2011-04-27 Reds at Brewers - [Brewers lose, 7-6, 10 innings; pre- and post-game audio at tail end of thread]

[PrinceEatMeat]

Well, that loss sucked.

[Invader3K]

Tough loss. It's too bad Gallardo was so rough early on. I think the game would have turned out differently if he had been on.

[cnycerveceros]

All things considered, I don't think it was as discouraging a loss as it might have been.

[Ennder]

Baker didn't have a problem leaving Chapman in for another inning...now he has Cordero left to close tithe game out. There is no reason why Loe or Axford couldn't have pitched a second inning. Hawkins gets a pass since he just came off of the DL.

Chapman threw 3 pitches yesterday, bit different than Axford. Baker is also known for killing his pitchers so I wouldn't use him as my role model.

[davemakovec]

Is Cordero perfect against the Brewers since he left? I think he is.

 

Screw you, Ken Macha. What does this have to do with Ken Macha? I don't know, and I don't care, but I can't figure out who's most to blame for this loss, and I hate that guy.

[MoreTrife]

cordero on year 4 of contract right? i hate the fact that it basicallyt worked out for reds. i hate that in the 3 years so far we've never gotten to him. oh, and i hate wasting a day watching baseball like thi.

[bucksman4]

Agreed with a previous poster who put this "L" on Gallardo. He's pitching horribly and definitely like the #5 starter in this rotation. The guy has 0 confidence in his stuff and for a guy who has the repertoire that he does to not have the "go at you" mentality, it really is frustrating as a fan.

 

He better get his act together soon. This team isn't capable of coming back from huge deficits each time Yo pitches.

[dlk9s]

All things considered, I don't think it was as discouraging a loss as it might have been.

I'm encouraged by the multiple comebacks. It would have been easy for the hitters to get discouraged, but they kept battling back. Losses happen, just stinks that it was against the Reds for the umpteenth time.

[brewmann04]

What a bad way to lose a series to a divison Rival and add now they have to head out to the Road. YO BETTER GET HIMSELF STRAIGHTEN OUT REAL SOON.

[cnycerveceros]

All things considered, I don't think it was as discouraging a loss as it might have been.

I'm encouraged by the multiple comebacks. It would have been easy for the hitters to get discouraged, but they kept battling back. Losses happen, just stinks that it was against the Reds for the umpteenth time.

Yeah, that sums up what I'm thinking. This one mostly 'hurts' because it was the Reds, and I think Gallardo probably will get back on track.

[pretendastronaut]

If it didn't make us 1-5 against the Reds this season, I wouldn't mind this loss so much.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

If it didn't make us 1-5 against the Reds this season, I wouldn't mind this loss so much.

Yup. Hard to spot a division rival four games at the start of the season.

[topper09er]

Cordero vs Milwaukee, 08-11 counting today:

 

1-0, 18 SV, 26.2 IP, 3 ER, 8 BB, 26 K, 1.01 ERA, 0.99 WHIP

[Ennder]

Cordero vs Milwaukee, 08-11 counting today:

 

1-0, 18 SV, 26.2 IP, 3 ER, 8 BB, 26 K, 1.01 ERA, 0.99 WHIP

I'd imagine if you looked at him vs the rest of the league his stats would be pretty ugly.

[trwi7]

BTW, here are games where Axford has pitched back to back days and how many pitches he threw.

 

5/19 - 5/20 - 50 pitches

 

6/5 - 6/6 - 45 pitches

 

6/22 - 6/23 - 53 pitches

 

7/9 - 7/11 - 50 pitches

 

7/22 - 7/24 - 48 pitches

 

8/2 - 8/3 - 30 pitches

 

8/8 - 8/9 - 36 pitches

 

8/17 - 8/18 - 45 pitches

 

8/27 - 8/28 - 34 pitches

 

9/28 - 9/29 - 33 pitches

 

And Roenicke has done it twice this year with 34 pitches and 31 pitches. Axford had 13 pitches yesterday and 14 today. At the very least leave him out for Renteria and Stubbs and have Braddock warmed up for Bruce and Votto. Then you still have Mitre with a bunch of righties up (only lefty would've been Hermida who would pinch hit) after that it's all righties until Bruce and Votto are up again.

[Ennder]

Fair enough, but I wouldn't normally expect a 1 inning type who has thrown 27 pitches over 2 days to come out and pitch another inning. I'd think it is the exception more than the rule, especially given how inconsistent Axford has been so far.

[endaround]

Again why is Axford a 1 inning guy? He wasn't under Macha.

[thablingster]

Frustrating loss. I was at the game and wasn't really going to say anything about it, but the response RRR gave to why Stetter pitched to Votto instead of walking him annoyed me.

"I don't want to load the bases and bring in a guy from the bullpen,"

Roenicke said. "If I'm bringing in a Kameron Loe, somebody that we know

is not going to walk anybody and is really locked in, it's a little bit

different. It was too early to bring him in that game."

Why was it too early, Ron? Because the manager's book says so? I realize this argument falls on deaf ears when it comes to baseball people, but if the game is on the line use your best reliever. Worry about the next inning when it gets there.

 

Basically what he's saying is he doesn't have confidence in Sean Green to throw quality strikes. If that's the case, why is Green pitching in the highest leverage situation of the ballgame? Because the manager's book says so. Dusty brought in his best reliever in the highest leverage situation his team faced and we saw how that worked out. Dusty also yanked his starter for a LOOGY in a tight spot, costing his guy a chance to win but keeping the game where it was. Granted, this is Dusty and he does some crazy things, but it worked out for him this time.

 

On the flip side, if Sean Green has to pitch to 7-9 in the 8th inning in a tie game starting with the bases clear because you used Kameron Loe in the 6th inning to keep the game tied, so be it. By that time you're free to consider using Axford if Green eventually works his way into trouble.

 

Keep in mind I'm not blaming Green for the loss, but just pointing out the flawed logic.

 

In happier thoughts, it's great to see Corey Hart again. Jon Luc continues to get it done, I'm excited to see him continue to develop. Provided no setbacks we'll be seeing ZG in about a week. Tony Plush will be back soon, as will Saito. Even in a tough loss, things are looking up.

[Mass Haas]

Post-game audio --

Press pool / clubhouse:

 

Yovani Gallardo

Corey Hart

Carlos Gomez

Interview:

 

WSSP -- Adam McCalvy

***

 

Pre-game interview:

WSSP -- John Axford

WSSP -- Jonathan Lucroy's weekly visit

[Cyanogen5]

Baker didn't have a problem leaving Chapman in for another inning...now he has Cordero left to close tithe game out. There is no reason why Loe or Axford couldn't have pitched a second inning. Hawkins gets a pass since he just came off of the DL.

Chapman threw 3 pitches yesterday, bit different than Axford. Baker is also known for killing his pitchers so I wouldn't use him as my role model.

Fair enough, and I did think about Dusty's track record before I posted, but I still don't see why Either Loe or Axford or both couldn't have pitched another inning. I understand that doing so doesn't guarantee a victory, and it very well could have turned out poorly as well, but I still don't understand the "only one inning" mentality.