2011-06-13 Brewers (Wolf) at Cubs (Dempster) - [Brewers lose, 1-0]

[adambr2]

Kotsay starting - 0 for 4, 3 K's.

 

Nieves still on the team - 0 for 2, GIDP, the usual.

 

Squeeze with the pitcher on a 3-1 count - Fail

 

Overworked Loe again in the 8th - Fail

 

There was no reason for us to lose this game. It took a valiant effort including a horrid lineup, mismanaging and overthinking to get it done. I am so sick of Roenicke.

Its not his fault Nieves is on the roster.

 

Loe pitched well, not his fault Braun cant catch a fly ball.

 

 

You are kidding yourself if you don't think Nieves is still on the roster because of Roenicke.

[trwi7]

"Maybe there was a little hangover from the St. Louis series."

 

- Bill

 

Maybe it was just a lineup that was filled with awful hitters.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Worst-managed game of the year, easily.

Worst-managed game that he didn't get away with it.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

I am still seething.

 

With that freaking AAA lineup, and a base open, in need of a double play, WITH THE CATCHER ON DECK, why in the hell would you pitch to the one legit threat in the lineup?

 

And the suicide squeeze. Jesus. I have a headache.

[adambr2]

Its not his fault Nieves is on the roster.

 

Loe pitched well, not his fault Braun cant catch a fly ball.

Yes it is his fault. He wants a "defense first catcher"

The ball was crushed. Only the wind blowing in kept that in the park. He should not face left handers

 

Still not his fault.

 

 

I don't understand what you are saying. So because Melvin isn't micro-managing RR's bench and overriding him, its not RR's fault that Nieves is still here? Is it Mark A's fault then, since he could override them both?

[Oldcity]

Brother missed the game.

 

Him: So what happened?

 

Me: They got Roenicked.

 

Him: Hmm... Kameron Loe against Carlos Pena?

 

Awesome.

[RedFlash2]

Um guys.....What the heck is going on here? I thought the Brewers were the "hottest team in the NL?" The Iowa Cubs literally gives you a gimme win tonight and you're boys wants to take the night off. Come on now. I want "The Big Fatty" Jim Hendry fired (if not by cannon, at least out of Chicago) and Ricketts can't do that if the Cubs show a glimmer of hope. So come on guys, outside of doing that stupid "Miller Field South" crap (yes calling another team's homefield your team's field name is stupid and juvenile, and I am an embarrassed that Cubs fans do it with Miller Field) take the next three games, please.

 

I want Hendry and Quade fired, and I need your team help to make it happen, dangit.

[WisconsinSportsRule]

I'm still pissed at Roenicke's squeeze call and I was listening on the radio. It makes no damn sense.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Let's look on the bright side folks...if we keep this up, this may drop the Cubs a few slots in the draft!

[ELCABALLO45]

Yes it is his fault. He wants a "defense first catcher"

The ball was crushed. Only the wind blowing in kept that in the park. He should not face left handers

 

Still not his fault.

 

 

I don't understand what you are saying. So because Melvin isn't micro-managing RR's bench and overriding him, its not RR's fault that Nieves is still here? Is it Mark A's fault then, since he could override them both?

Melvin is the GM of the Brewers. If Melvin wanted Nieves gone he would be, its not RR's decision at all. Melvin is in charge of the roster, not RR.

[trwi7]

I'm sorry, I'm blaming Roenicke for keeping Nieves on the roster and Melvin for signing Nieves in the first place.

[TheCrew07]

I just wanted to drop by and say that I hate losing to the cubs more than anyone else in baseball.

[logan82]

I think DPR has at least some input in the roster.

[ELCABALLO45]

I'm sorry, I'm blaming Roenicke for keeping Nieves on the roster and Melvin for signing Nieves in the first place.

Its not RR's decision to keep Nieves on the roster. He has no control over it. He can suggest things, but it doesn't mean its his decision. It's Melvin

[trwi7]

It's not just Melvin's decision. If it was Roenicke wouldn't evaluate players in spring because he would have no say.

[ELCABALLO45]

Ultimately it is just Melvin's decision. That is why he is the GM. Roenicke can give input but the final call is on Melvin

[trwi7]

And I disagree. If Roenicke went to Melvin and said I'd like to bring Kottaras up and DFA Nieves then Melvin would do it. Melvin deserves blame, so does Roenicke.

[ELCABALLO45]

Who said he would do it?

[Schlitz001]

Randy Wolf stats this year with....

 

Wil Nieves - 51.1 innings caught - 2.45 ERA

Jon Lucroy - 17.0 innings caught - 4.24 ERA

G. Kottaras - 16.0 innings caught - 4.50 ERA

 

I understand these are very small sample sizes, but WHAT IF like Dumbo and his magic feather Wil Nieves catching Randy Wolf somehow gives Wolf the ability to pitch a ballgame in which he gives up 2 less earned runs per 9 innings pitched? Does it then justify Nieves being on the roster and catching every 5th game? Every 5th game, where Lucroy would need an off day every 5 games anyway and our next best option is George Kottaras? Every 5th game which amounts to about 2% of the PAs in a week?

 

I'm not saying that I don't hate Nieves as a hitter, but what about the rest of this lineup? To not score a run against Dempster who has been one of the most hittable pitchers in the league this year should fall largely on the shoulders of Nieves?

[brewmann04]

it all good my Bruins have forced a game 7

[adambr2]

Still not his fault.

 

 

I don't understand what you are saying. So because Melvin isn't micro-managing RR's bench and overriding him, its not RR's fault that Nieves is still here? Is it Mark A's fault then, since he could override them both?

Melvin is the GM of the Brewers. If Melvin wanted Nieves gone he would be, its not RR's decision at all. Melvin is in charge of the roster, not RR.

 

 

This is just not true. Managers very commonly have control over the personnel on their bench. Yes, on paper, Melvin managers the roster, but there is no way that Nieves is on this roster if Roenicke doesn't want him.

 

I'd go as far as to say that it wouldn't surprise me if Roenicke hasn't had to plead on Nieves' behalf by now to keep him around.

[RightFieldCoder]

Invader3K wrote:

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Disappointing game considering Wolf pitched well enough for a win.

He has a personal catcher that provides no offense. And even if it was a bad decision, Wolf let Yuni out to dry on the squeeze. I'm not feeling that bad that he didn't pick up the W. I am feeling bad that RRR gave away a W to the Cubs.

[mtrebs]

Um guys.....What the heck is going on here? I thought the Brewers were the "hottest team in the NL?" The Iowa Cubs literally gives you a gimme win tonight and you're boys wants to take the night off.

Unfortunately this is what happens in Brewers-Cubs games. No matter how hot one team is and how awful the other one is playing, the games are up for grabs. Unfortunately the Brewers appear to have a tendency to play to their competition and play better against the +.500 teams and play down to the -.500 teams (except the Pirates).

[brewmann04]

I would think a pitcher should be able to at least bunt there,but it's only one game lets take the next 3

[RobDeer 45]

Ok, lets all calm down a bit.....I waited until today to write this so I could take a minute. It was a bad loss, a game we should have had. At first I was mad at the squeeze play, and maybe I'm still a bit confused. After looking at it more, you have a pitcher up who should be a very solid bunter and the count was 3-1 (to a pitcher mind you) so you know a fastball is coming down the middle. He just blew it. I guess with Rickie coming up next I'm still a bit upset, but again the scenario was perfect to be able to get down a bunt.

 

As for Loe facing a lefty, I don't like it either but we should really blame Braun on that play. I know the wind was nasty but he could have easily caught that ball out there (he didn't play the lefty slice). That run could have been avoided by better D there.

 

As for the lineup, what are you going to do. You can complain about Kotsay but he had a great game the day before. And Casey needs to be moved down but I think that RRR is just holding out as long as he can.