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2011-05-13 Pirates (McDonald) at Brewers (Gallardo) - [Brewers win, 5-2; pre- and post-game audio near tail end of thread]


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I would imagine part of swinging at the first pitch has to do with the pitchers tendencies. I agree that Hardy is a good example of someone who just took too many first pitch strikes and some guys just swing way too much at it but if your scouting report says he likes to throw first pitch strikes you should be going up looking to swing a lot of the time.

I think its mainly a Yuni thing where pitchers just think he'll get him self out. If its in the zone Yuni will most likely swing at it, if he swings at it he'll make contact and most likely he'll get himself out.

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According to Yahoo, the benches clearing was Weeks' fault:

MILWAUKEE (AP)—The benches briefly cleared in the third inning of Friday night’s game between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh after Rickie Weeks was tagged hard by Pirates shortstop Ronny Cedeno. Weeks was caught in a run down and as he slowed down, Cedeno tagged him and appeared to inadvertently push him away with his left arm.

Weeks didn’t appreciate the force used and replays showed Weeks asking Cedeno, “What did you say?” before being restrained by third base umpire Brian O’Nora and second base umpire Chris Conroy.

Both benches and bullpens emptied, but Weeks was pulled away from the situation quickly and returned to the dugout. Cedeno didn’t move toward the rest of the Brewers and no one was ejected.

This doesn't really seem like what happened from my point of view. Weeks tried to spin around Cedeno at the last minute but they both moved the same way and collided. Cedeno obviously said something that Weeks didn't like, I assume he was the one who complained about the contact and then things went from there. This article seems completely backwards. Do I just have Brewer's glasses on?

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According to Yahoo, the benches clearing was Weeks' fault:

MILWAUKEE (AP)—The benches briefly cleared in the third inning of Friday night’s game between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh after Rickie Weeks was tagged hard by Pirates shortstop Ronny Cedeno. Weeks was caught in a run down and as he slowed down, Cedeno tagged him and appeared to inadvertently push him away with his left arm.

Weeks didn’t appreciate the force used and replays showed Weeks asking Cedeno, “What did you say?” before being restrained by third base umpire Brian O’Nora and second base umpire Chris Conroy.

Both benches and bullpens emptied, but Weeks was pulled away from the situation quickly and returned to the dugout. Cedeno didn’t move toward the rest of the Brewers and no one was ejected.

This doesn't really seem like what happened from my point of view. Weeks tried to spin around Cedeno at the last minute but they both moved the same way and collided. Cedeno obviously said something that Weeks didn't like, I assume he was the one who complained about the contact and then things went from there. This article seems completely backwards. Do I just have Brewer's glasses on?

Nope, that's the way I saw it too. Yahoo or the AP is just stupid and must not have been watching the game.
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Axford since his last blown save on 4/18: 9 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 11 K. Those 2 ER came in mopup duty in an 8-0 loss to Atlanta.

 

After the disaster on Opening Day, Axford has an ERA of about 2.47 in 14.2 IP, 5 BB, and 15 K. Nice rebound.

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iI love to read the pirates message board, they are so bitter.

one of the posts I found hilarious

Brewers had 2nd (Weeks) and 3rd (Gallardo) and 1 out. Gomez hit a

groundball to Alvarez. Runners broke from their stations. Alvarez ran

towards Weeks and threw to *somebody* at second, *somebody* ran Weeks to

3rd and threw to Cedeno, Cedeno caught the ball and ran Weeks toward

2nd. Weeks anticipated a throw, or tried to initiate a collision back

towards third and Cedeno ran into him. It looked like Cedeno was saying

'Sry' and then Weeks said something about Cedeno's wife. and the

Brewers emptied the benches, and then the Pirates bench emptied. There

may have been 2 extra exchanges on the rundown but the direction of the

last two throws were accurate. I only saw the replay once.

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The Brewers' have baseball's best record in games played on Friday the 13th: 23-13. Thanks for the factoid, Cory Provus!

 

Also, that Pirates poster must be a heck of a lip reader to be able to declare that Rickie was talking about Ronny Cedeno's wife.

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“He hit me with an elbow and I said what’s going on, and that’s it,” Cedeno said. “I’ve known Weeks for a long time because we grew up in the Minor Leagues [together]. I’m surprised he gave me attitude. I didn’t say anything. I didn’t try to fight or do anything bad in the field. When you cross those lines right there, even though we’re friends … he’s trying to play hard. They do play hard. We’ll be friends, talking before the game, you know how with players it is. I’m surprised.”

So it was the way it looked - Rickie thought if anybody had a complaint it was him and was surprised when Cedeno started whining.


P.S. It must have looked that way to our Pirate fan friend too since he assumed Cedeno was apologizing instead of complaining.
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This was a fun game to be at. The blown call at 2B on the YuniB tag was ridiculous. How they couldn't get that right is beyond me.

 

It was one of those nights where every time the lineup rolled over to Gomez it was with runners on and he'd put together 2-3 good pitches in a row, then go to hacking. He was up 3-1 and took two awful swings the first time.

 

I was impressed RRR went with Estrada for two instead of tinkering with using Stetter and Hawkins in the 8th (as he had them warming). I thought for sure he was going to go to the manager's book of having to use a set-up guy in the 8th inning with the lead.

 

Nice to see Yo help himself. I had no problem with Yo batting in the 6th even though it was evident his day was done because Estrada was warm by the end of the top half and was just kind of long tossing to stay loose.

 

Get these wins when you can!

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ilovebeer[/b]]wasn't it something to do with Braun and Matt Capps? Also they don't like that we crush them every year.
Matt Capps threw at Prince's head in 2007.

Ryan had the nerve to be happy about a pennant race changing grand slam in 2008.

Jeff Karstens plunked Ryan in 2009 and Ryan mouthed off about it a bit after the game.

And yeah, there was that lengthy win streak over PIT, then a lengthy home win streak over PIT.

I seem to remember something with Prince running over the catcher, I believe, the night before the Capps throwing at his head game. I think they felt it was unnecessary, which is why they threw at him the next day. I think both games were come from behind wins. Looking at the schedule it may have been Aug 31 of '07, if someone wants to fact check.

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