College Basketball 2010-2011

[jjfanec]

I have one word for today's game: Ouch.

That is a nice way to put it. Glad it only shows up as one loss because it felt like worse

[TooLiveBrew]

Although Brusewitz dunking all over Dallas Lauderdale certainly will stick with me for some time. I don't think I'd even seen Brusewitz *dunk* before. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[jhart05]

I have a great idea. Forget about today's Badger blowout, come on down and support the Panthers on Tuesday night!! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[crewcrazy]

George Mason loses in the CAA semifinals today. Bad news for Marquette and anyone else on the bubble. That's one at-large bid gone.

Missouri State now joins the bubble teams. Will be interesting to see if they sneak in with the bubble being weak.

Their best non-conference win was against Saint Louis, and the Missouri Valley Conference was a pretty big joke this year. If literally every other bubble team loses in the first round of their conference tourney, I still don't see how Missouri State should make it.

Yeah, Missouri State is iffy at best this year. Mason is in without a doubt, though, and if Old Dominion loses to VCU in the CAA finals today (a possibility), I like their odds of getting an at-large, too. Three bids for the CAA would be great to see, but I'm a bit of a homer there. It was a great conference this year, though...six 20-win teams with quite a bit of pro-level talent.

[jjfanec]

George Mason loses in the CAA semifinals today. Bad news for Marquette and anyone else on the bubble. That's one at-large bid gone.

Missouri State now joins the bubble teams. Will be interesting to see if they sneak in with the bubble being weak.

Their best non-conference win was against Saint Louis, and the Missouri Valley Conference was a pretty big joke this year. If literally every other bubble team loses in the first round of their conference tourney, I still don't see how Missouri State should make it.

Did not realize their overall profile was so bad but i have seen numerous people having them on the bubble and one had them as their first 4 out. Which at this point means you wont make it because so much can happen. Most people I have read say if Gonzaga wins both them and St. Mary's are in. If VCU beats Old Dominion they are both in with George Mason. And if UW-Milwaukee beats Butler both are in. Now I know you can argue all those but that would be mid-majors getting 4 extra bids at least. Could be an interesting Sunday depending on how the conference tournaments go

[LouisEly]

Looking at the success of Butler, Davidson, and Cornell in the tourney the last few years - even going back to George Mason in 2006 - it would not surprise me to see the selection committee place less emphasis on strength of schedule and more emphasis on winning. Strength of schedule is somewhat arbitrary - doesn't it depend on what teams are ranked in the polls, and isn't that determined by voters perceptions? I'm not saying they are going to entirely discount SOS; I'm just saying less emphasis.

[jhart05]

There are still about 500 tickets available for tonight at the Mecca.

 

Still time to get yours.

 

Come on down.

[homer]

I didn't get to watch the UWM game but that first half must not have been very pretty.

[TooLiveBrew]

It was bad. UWM got hot for a bit in the middle of the game, but frankly the final score was more indicative of the game as a whole than a close score would've been. Butler just outclassed UWM tonight, but I hope the Panthers can still sneak into the Dance.

[trwi7]

but I hope the Panthers can still sneak into the Dance.

19-13 record with a 93 RPI. I don't see that happening.

[danzig6767]

Bummer for Jeter, he seems like a great guy. It would have been nice to see him win a NCAA Tournament bid, but i see no chance that they get in now.

 

For whatever reason, i can't get into following UWM close even though i live in the area. Tonight was the first time i watched them this year and as soon as the Marquette game started, i only tuned into the UWM game during commercials of the MU game. It was ugly to watch when i did watch.

 

I am curious to see what will end up being the career of Jeter going forward? He's been at UWM for 5 years now and while his teams have generally been really solid, he's 101-88 and will have just one NIT berth on his resume. Going forward it won't be easy to for Jeter to build the program to where they win consistently enough and get to the NCAA Tournament a couple of times to where he'll be attractive to a team in a major conference, especially with Butler in the Horizon conference. Plus, it's not like there is a ton of fan support for the Panther program.

 

As for Marquette, good to see them lock up a tourney bid tonight even though i can't see them winning more than one game in the NCAA Tournament. They just have to many problems at PG and defense, especially at defending the three point shot.

[Glennron]

UWM made the second round of the NCAA's Jeter's first year, eventually getting crushed by soon to be National Champion Florida.

[Hofbraunhaus]

Anyone else see the end of the Rutgers - St. Johns game? Without a doubt the worst reffing I've ever seen. A bunch of missed calls and then they simply ignore that there is still 1.7 seconds left as the St. Johns player runs out of bounds without dribbling and throws the ball in the air in a 2 point game. Terrible.

[trwi7]

Anyone else see the end of the Rutgers - St. Johns game? Without a doubt the worst reffing I've ever seen. A bunch of missed calls and then they simply ignore that there is still 1.7 seconds left as the St. Johns player runs out of bounds without dribbling and throws the ball in the air in a 2 point game. Terrible.

Yep. Just absolutely ridiculous. The refs checked out after that no call on the Rutgers drive.

[trwi7]

http://www.youtube.com/wa...&feature=player_embedded

 

There's video of it. Just an absolute screw job. Those refs should be fired.

[TooLiveBrew]

Wow, there's mailing it in, and then there's that.

[crewcrazy]

Of course, it being New York, there's some speculation that gambling may have played a role already. O/U at one point was apparently 128.5 (although it was constantly moving). Final score was 65-63.

 

Doesn't help that St. John's benefited, considering the tournament is in "their" building.

[joshua502000]

Did anyone else catch the Long Island vs Robert Morris? There was a kid with a black baseball cap with the old Brewer logo on it wearing a white t-shirt. I think he was a Long Island fan. I saw it with about 2 minutes left in the game.

[danzig6767]

Of course, it being New York, there's some speculation that gambling may have played a role already. O/U at one point was apparently 128.5 (although it was constantly moving). Final score was 65-63.

Stuff like that is why i no longer gamble a lot on sports beyond making 10-50 dollar bets with friends on certain games to make them more fun to watch or say on a NHL/NBA playoff series so i have a team to cheer for.

 

In my younger days before the internet was huge with all it's ways to bet online now, my cousin had a bookie and i'd bet a lot on various sports. For awhile it was fun, but not only did any losing streaks take a big toll mentally, losing bets where a spread was involved and crazy nonsense happened like in this game were just torture on me. I'd find myself not being able to get losses out of my head when refs or some fluky play cost me cash. Sports and enjoying just the outcomes kinda stopped being fun besides how it affected me financially. Teams winning or losing didn't matter anymore, just did they cover the spread or not.

[Hofbraunhaus]

Great win by Marquette last night. Even though they were probably already in, this secures their spot. The only downside is a possible higher seed now. Looking at Lunardi's bracketology (which I realize isn't exactly how things will look on selection sunday), he had them as a 10 seed yesterday playing Temple and then facing a Davies-less BYU in the 2nd round. He now has them as a 9 seed against Missouri and then they would have to face Pitt, a 1 seed. If they do move up to a 9, it could make their path a little more difficult.

[jjfanec]

Great win by Marquette last night. Even though they were probably already in, this secures their spot. The only downside is a possible higher seed now. Looking at Lunardi's bracketology (which I realize isn't exactly how things will look on selection sunday), he had them as a 10 seed yesterday playing Temple and then facing a Davies-less BYU in the 2nd round. He now has them as a 9 seed against Missouri and then they would have to face Pitt, a 1 seed. If they do move up to a 9, it could make their path a little more difficult.

It was a nice win for them. I think they are pretty even with WVU, Cincy, Villanova and even Georgetown without Wright, but they just could not close out games. They almost threw it away last night - literally - but WVU forced a shot after the steal they got. Louisville, Cuse, UConn, and St Johns (who could be in that prior group) are the next level. Then Pitt and ND are the tops of the division.

 

You are right that Marquette wants to avoid the 8-9 sead if they can. I dont think they could face Pitt in the second round though could they? I thought conference teams could not meet in round 2 or is that impossible this year with all the Big East teams. BYU or SDSU would be great second round match ups for Marquette.

[TooLiveBrew]

They almost threw it away last night - literally - but WVU forced a shot after the steal they got.

 

Wasn't WVU still down three when they took that two-point shot?

[jjfanec]

They almost threw it away last night - literally - but WVU forced a shot after the steal they got.

 

Wasn't WVU still down three when they took that two-point shot?

Yeah, but Marquette had the ball up 3 with 20 to play and threw it away on an in bounds. If WVU is patient they either have a chance to tie or get within one and put Marquette on the line with plenty of time to play. I am not belittling what Marquette did to comeback, but that play reeked of what happened to them all year. This time the other team did not make a shot though. Marquette did a good job playing defense on the play but he in bounds pass was terrible.

[LouisEly]

I dont think they could face Pitt in the second round though could they? I thought conference teams could not meet in round 2 or is that impossible this year with all the Big East teams.

 

They can't meet in the 2nd round. If more than 8 teams from a conference are in the tourney then obviously you can't just place them in the 1 side and 2 side of each region, but they would then in this scenario make Marquette a 12 seed and not play Pitt until the 3rd round. Or they would have one Big East team as a 6 and another as a 10 so they wouldn't meet until round 3. But I'm pretty sure you are right in that they can't have two teams from the same conference meet in the 2nd round.

 

If I had to wager a guess I'd say Pitt a 1, ND a 2 (paired w/either Duke or UNC as the 1), Syracuse & Louisville 3's, St. John's a 4, UCONN a 5, Georgetown a 5, WVU a 7, Cincinnati an 8, and Villanova and Marquette 11's. You could pair Pitt, WVU, & Villanova, ND and Georgetown, Syracuse & Cincy, Louisville & UCONN, and St. John's & Marquette, and none would potentially face each other until the 3rd round.

[crewcrazy]

I don't think Pitt ends up as a #1 after losing to UConn today. Not that it's a bad loss, just that other contenders for a 1 seed figure to play into this weekend.

 

Kemba Walker is a beast.