Ian Stewart

[Warning Track Power]

Anyone have any interest in Ian Stewart? Seems like he may have totally fallen out of favor with the Rockies given some of the recent quotes made by Jim Tracy. I am not sure where we would play him this season with Fielder and McGehee and I'm not sure if he would it next season given McGehee and likely Mat Gamel. Still he is a decent bat, as evidenced by his 25 and 18 HR seasons, who strikes out a bunch, hits for a lower average but can draw a walk. I don't know much about his D as I don't watch Rockies games enough to make that call. May be an option worth looking at for 2011 given Fielder's departure and some people's unhappiness with McGehee.

[TooLiveBrew]

Pretty sure I would trade McGehee for Stewart. Not like 100%, but maybe 95%.

[RockCoCougars]

No way would I even consider trading McGehee for Stewart. He would be an upgrade defensively (as would 90% of MLB 3rd basemen), but he's been pretty brutal at the plate. Strikes out all the time and has a career BA 50 points less then McGehee (I know a lot of people disregard those stats somewhat, but still- no decent hitter has a career .237 playing home games in Coors with all the open spaces in that outfield). Another huge factor would be that Stewart makes almost $2 million more than McGehee this season, so the odds are decent that even with a brutal season he will make more in 2012 arby than McGehee. Pass.

[nate82]

Pretty sure I would trade McGehee for Stewart. Not like 100%, but maybe 95%.

Is that suppose to be in blue?

[JohnBriggs12]

Pretty sure I would trade McGehee for Stewart. Not like 100%, but maybe 95%.

Is that suppose to be in blue?

This is a guy who's mad he's been sent down after being 3 for 47 this season? I'd rather have Bill Hall.

[TooLiveBrew]

Is that suppose to be in blue?

 

No. I should say that if Stewart is the defensive upgrade I'm assuming he would be over McGehee, I would feel good about swapping them. I haven't really seen enough of Stewart's play in the field to know for sure.

 

There realistically isn't anyone that thinks Stewart is as bad as his first 52 PAs this season, right?

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

Casey is really starting to frustrate me. A sub .750 OPS at a premium offensive position, with crappy defense will simply not get it done, even if he is making peanuts. that said, i don't have a better alternative given our budget

[tyguy20204]

McGehee won more games above replacement last year alone than Stewart has for his entire career. Stewart may have some promise but McGehee is only two years older and has already produced. He's also cheaper, as has been mentioned. I'll stick with him, given the choice.

To TwinBrewer's point: 3B really isn't a premium offensive position. McGehee is #10 on the Fangraphs major-league WAR leader board for 3B, and like you said, he hasn't exactly lit the world on fire. Although it should be noted that they have his fielding down as a positive so far this year, which definitely won't hold, as he's sub-par in that area.

McGehee at the worst is an average 3B, and he's cheap. He's fine.

[nate82]

No. I should say that if Stewart is the defensive upgrade I'm assuming he would be over McGehee, I would feel good about swapping them. I haven't really seen enough of Stewart's play in the field to know for sure.

 

There realistically isn't anyone that thinks Stewart is as bad as his first 52 PAs this season, right?

Defensive upgrade maybe but at best you are getting the same offensive production. Stewart's best year was 2008 and he hasn't repeated that year or have come close to that year again. If you use UZR/150 McGehee and Stewart are about the same defensively. So there may not be an upgrade defensively at 3B.

[RockCoCougars]

McGehee has more total bases since this thread was started yesterday than Stewart has had all season. The only intrigue that Stewart would have to some here would be that I'm sure that BA had him high in the 'Top 100'. So was Brandon Wood. What a crappy left side of the infield that would be.

[TooLiveBrew]

Defensive upgrade maybe but at best you are getting the same offensive production.

 

And he's two years younger. I think "at best" you'd be getting better offense, too, but that's just based on talent & ceiling -- I think Stewart's is higher than McGehee's.

 

I can understand the financial angle, didn't consider that when I first posted, RockCo. If Ian Stewart, at age 26, has suddenly completely lost the ability to hit, then I guess I would be screwed in said trade. I just don't believe he has. I think he'd give you very comparable offensive production with better defense, and has the chance to become a much better offensive player (not that he necessarily would, just that he has the talent to do it).

[RockCoCougars]

Stewart might even get non tendered next season, what is the maximum that his salary can be cut- 15% or something?

[endaround]

Ian Stewart may get cut this season. He's not really all that welcome there right now. I really don't see him as much of an improvement on McGehee. Both will end up with slightly above average bats with slightly below average gloves. Now as a becnh player on teh current Brwers he would be welcome because well the bench is really limited right now.

[logan82]

Stewart might even get non tendered next season, what is the maximum that his salary can be cut- 15% or something?

His salary can be cut to league minimum as long as he isn't offered arbitration by his own team.

 

The club's salary offer to a player under its control (pre-free agency players) may not be less than 80% of the player's salary and performance bonuses the previous year or less than 70% of his salary and performance bonuses from 2 years earlier. (Exception: If a player won an arbitration award the previous year increasing his salary 50% or more, the 80% requirement does not apply.) The 80% rule does not apply to free agents who are offered arbitration.

[RockCoCougars]

Stewart might even get non tendered next season, what is the maximum that his salary can be cut- 15% or something?

His salary can be cut to league minimum as long as he isn't offered arbitration by his own team.

 

The club's salary offer to a player under its control (pre-free agency players) may not be less than 80% of the player's salary and performance bonuses the previous year or less than 70% of his salary and performance bonuses from 2 years earlier. (Exception: If a player won an arbitration award the previous year increasing his salary 50% or more, the 80% requirement does not apply.) The 80% rule does not apply to free agents who are offered arbitration.

Thanks for the info. So if the Brewers were to trade for him, they'd have to go to arbitration next winter or non-tender him. Has a player ever received a pay cut in arby?

[logan82]

I don't think many if any players have received a salary cut in arbitration. Players are so drastically underpaid before they hit FA players even receive an increase after an off year. Look back at Hart. The only way they would receive a cut is if they were non-tendered.

[Warning Track Power]

Ian Stewart may get cut this season. He's not really all that welcome there right now. I really don't see him as much of an improvement on McGehee. Both will end up with slightly above average bats with slightly below average gloves. Now as a bench player on the current Brewers he would be welcome because well the bench is really limited right now.

I'd welcome this immediately, but don't know what the Brewers would have to give in a trade. Would a Parra-Stewart deal work? I don't know about the extent of Manny's elbow, but it seems like a deal worth investigating given both Stewart's and Parra's fallen star prospect status with each organization. Putting Stewart on the bench would do nothing but make us stronger this year. Yes, we still have a LH dominant bench, and yes he has struggled mightily this season, but Stewart allows for 1B and 3B backup allowing Counsell to focus solely on SS. I like this idea.

 

 

[JohnBriggs12]

Ian Stewart may get cut this season. He's not really all that welcome there right now. I really don't see him as much of an improvement on McGehee. Both will end up with slightly above average bats with slightly below average gloves. Now as a bench player on the current Brewers he would be welcome because well the bench is really limited right now.

I'd welcome this immediately, but don't know what the Brewers would have to give in a trade. Would a Parra-Stewart deal work? I don't know about the extent of Manny's elbow, but it seems like a deal worth investigating given both Stewart's and Parra's fallen star prospect status with each organization. Putting Stewart on the bench would do nothing but make us stronger this year. Yes, we still have a LH dominant bench, and yes he has struggled mightily this season, but Stewart allows for 1B and 3B backup allowing Counsell to focus solely on SS. I like this idea.

 

Well Parra certainly figures to be non-tendered also if not cut before then. It's hard to trade an injured pitcher though. I also don't see him helping the bench. He'd be taking Boggs roster spot, and that would leave them without a RH pinch hitter. I wouldn't see a manager taking a guy who's 3 for 47 over Morgan, Kotsay, or Counsell to pinch hit either.

[StearnsFTW]

Jeez, enough with the 3 for 47 crap. Who cares? I mean do people really think he forgot how to hit?

 

I'd love to have Stewart on our bench. He can play 3rd or 1st and he came up as a 2B, so he could probably handle it in a pinch.

 

Do people really worry about losing Brandon Boggs when considering getting Stewart? I'd do Parra for Stewart in a heartbeat. Of course, I'd trade Parra for pretty much anything, so I guess that isn't relevant. I'd like Stewart on our team though, I know that.

[RockCoCougars]

Watch Parra go to Colorado and turn into another JDLR. Even though I don't think Stewart is as good as others here, I would do that trade- I thought Parra was almost ready to go.

[StearnsFTW]

That would truly suck. Although Parra infuriates me so much that I'm willing to take the risk. I also really like Stewart as a player. His performance this season baffles me.

[Warning Track Power]

With McGehee still struggling, I hope Melvin is at least kicking the tires on Stewart. He's in a little skid at Triple AAA right now and apparently needs an "attitude adjustment" but he's someone I would love to see acquired in a minor deal to provide at least a platoon partner for McGehee. In fact, maybe a straight up swap of the two in a change of scenery type of deal. Not sure I can get behind this yet as it just popped into my head, but I would have to give it serious thought. Adding another left handed bat would be an added benefit.

[miggs721]

The Rockies are in talks with a mystery NL team for Stewart, could it be us, we will find out soon enough!!!

[Invader3K]

I guess I don't get the fasciniation with Ian Stewart. His numbers are way worse than McGehee's this season.

[miggs721]

I actually agree, i mean its hard to find someone hitting lower than Counsell, with similar At-Bats