Brewers Acquire RHP Sergio Mitre from NYY for Chris Dickerson

[RobDeer 45]

Let's not put too much stock in to Dickerson. He was ok but he wasn't going to win us games and isn't going to hurt us when he's gone. I have no opinion on Mitre but I do agree we have a mess of backup OF'ers that won't really help or hurt us and we are really hurting for pitching at this moment. I think many of you are making a really big deal out of this when really it's not a big deal at all.

[MJLiverock]

If you believe in the market setting the price and value - - Dickerson has been traded for an aged and gimpy Jim Edmonds and a mediocre middle reliever in the past year. Dickerson is what he is, a journeyman backup player that really isn't anything irreplaceable.

[BritInWI]

This is Dickerson we're talking about. He's 29 years old in a couple of weeks and has done absolutely nothing as a backup OF

over the last two years.In fact, looking at the numbers he put up over that time (even taking into account the small sample size) the

word that comes to mind is "yuck". I'm not excited about Mitre, but I'm also not unhappy to see the back of Dickerson

The .356 OBP Dickerson has put up over his small sample is better than we can probably expect from Gomez. Much, much better with slightly worse defense.

Yeah but .222 and .250 over the past two years? Again, small sample size in terms of PAs, but the inflated OBP is based on what he did 3 and 4 years ago. If he were still 24 or 25, I would have more hope he was capable of bouncing back to that - but he's not.

 

I still don't get it. I get the "meh" but not the hate for this trade.

[Invader3K]

RobDeer 45] I think many of you are making a really big deal out of this when really it's not a big deal at all.

This is pretty much how I feel. I never got the sense that the Brewers saw Dickerson as any sort of long term piece. Mitre provides a bit of depth and injury insurance. He's not a really good pitcher, but he can work in long relief or as a spot starter. That's it. Not a trade to get all riled up about either way.

[RobDeer 45]

This is pretty much how I feel. I never got the sense that the Brewers saw Dickerson as any sort of long term piece. Mitre provides a bit of depth and injury insurance. He's not a really good pitcher, but he can work in long relief or as a spot starter. That's it. Not a trade to get all riled up about either way.

Word! Def not worth fighting about.

 

 

[PKBadger]

This is Dickerson we're talking about. He's 29 years old in a couple of weeks and has done absolutely nothing as a backup OF

over the last two years.In fact, looking at the numbers he put up over that time (even taking into account the small sample size) the

word that comes to mind is "yuck". I'm not excited about Mitre, but I'm also not unhappy to see the back of Dickerson

The .356 OBP Dickerson has put up over his small sample is better than we can probably expect from Gomez. Much, much better with slightly worse defense.

Yeah but .222 and .250 over the past two years? Again, small sample size in terms of PAs, but the inflated OBP is based on what he did 3 and 4 years ago. If he were still 24 or 25, I would have more hope he was capable of bouncing back to that - but he's not.

 

I still don't get it. I get the "meh" but not the hate for this trade.

You're misreading his stat line.

In 2009 (2 years ago), he had a .370 OBP in 299 major league plate appearances.

In 2010, he had a combined OBP of .250 - .222 with the Reds, and .271 with the Brewers - in an injury-plagued season.

 

[BritInWI]

KegStand81]You're misreading his stat line.

In 2009 (2 years ago), he had a .370 OBP in 299 major league plate appearances.

In 2010, he had a combined OBP of .250 - .222 with the Reds, and .271 with the Brewers - in an injury-plagued season.

 

Whoops. Yes, you're correct. That's exactly what I was doing. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/embarassed.gif

 

Still not seeing the problem with the trade though.

[Crash2303]

what happens if Gomez is injured or ends up really sucking?

[PrinceFielderx1]

what happens if Gomez is injured or ends up really sucking?

Logan Schafer could be an option around mid-season.

[PrinceEatMeat]

what happens if Gomez is injured or ends up really sucking?

That's why we should trade for Nyjer Morgan, but we won't.

[trwi7]

what happens if Gomez is injured or ends up really sucking?

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/118669714.html

 

 

If Carlos got hurt, we could be scrambling.

 

Smart trade, Doug.

[Invader3K]

A bit selective with your quoting, twi7: "He's had a good spring. We'll continue to look at center fielders. If Carlos got hurt, we could be scrambling."

[RockCoCougars]

what happens if Gomez is injured or ends up really sucking?

Most likely, a mediocre 'guy' will be plugged in. This trade hasn't really changed anything.

[monty57]

This frees up the logjam we had for our bench, gives us much needed pitching depth, and allows us to keep 1 or 2 RH bats on the bench. I liked Dickerson as a backup OF, but we do have a lot of backup OF, and very little SP options beyond our top 5. Kotsay was going to start in RF until Hart's returns, and then would be the #1 LH bat off the bench, and Counsell was probably going to be #2, so the only PT Dickerson would've had was in CF. I liked him as a potential "soft platoon" partner for Gomez, but I think Boggs will be fine in that role. Without this trade, we probably would've lost Boggs, and Mitre should make up for the marginal upgrade Dickerson potentially holds over Boggs.

[The Truth]

monty57, I sure hope you are correct and it is Boggs that we keep and not Jeremy Reed. I wonder if this helps Luis Cruz' chances to make the team, too?

 

depending on how long Hart is out, I hope Boggs gets some starts in right instead of trotting out Kotsay every game. Boggs is a much better fielder and likely and better hitter at this point than Kotsay

[Baldkin]

Who is now the backup CF?

 

And seriously, no one better say Corey Hart.

[Invader3K]

Jeremy Reed has 259 career starts in CF, and played there as recently as 2009 with the Mets.

[sheetswannabe]

So basically we traded Jim Edmonds for Sergio Mitre. No me gusta. I hope he does well, and pitches like he did last year (without injuries). I would be pretty excited to see Boggs get the starts Hart will miss. He's looked pretty good this spring.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Who is now the backup CF?

 

And seriously, no one better say Corey Hart.

Brandon Boggs. Not that hard to figure out. Or Reed I guess, but I prefer Boggs.

[Funketown]

Don't be surprised if Kotsay's the backup CF right now. I'm really hoping that's not the case, as he's probably a worse CF at this point than Betancourt is a shortstop.

 

Can Boggs play CF? He only has 20 innings there in the majors, but I don't know how much he has played there in the minors.

 

It is amazing how much better this team could have been with $5 million cleverly spent by Doug Melvin.

 

I have no problem with Mitre as the 5th starter for 4-5 starts. I just really wonder whether it was worth Chris Dickerson to replace five Marco Estrada starts with five Sergio Mitre starts. My gut says it wasn't.

[And That]

Brandon Boggs and Jeremy Reed can both play CF, but you wouldn't want either one doing it a whole lot. I'm not a fan of Reed's OF play, so between the two I'd rather have Boggs do it.

[dlk9s]

Hey everybody, you do you realize that panties have been gathered into a bunch over a spot starter/reliever and a backup outfielder, right? Yeah, sure, there is some need for these guys right now with all the injuries, but it's not like the Brewers were going to be able to go very good players to fill in, anyway.

[endaround]

Hey everybody, you do you realize that panties have been gathered into a bunch over a spot starter/reliever and a backup outfielder, right? Yeah, sure, there is some need for these guys right now with all the injuries, but it's not like the Brewers were going to be able to go very good players to fill in, anyway.

You do realize this means that there is no back up plan if Carlos Gomez continues being Carlos Gomez?

[logan82]

Hey everybody, you do you realize that panties have been gathered into a bunch over a spot starter/reliever and a backup outfielder, right? Yeah, sure, there is some need for these guys right now with all the injuries, but it's not like the Brewers were going to be able to go very good players to fill in, anyway.

You do realize this means that there is no back up plan if Carlos Gomez continues being Carlos Gomez?

Exactly. At least with Dickerson on the team we had a guy who could play decent defense with a good chance to hit well as well.

 

In 2009 (2 years ago), he had a .370 OBP in 299 major league plate appearances.

He also had a decent OBP in the minors. There is plenty of evidence to suggest he could put up a good OBP to go along with good defense in CF.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Hey everybody, you do you realize that panties have been gathered into a bunch over a spot starter/reliever and a backup outfielder, right? Yeah, sure, there is some need for these guys right now with all the injuries, but it's not like the Brewers were going to be able to go very good players to fill in, anyway.

You do realize this means that there is no back up plan if Carlos Gomez continues being Carlos Gomez?

Yep, exactly why I cringed when I saw who we gave up in this trade. Reed and Boggs can both play CF, but not as good as Dickerson. It scares me a little bit for sure. I just hope Gomez steps it up, so we don't have to worry. As long as he doesn't suck badly we should be fine.