2011-07-03 Brewers (Greinke) at Twins (Blackburn) - [Brewers lose, 9-7]

[jason21nl]

yes, throw a slider when you just threw a fastball basically by him

[ELCABALLO45]

I wish Greinke didn't suck.

[adambr2]

You really suck right now, Greinke.

 

Seriously, we gave up our best farm pieces to acquire an ace. Not a guy that we could build up 5 runs leads for and see if he could protect them.

[justwinbb]

Hes waaaayyyyy overated. All the happiness I felt with the trade are long gone. This one is getting to the point where kc knew what they were doing and melvin got fleeced.

[markedman5]

Did you see Greinke reaction to his last pitch? Even though it was a called 3rd strike it looked like he wasn't happy at all with the location. He hung the slider and thankfully Thome took it......

[umphrey]

I wonder if anyone would trade us like an average 3rd baseman or short stop for Greinke

[davego]

Does Lucroy need help in calling the game?

[Hammer]

Ok, so more PC. I really cannot wait for Prince to leave via Free Agency. He is a DH and should not be allowed to ruin innings in the field any longer. He SHOULD HAVE BEEN the DH this entire series...

[sdcheezhd]

It's an easy 1-2-3 if Prince catches the ball for the 2d out. But it's still on Greinke since it's an easy 1-2-3 if he gets over to catch the return throw on the next guy.

[jason21nl]

Errors happen, and they happen a lot to our team but the Pitcher can't lose his focus

[umphrey]

If I was Lucroy I would not be happy with that 3rd strike call either after seeing what calls have been made first hand for 5 innings

[justwinbb]

That was a horrible call on Lucroy

[ELCABALLO45]

It is probably time to let Craig go.

[Hammer]

Errors happen, and they happen a lot to our team but the Pitcher can't lose his focus

You are a better person than I then. I'd be pissed if I was Greinke...the defense (especially from Fielder) has been horrible in his starts. I will post some stats later this evening to back that statement up but if you have watched his starts you would understand what I am talking about. It's like the D falls apart when he is on the mound.

[pebadger]

It's a good thing him that Craig Counsell is not a horse.

[Bombers]

Hes waaaayyyyy overated. All the happiness I felt with the trade are long gone. This one is getting to the point where kc knew what they were doing and melvin got fleeced.

Ya we totally got fleeced in this one ... Greinke is horrible. I am to the point where I don't even want to watch the games in which he pitches in.

 

 

[ELCABALLO45]

WEEKS!! Needed that!

[pebadger]

Greinke can be upset all he wants, but only to the extent that he can be professional enough to not let it affect the way he pitches. Anything else is just "woe is me" whining. If things happen and it's not your fault, people will recognize that soon enough on their own. His job is to take care of what he can take care of.

[Bombers]

way to go Rickie!!!!

[jason21nl]

Errors happen, and they happen a lot to our team but the Pitcher can't lose his focus

You are a better person than I then. I'd be pissed if I was Greinke...the defense (especially from Fielder) has been horrible in his starts. I will post some stats later this evening to back that statement up but if you have watched his starts you would understand what I am talking about. It's like the D falls apart when he is on the mound.

Just like players have to pick up their pitcher after he walks a guy then gives up a bomb. Greinke has nobody but himself to blame for grooving fastballs that get hit out of the park. Sure he can get mad at crappy defense but he is a professional and he shouldn't lose his focus. Not to mention Greinke get a ton of run support in his starts.

[Hammer]

Hes waaaayyyyy overated. All the happiness I felt with the trade are long gone. This one is getting to the point where kc knew what they were doing and melvin got fleeced.

Ya we totally got fleeced in this one ... Greinke is horrible. I am to the point where I don't even want to watch the games in which he pitches in.

 

Nah, our defense just flat out sucks in his starts. He is an emotional guy...that was a given when he was traded for...and those emotions seem to be getting the best of him when the defense constantly trips all over themselves. Any average MLB defense would have him in the 4ish at the max ERA. Do I have the stats to back that up? Not yet...but I will when I get a chance.

[ramssuperbowl99]

I hope all the people ragging on Greinke own up to it when the results come later in the season.

Oh, and despite the gloom and doom, we are up 2 and in position to take the series (and a division lead if the Cards lose). Despite a brutal interleague schedule.

[ELCABALLO45]

Errors happen, and they happen a lot to our team but the Pitcher can't lose his focus

You are a better person than I then. I'd be pissed if I was Greinke...the defense (especially from Fielder) has been horrible in his starts. I will post some stats later this evening to back that statement up but if you have watched his starts you would understand what I am talking about. It's like the D falls apart when he is on the mound.

He also gets over 6.5 runs per game in his starts. Everyone knew the Brewers were gonna be bad defensively. Still no excuse to be giving up fat meatball pitches to guys like Rene Tosoni (WHO?)

[Rhett16]

I hope all the people ragging on Greinke own up to it when the results come later in the season.

Oh, and despite the gloom and doom, we are up 2 and in position to take the series (and a division lead if the Cards lose). Despite a brutal interleague schedule.

 

We are in the second half of the season, how much longer are we supposed to wait for these results? It's not like games in September count double in the standings or anything. He needs to get his stuff together already.

[ELCABALLO45]

I hope all the people ragging on Greinke own up to it when the results come later in the season.

Oh, and despite the gloom and doom, we are up 2 and in position to take the series (and a division lead if the Cards lose). Despite a brutal interleague schedule.

For the record I am not "ragging" on Greinke. I am just disappointed in how he has pitched so far. I didn't expect him to be the Cy Young Greinke, but I did not think he would struggle this badly.