2011-06-22 Rays (Price) at Brewers (Marcum) - [Brewers lose, 6-3]

[3Putt]

Last week Bill & Brian made a big deal about Hawkins approaching RR and asking to be the 7th inning guy. What happened?

 

I may be rationalizing but this ends our 20 game in 20 day stretch. Hopefully we'll be refreshed and back to our winning ways by this time next week.

[brewmann04]

i sure hope the crew make some big gains with Albert being out.

[ninja33]

No power on the Bench is a killer ,RR will say he did not want to use his backup catcher since Nieves is no lomger on the Roster.

well, considering he was pinch hitting for the starting catcher...he was going to have to use the backup catcher anyway.

[TheCrew07]

If he looks OK and he says he's OK, it's pretty hard not to let the guy pitch, especially if Dr. Raasch OKs it and you have absolutely nothing in the way of MRI imagery or other objective medical evidence to keep him from pitching. I may have erred on teh side of caution anyway, but it's not tantamount to baseball malpractice to let a guy play if the only reason for keeping him out is because you're scared.

Yo said he could and did pitch with an ACL injury too.

 

Right, but that's not exactly apples to apples there. That was diagnosed on the mound, they didn't have MRIs at that point, or give him a work out. Hardly comparable.

It's much easier to test for an ACL injury on the field than a hip flexor. Either way.. hip flexors usually heal pretty well in 7-10 days, I'm not sure why they'd want to turn a minor injury into an injury that could linger. And this isn't the 2nd time it happened, it's like the 20th time it's happened between all levels of the system since I've been following Brewerfan.

 

Honestly I don't care what the player says, it's the trainer's responsibility to protect the player from himself.

 

 

[Oxy]

Honestly I don't care what the player says, it's the trainer's responsibility to protect the player from himself.

There are certain injuries that are basically impossible to objectively diagnose. If a player has a high pain tolerance and is a good actor, there is literally nothing the training staff can do.

[TheCrew07]

Honestly I don't care what the player says, it's the trainer's responsibility to protect the player from himself.

There are certain injuries that are basically impossible to objectively diagnose. If a player has a high pain tolerance and is a good actor, there is literally nothing the training staff can do.

I do not and will not ever agree with that premise, whatever the athlete tells you should be tempered by knowledge gained through experience.

 

This isn't amatuer training staff, these aren't kids fresh out of college working their way up, this is a professional organization. If you want to form an opinion on the treatment of the injury itself then google hip flexors and see what the recovery time is for a bad strain and reasonably work backwards from that point. We see hip flexors early every season because the kids that get them don't stretch or basically do anything all summer except play video games. A minor hip flexor injury (the overwhelming majority that we see) requires 7-10 days at minimum to be fully healed, significant injuries much longer. It's an injury that simply requires rest, ice, and stretching to overcome, but is extremely easy to re-aggravate.

 

What's the point in 3 innings? Why not just have him focus on rehabilitation skipping 1 start and move on? Obviously if they thought he was completely healthy he wouldn't have been limited to 3 innings in the first place.