Fielder to the Angels

[Hotdog]

The Angels need to make a big splash and sign Cliff Lee. The other big names are gone. After that, how about Fielder, McGhee, Rivas, and another mid-level prospect like Scarpatta or Peralta (heck give them all 3) for Kendry Morales, Brandon Wood, and Jared Weaver. Angels upgrade at the corner infields and the Brewers get a young number 2 behind Gallardo. Brewers could platoon Gamel/Wood at 3rd. This might be the old homer thought but the Angels upgrade there #1 starter with the Lee signing. Bigger bats at 1st and 3rd. Plus add a couple of young starting pitchers to their farm system. All for the cost of $300,000,000 if they extend Prince. Gallardo, Marcum, Wolf, Weaver, Capuano or Rodgers (dump Narveson for a solid bench player). Morales, Weeks, Escobar, platoon Gamel/Wood, Lucroy, Braun, Cain, and Hart.

[tyguy20204]

That's not very realistic. Kendry Morales, while not quite as good as Fielder, is no slouch, and he's under control until for three more years. Jared Weaver is one of the best pitchers in the entire American League. His season was incredible. I think he's untouchable.

[bylo tesi me]

Ken Rosenthal thinks the angels might consider moving Jared Weaver

 

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/the_angels_sign_lee_trade_weaver/3751751

[JohnBriggs12]

That's not very realistic. Kendry Morales, while not quite as good as Fielder, is no slouch, and he's under control until for three more years. Jared Weaver is one of the best pitchers in the entire American League. His season was incredible. I think he's untouchable.

They do have a DH spot that's open though and I would think a team like the Angels might be able to meet Fielder's asking price.

 

I don't see them outbidding the Yankees for Lee though especially now that Boston has put the pressure on the Yankees. My guess is they'll focus in on Beltre.

 

I agree that Weaver's not realistic. Santana is though.

[MNBrew]

Weaver's also represented by Scott Boras. Swapping him for Fielder doesn't solve any issues beyond the end of each guy's 6th year of organizational control.

[dadofandrew]

They might deal Weaver or Santana, especially if they sign Lee. Not sure if Prince would fit in the budget though.

[Weirdos19]

They made a $108mil offer to Crawford. They made a preliminary offer to Lee. They have money for Prince.

 

Getting Santana and Morales for Prince and Jeffress or Gamel would make me quite happy. We'd get our first baseman and a starter, plus not add a ton of payroll.

 

A move like that could give us room to still sign Pavano.

 

Gallardo

Marcum

Santana

Pavano

Wolf

 

Me likey.

[paulmolitor4]

With the Yankees having Teixeira and the Red Sox now having Gonzalez, Fielder would make sense for the Angels. They are one of the few teams left that you would think could use him and afford him after this upcoming season. Rangers also come to mind, but probably not an option if they sign Lee. I think getting Morales as part of a deal would be key.

[NievesNoNO]

O.K. Here goes my 3 way deal from the depths of my wanna be GM mind.

 

Angels get:

Fielder (Brewers - contingent on signing mega-deal extension)

Upton (Rays)

 

Brewers get:

Garza (Rays)

Eric Aybar (Angels)

Napoli (Angels)

 

Rays get:

Escobar (Brewers)

Peter Bourjos ( OF Angels)

Hank Conger (C Angels)

Rivas (Brewers)

[DHonks]

If Wood learns to hit, he'll be the next Jose Guillen or Jose Bautista--figuring it out years after he should be a star

[PrinceFielderx1]

The LA Angels just lost their 1B man for the season (Kendrys Morales). Does anybody think they could make a big splash for Prince Fielder?

 

I'm thinking that they are in need enough for a big time 1B man this season that they might be able to entice Doug Melvin to trade Fielder even if the Brewers are still in it come mid-season. Plus, if they land Fielder they will get 1st dibs at re-signing him and they have the money to do it. They also could use more production at DH perhaps next season if they choose not to keep Fielder at 1B. Fielder could be on their radar past this season, and might not view him as a rental.

 

The way Mike Trout is playing in AA for the Angels it seems like he is destined for a mid-season call-up. DM would probably demand Mike Trout to start serious talks about a trade involving Fielder. I was thinking Fielder/Komatsu/Pitcher for Trout/Thompson

 

Trout could take over in CF for the Brewers within a month or two and be their future CF for many years. I hear this kid has a ton of hype surrounding him and many people are saying he is a star already. Tons of talent. Thompson would be inserted in an unstable bullpen and give it a much needed boost. Mat Gamel would be called up to play 1B. This trade I feel would help the Brewers this season and in the future and save them enough money to re-sign Greinke/ or Marcum.

 

What do you think?

[Raw Biz]

Considering most people consider Trout the #1 prospect in all of baseball behind Harper (some may even have Trout above him), I doubt the Angels will move him. However, if they were willing to let go of Trout in a Prince trade, I'm all for it.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Considering most people consider Trout the #1 prospect in all of baseball behind Harper (some may even have Trout above him), I doubt the Angels will move him. However, if they were willing to let go of Trout in a Prince trade, I'm all for it.

It wouldn't be a 1 for 1 deal. It would involve multiple players on both sides probably more so on the Brewers. The Brewers would have to give the Angels some insurance.

[Warning Track Power]

Considering most people consider Trout the #1 prospect in all of baseball behind Harper (some may even have Trout above him), I doubt the Angels will move him. However, if they were willing to let go of Trout in a Prince trade, I'm all for it.

It wouldn't be a 1 for 1 deal. It would involve multiple players on both sides probably more so on the Brewers. The Brewers would have to give the Angels some insurance.

I'm still pretty upset about "insurance" deals with Carlos Lee/Nelson Cruz trade still fresh in my mind...4 years later.

 

[monty57]

The Brewers would have to give the Angels some insurance.

 

Carlos Gomez comes to mind. If this were to come to fruition, the Brewers certainly wouldn't have a need for Trout, Gomez & Morgan, especially with Schafer and others waiting in the wings.

 

I guess the possibility of this trade happening would be determined by how certain the Angels were that (A) they were going to the playoffs this season and (B) they would be able to extend Prince. I don't care if Trout's the #1 prospect in baseball, an extended Fielder (proven MLB superstar) is worth more than a rookie Trout (unproven future potential).

 

I would hope that any trade of Fielder would include a high-upside minor league pitcher, who could step in when Greinke, Marcum and Wolf are all due to leave after next season. While not cheap, a pitcher in the minors should be attainable, unlike the young, MLB-proven arms Melvin was apparently targeting last season.

[JohnBriggs12]

Mark Trumbo has been doing quite well in Morales' absence and he hit 36 HR with 122 RBI in AAA last year. I don't think they'd overpay (#2 prospect in the game) to rent Fielder.

 

Trumbo for Fielder might be interesting but only if the Brewers fell well out of it, and the Angels think they need an upgrade to get over the hump.

[TooLiveBrew]

I don't care if Trout's the #1 prospect in baseball, an extended Fielder (proven MLB superstar) is worth more than a rookie Trout (unproven future potential).

 

Just because you think this is true doesn't make it true, though -- it's your opinion. There is absolutely no way the Angels should be dealing a prospect like Trout for the chance to try to extend Fielder or re-sign him as a FA. I think the original suggestion that they might be willing to trade him for Fielder in & of itself is way too pie-in-the-sky.

 

By this standard, once upon a time Ryan Braun wasn't worth as much as Alfonso Soriano. That doesn't mean it would've been a good idea to trade an "unproven" Braun for Soriano (expensive bat-only star) before Braun hit the bigs, though. At some point you have to have faith in scouting & that a guy is producing in the minors -- Trout is currently dominating AA pitching to the tune of a 1.000+ OPS... as a 19-year old. I'm probably taking more of an issue than I should be with your post, but the notion of proven/unproven just grates on me. I understand the typical success rate for prospects isn't high, but a guy like Trout is hardly a typical prospect.

 

Trout is worth a lot right now, especially in the current MLB trade market where pre-arbitration star talent is more valued than ever. He's certainly worth more than a partial season of Fielder. And let's be honest, Prince is going to play the FA market. He's not going to re-sign with a team without at least seeing if there'll be a bidding war for his services. So, if you're the Angels, why would you not only trade for Prince when you are just going to have to give him the highest FA offer anyway, and on top of that, send arguably the best hitting prospect in the entire league for him? Just doesn't make any sense imo.

[RockCoCougars]

Make this deal, and you're giving up on the season. This is the type of deal that a rebuilding team would make, I don't care how good Trout projects to be.

[Oxy]

There is no way the Angels trade Trout. 7 years of cheap Trout for 1/2 season of slightly below market Fielder? Not going to happen.

 

What about Izturis/Aybar plus Morales/Trumbo for Fielder? This would both improve the team for this year as well as next year. I don't know anything about those guys' defense, but it has to be better than the Betancourt/Fielder como, plus they bring other skills to the table as well.

[The Truth]

In order to get Trout, the Brewers would likely have to throw in Marcum with Fielder. Seriously. And that is not gonna happen. Now if the Angels could negotiate an extension with Fielder before the trade, then maybe they would trade Trout for Fielder straight up. Maybe

 

That said, the possibility of Fielder being traded to the Angels is a good one, even if we don't get Trout. I'm not at all convinced the Brewers will be in it at the trade deadline and they may indeed be dealing Fielder in mid-July

[PrinceFielderx1]

Mark Trumbo has been doing quite well in Morales' absence and he hit 36 HR with 122 RBI in AAA last year. I don't think they'd overpay (#2 prospect in the game) to rent Fielder.

 

Trumbo for Fielder might be interesting but only if the Brewers fell well out of it, and the Angels think they need an upgrade to get over the hump.

I think they could use Fielder at 1B or DH to put them over the top and to make up for the loss of Morales. Fielder has almost double the RBI's of Hunter and is an elite hitter. I would think that the Angels would favor Fielder over any one of their hitters and would want a player like him more than a top prospect that has yet to prove himself in Mike Trout. The Angels are in contention right now and could be looking for that player to put them over the edge come mid-season and Fielder could be it. If the Angels come calling I'd bet everything that Doug Melvin will demand Mike Trout since Fielder is an elite mlb hitter. If the Angels say no then no deal. The Brewers don't need a 1B man back in a trade for Fielder, because they have Gamel. The Brewers however could use a player of Mike Trouts caliber in CF and in the line-up.

[TooLiveBrew]

I would think that the Angels would favor Fielder over any one of their hitters and would want a player like him more than a top prospect that has yet to prove himself in Mike Trout.

 

I would think they would not. Like Oxy said, "7 years of cheap Trout for 1/2 season of slightly below market Fielder? Not going to happen." This isn't something that's like right on the edge of being plausible or not. This is Brewers fans dreaming waaay too hard.

[PrinceFielderx1]

And let's be honest, Prince is going to play the FA market. He's not going to re-sign with a team without at least seeing if there'll be a bidding war for his services. So, if you're the Angels, why would you not only trade for Prince when you are just going to have to give him the highest FA offer anyway, and on top of that, send arguably the best hitting prospect in the entire league for him? Just doesn't make any sense imo.

To be fair we don't know if he is going to test the market. Has he said it? If the Brewers let him walk yes he will test FA, but if they trade him to a team that has the money to re-sign him (Angels) then they could very well work out a deal. This makes sense to me because it's mainly about this season and the Angels making a move to improve their chances this season. That could very well be enough to move Mike Trout.

[RockCoCougars]

This deal makes no sense for either team. The Brewers would be waving the flag on 2011, and the Angels are already in first place. Why would they trade their top prospect for a rental player when Trumbo is putting up pretty good numbers for them?

[PrinceFielderx1]

This deal makes no sense for either team. The Brewers would be waving the flag on 2011, and the Angels are already in first place. Why would they trade their top prospect for a rental player when Trumbo is putting up pretty good numbers for them?

That's not exactly true. I would think by adding Trout to CF and Gamel to 1B that those two combined could help a lot to balance the loss of production by trading Fielder as soon as this season. Yes the Angels are in 1st place, but how do they compare with other teams in the AL if they were to get to the playoffs? Also it's only a little bit over a month into the season and things could change. Trumbo is not Prince Fielder.