunday Night Heat or Velocity. Remember seeing local guys like Ken Anderson, Dino Bambino, CM Punk, etc. Before they were even signed with the WWE. Don't get much of that anymore other then seeing them as security guards, when the did the Masterlock challenge, just standing around backstage, etc.

[jerichoholicninja]

Woser. That exchange between Triple H and Punk might have been the best wrestling television I have ever seen. Intense, drifting in and out of kayfabe, passionate, great crowd. Great stuff.

[patrickgpe]

maybe that wasn't as good as his original promo last night, but it still was very good. the best wrestling promo's leave you uncomfortable even though you know its stage. for cm punk to leave character he definitely succeeded in that.

[PrinceEatMeat]

That segment to end Raw was pure gold. Loved every minute of it. The beauty of it is that this feud is just getting started. HHH and Punk are just so good that I want it to go on forever. I just hope they don't do something to screw this angle up.