Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-5

[brwrsfan]

And the Brewers select Nick Ramirez. 1b from Cal State Fullerton. Played on team USA collegiate team. Also pitched in college.

[StearnsFTW]

Finally got a hitter. Although he's a pitcher too.

 

Edit: too fast for me brwrsfan.

[tstads20]

Alright gang, first position player is on the board! 1B Nicholas Ramirez

[brwrsfan]

They said he has some power....anyone know anything about him? Yet another college player.

[Raw Biz]

Maybe we just killed 2 birds with 1 stone. Future 1st baseman and closer. First 40/40 guy (40 HR/40 Saves)?

[ListachRides]

This is my least favorite pick so far. #197 on BA's board. Here's the report:

 

Multiple scouts used the phrase "a really tough one" when evaluating Ramirez this spring. He's had a tremendous college career, starring for three seasons as the primary power threat in the heart of Cal State Fullerton's order as well as the team's closer. Some scouts prefer him as a pitcher. He has good feel for a solid four-pitch mix, including an 86-90 fastball, a plus changeup, a solid slider and curveball. But Ramirez wants to be a hitter, and the majority of scouts prefer him as a first baseman. After his monstrous sophomore season, Ramirez struggled to adjust to wood bats last summer with Team USA, causing some scouts to wonder if his lefthanded swing is more tailored to metal bats. He has undeniable strength in his bulky 6-foot-3, 225-pound frame, leading to above-average raw power but average game power. He does not have elite bat speed, and he sometimes exhibits an arm bar in his swing, making him vulnerable on the inner half. He uses his hands well and excels at lacing hard line drives into the left-center gap, and he has a chance to be an average hitter. Most of his home run power is to center-right, and he's gotten better at turning on balls. He's an average defender at first base, with soft hands but limited range. Ramirez could be drafted anywhere from the fourth to the 10th round.

[Nader Raider Tim]

I would love to have another Brooks Kieschnick, here's to hoping.

[Never Outhustled]

Ramirez didn't hit much this year, and hit poorly for Team USA with wood bats. His past production seems to be a product of metal bats. Not an inspiring pick. Seems similar to the Cal 1B they picked several years ago in this round.

[StearnsFTW]

Yeesh.........I don't like that armbar comment. He's probably gonna strike out a lot. Hopefully that can be fixed.

[Hate those Rodents]

Are Nick Delmonico and Alex Dickerson still out there? It'd be nice to get a good "midwest" bat if a good one is still around for our next pick.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

It is a requirement that Brewers pitchers know how to hit.

[ListachRides]

Piliere's comment: "Ramirez didn't bring his power with him to wood, so not sure I buy into him long term. I might have tried him on the mound."

[rwa12]

I think Delmonico would be a nice addition, would like to see us draft him. Should be around the time he should go, no?

[And That]

Baseball America on Nick Ramirez:

Multiple scouts used the phrase "a really tough one" when evaluating

Ramirez this spring. He's had a tremendous college career, starring for

three seasons as the primary power threat in the heart of Cal State

Fullerton's order as well as the team's closer. Some scouts prefer him

as a pitcher. He has good feel for a solid four-pitch mix, including an

86-90 fastball, a plus changeup, a solid slider and curveball. But

Ramirez wants to be a hitter, and the majority of scouts prefer him as a

first baseman. After his monstrous sophomore season, Ramirez struggled

to adjust to wood bats last summer with Team USA, causing some scouts to

wonder if his lefthanded swing is more tailored to metal bats. He has

undeniable strength in his bulky 6-foot-3, 225-pound frame, leading to

above-average raw power but average game power. He does not have elite

bat speed, and he sometimes exhibits an arm bar in his swing, making him

vulnerable on the inner half. He uses his hands well and excels at

lacing hard line drives into the left-center gap, and he has a chance to

be an average hitter. Most of his home run power is to center-right,

and he's gotten better at turning on balls. He's an average defender at

first base, with soft hands but limited range. Ramirez could be drafted

anywhere from the fourth to the 10th round.

[heresrobin]

The Brewers seem to have some sort of comfort level with Fullerton players: Komatsu, Kh. Davis, now Ramirez...

[YoungGeezy]

Brewers GM Doug Melvin confirmed to Olney that it’s possible (though not likely) that top pick Taylor Jungmann could help them this year.

That is from MLBTradeRumors

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/olney-on-nationals-mariners-brewers-as.html

 

Edit: This is a follow up to the post earlier on the subject

[ListachRides]

Not to rekindle some of the earlier debates, but when there's grumbling about low-ceiling college players this pick is where my complaints lie. I don't have any problems with the pitchers we took, but what does Ramirez bring to the system that we don't already have with Gamel, Halton, Morris and Hawn? Especially after taking Morris and Hawn last year. I hope this isn't a trend where we burn a 4th or 5th rounder every year on a college 1b with AAAA written all over him. Sorry for the negativity.

[CheezWizHed]

Nothing against him directly (as I know nothing), but I don't care for the Ramirez pick. I'm all for BPA, but at this point in the draft, there must be several players that are pretty much ranked the same. And if there is something in our system that we are not lacking, its players limited to LF/1B.

 

I would think there would be a SS/3B/2B/C type that would have been rated the same.

 

edit- looks like ListachRides and I where thinking alike...

[jmeks23]

I'm honestly a bit surprised the Brewers took Lopez over Daniel Norris. Norris had mid first round written all over him, and even if he had some issues or something, at 70 that's still a pretty nice deal. Oh well, Lopez seems to be a nice upside pick as well anyways.

[StearnsFTW]

I'm honestly a bit surprised the Brewers took Lopez over Daniel Norris. Norris had mid first round written all over him, and even if he had some issues or something, at 70 that's still a pretty nice deal. Oh well, Lopez seems to be a nice upside pick as well anyways.

Probably not signable at that point. At least not realistically. He's still not gone as far as I can tell.

[xisxisxis]

norris went to jays @74.

[crewcrazy]

Blue Jays popped Norris early today. Can't remember if it was a 2nd or 3rd round pick, though.

[And That]

Jorge Lopez is Puerto Rico's #1 volleyball prospect. Sticking with baseball.

[Nader Raider Tim]

Norris was drafted by the Blue Jays, there are rumors that he is looking for $3.9 million. That would price him out of even the most optimistic of Brewer budgets.

[YoungGeezy]

I'm honestly a bit surprised the Brewers took Lopez over Daniel Norris. Norris had mid first round written all over him, and even if he had some issues or something, at 70 that's still a pretty nice deal. Oh well, Lopez seems to be a nice upside pick as well anyways.

The massive difference in price tag leaves me not surprised at all