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Michael Young?

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Way too much money for a guy who isn't great shakes defensively at shortstop. He's been a good hitter, but I wonder how much the ballpark at Arlington has contributed to that. If the Rangers would take Betancourt and Hawkins off their hands, I'd give it some thought, but otherwise, no. In the end, I don't think I'd do it anyway because that contract is huge for the next three years- Wolf would probably have to be kicked in as well, with some money coming back from Texas- I don't really see a motivation for either team to make the move in that case. Personally, I'd just go with the status quo for now.
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Wolf would probably have to be kicked in as well

 

Please repeat after me: Wolf is not Suppan.

 

Wolf might not be worth the $7m/year we gave him, but he is still needed and useful for our rotation.

Which is why I don't see the motivation for the Brewers to make such a deal. I'm sure they are very content with Wolf as the 4, as am I. That said, they wouldn't be able to deal for Young unless Texas paid the vast majority of his salary (not happening), or if they were to send a lot of salary back. Wolf is probably their most expendable 'big money' guy, as I don't see them trading Fielder or Greinke in a deal for Young.
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I'm sure they are very content with Wolf as the 4, as am I.

 

I must have misinterpreted then. I realized you were focused on Young's salary, but too many have lumped Wolf in with Suppan. If this was last year and we were talking Suppan, I would fully agree on him for a salary dump. But trading Wolf now puts a big dent in out SP plan. Yes, he is #4, but our #6,7... SPs are all unproven and/or a big step down from Wolf. Rogers may bust out this year, but I would prefer it be a pleasant surprise, not because we forced him in the line-up.

 

Betancourt + Wolf >> Young

Betancourt + Wolf + Hawkins >>> Young

 

If anything, it would have to be:

Betancourt + for Young + cash : where the cash is mainly dependent on the level of minor leaguer we give.

 

Not that it matters, I don't see DM making a big splash at SS anyway. At least not until its an obvious problem (injury or YB completely flopping around mid-year).

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Melvin should have zero interest. Young is 34, has $48MM and 3 years left, hits well but not great, and is only OK defensively. He'd be a guy you'd consider at 1 yr and $10MM if they took Betancourt back, but that contract is toxic.

Never say never. Look at the Vernon Wells deal. Even in an all in year, this makes no sense. Need as much money free as possible to try to extend Weeks/Greinke/Marcum and sign a decent SS after the season. If YuBet is abyssmal come June, I could see a trade for Reyes or rental equivalent or an Erick Aybar or longer term, no budget buster alternative.

 

Guaranteed loss of one or two of Weeks/Greinke/Marcum is the likely result of a Young deal. Pass.

 

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And even with that, the money is far better spent on Weeks. But honestly I'm not sure why this is even being seriously discussed. Young's a corner infielder, and those spots are well-manned for now & the future.
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This is the time I kinda wish we had a bad contract to send to Texas. I think Michael Young is a good comparison to Derek Jeter. Their career numbers are quite similar. The guy can flat out rake and is comparable to Betancourt defensively.

 

Betancourt and Hawkins for Young and 15mil?

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A year and a half or so ago, a Suppan/Hall/Riske for Young deal would have made sense for the Brewers (financially), but the Texas fans would have mutinied- not to mention that the Brewers had two shortstops. Now I'm sure that Texas would be happy to dump him if at all possible. Amazing how fast a star can dim, and how a big contract can become an albatross.
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Honestly, Young can NOT be any worse defensively at SS than Betancourt, and he's obviously a better hitter. He would be a great addition to our lineup, and I think we could work a deal around Betancourt + for Young, so long as Texas either eats a lot of his contract or sends us money to pay him. If we have to take on anywhere above 50% of his contract, though, Melvin should slam the phone down.

 

I don't think we'll be dealing for Young, but it's entirely possible that Texas could get really desperate to deal him and would even take on the majority of his contract just to dump him. I think this is more of a wait-and-see situation right now, though.

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Adding Young and any portion of his contract to the payroll would upset me. I think this would be incredibly shortsighted as I don't think having Young, even at a discounted rate for the next three seasons, is good business for the Brewers. Like I said previously, even at a discount, his acquisition likely guarantees the departure of 2 of Weeks/Greinke/Marcum which puts us further away not closer to the championship.
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Supposedly Young has asked the Rangers to trade him because he doesn't want to primarily DH.

 

Young seems like he could have a lot of uses for the Brewers (especially if both Weeks and Fielder leave after 2011). I just wouldn't want to take on that whole contract, or give up a lot to get him. Not sure there is a fit here.

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If Weeks was being offered 5yr/$50MM, he would already be extended. I would offer him this, but this is the limit of my comfort in terms of years, money and AAV. If he has been offered this and is still holding out for more, Rickie will be wearing a different uniform next season.

5 yrs/$50 million is worth it for Weeks IMO. Sure there's an injury risk but there's too much upside there to not sign him long term. Especially when there just aren't that many really great Second Basemen out there.

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I'd like Young, but I don't see a match unless Texas added some of their young pitching and made a play for Fielder. But it seems clear the Brewers closed the door on dealing Prince.
That's what I was thinking too JB. Pitching and/or prospects and Young for Fielder. That's the only way I could see Young being added.

 

 

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