The Walking Dead (New Show On AMC)

[homer]

**MINOR SPOILERS IN POST**

 

So, it came back tonight and I've decided to give it the rest of the season to see if I stick around, but Laurie's move was so stupid I almost popped the bubble. Here's a re-enactment of it.

 

Everyone: This woman is sick, we need Herschel.

Rick and Glen: We'll go get him from town.

*5 minutes later*

Laurie: I'll go to town without telling anyone so I can tell Rick and Glen, this woman is sick, we need Herschel.

 

 

I think it was more she wanted to go get Rick rather than Herschel. In any event, her leaving now gives us a nice cliffhanger for next week.

 

I thought that scene in the bar was really well done. The non fat guy from Philly played his part perfectly.

 

I think someone needs to get offed pretty soon. Hopefully its the guy with the beard that hates Shane. He annoys me.

 

EDIT: it was a bar not a diner

[Raw Biz]

 

I thought that scene in the diner was really well done. The non fat guy from Philly played his part perfectly.

 

That was Michael Raymond-James, an awesome actor who was in True Blood and Terriers. His work on True Blood was really good. When I saw him, I thought "sweet, they're bringing in another character for the rest of the season." He's such a good actor I didn't think they would want to kill him off right away. But that's exactly what they did. I watched Talking Dead and Glen Mazzara said that was precisely the reason they brought him in because nobody would've expected him to be killed off so quickly. It was a great scene.

[thebruce44]

 

I thought that scene in the diner was really well done. The non fat guy from Philly played his part perfectly.

 

That was Michael Raymond-James, an awesome actor who was in True Blood and Terriers. His work on True Blood was really good. When I saw him, I thought "sweet, they're bringing in another character for the rest of the season." He's such a good actor I didn't think they would want to kill him off right away. But that's exactly what they did. I watched Talking Dead and Glen Mazzara said that was precisely the reason they brought him in because nobody would've expected him to be killed off so quickly. It was a great scene.

 

It took me a little while to place him from Terriers (I loved that show). I was a little disappointed to see him offed, but at least it was nice to see Comic Book Rick.

[pretendastronaut]

It seems fair to state that the past 3 episodes have been strong episodes. Hopefully they can carry it out for the final 3 of this season. I'm really glad to see Rick becoming a strong character finally.

[TURBO]

agreed, great show!

 

What I like is that they have returned to wasting some zombies here and there, when it was all just a drama on the farm, it got a little slow.

 

Love the show!

[razzzorsharp]

It's weird but when they got rid of Daranbot that is when the show starting getting better it seems.

[Raw Biz]

It's weird but when they got rid of Daranbot that is when the show starting getting better it seems.

 

I wouldn't say that at all. The first season was better and that was the one that Darabont did. The main problem was the budget was cut in half and the episodes doubled, meaning less money and less zombies. However, with news that the Governor has been cast for next season, I have high hopes.

[thebruce44]

It has really gotten a lot better in the last few episodes.

[GoudaBrew]

It was a little strange that a large chunk of the cast was absent in the last episode. Maybe that's a common occurrence that I hadn't noticed before, or maybe it's a way to save some money since the show is going through budget cuts.

 

The schism between Rick and Shane is reaching it's tipping point. I've got to think that the group is going to split in two. Hershel's group, Rick, Lori, Carl, Glen and Dale are interested in living in a normalish society and Shane, Andrea, Daryl, and T-Dawg are survivalists. Splitting the group would remove all the drama and tension so I'm sure I'm wrong (unless Shane kidnaps Lori and Carl or something), but I feel like that's the way it's headed.

[pretendastronaut]

Now that it's confirmed they're doing the Governor next season, I would be shocked if they split the group. It's possible, as that does happen in the comic at one point, but only very, very briefly and the situation is far different.

 

My guess, instead of splitting the group, is that Shane doesn't make it to season 3.

 

Next season could be really intense, if you know the Governor storyline. I can't imagine they'll take it anywhere near as far as the comic did though (don't worry, no spoilers for the non-comic book folks). Season 2 is taking the whole season to basically cover about 5 issues. The Governor storyline takes about 21 issues. Either next season will be intense start to finish, or they're going to have to drastically change the story. Or I guess maybe try to extend it out for two seasons, as you could probably divide the whole Governor saga into 3 main parts.

 

Also, I'd guess they finally add Michonne next season, she'll be pretty crucial for that storyline.

[razzzorsharp]

It's weird but when they got rid of Daranbot that is when the show starting getting better it seems.

 

I wouldn't say that at all. The first season was better and that was the one that Darabont did. The main problem was the budget was cut in half and the episodes doubled, meaning less money and less zombies. However, with news that the Governor has been cast for next season, I have high hopes.

 

I thought that first season started high and went down very quickly with the Vatos episode being the worst. I have liked this season a lot better.

[davego]

Ive loved these last three. I wonder if the close of this season will introduce the Governor stoyline?

[thebruce44]

Wow, didn't see that coming.

[GoudaBrew]

That was a weak episode, the last five minutes notwithstanding.

 

Dale was starting to get annoying and his annoyance reached it's pinnacle in this episode so I won't miss his character and his ridiculous ideals.

 

Not a whole lot was learned. We thought Rick was turning a corner, but he wasn't able to pull the trigger...twice.

[pitchleague]

yeah, as one of the "non-readers" of the original graphic novels, I was kind of taken aback by this. Perhaps I missed it, though, but what tore the hole in Dale? Wasn't the zombie's arms/hands up by Dale's head? Or even if they were down by his mid-section, they're powerful enough to just rip open your abdomen? Does this mean that I would be capable of this? I mean, I've gotta be stronger than some undead guy.

 

Oh, and by the way, nice job sheriff's kid. Wonder if he'll own up to it since his character is starting to turn into a punk.

[Raw Biz]

yeah, as one of the "non-readers" of the original graphic novels, I was kind of taken aback by this. Perhaps I missed it, though, but what tore the hole in Dale? Wasn't the zombie's arms/hands up by Dale's head? Or even if they were down by his mid-section, they're powerful enough to just rip open your abdomen? Does this mean that I would be capable of this? I mean, I've gotta be stronger than some undead guy.

 

Oh, and by the way, nice job sheriff's kid. Wonder if he'll own up to it since his character is starting to turn into a punk.

 

In Zombie mythology, they've always been able to rip apart flesh and limbs fairly easily (or at least going back to the Romero zombies). I've wondered why this is myself. Maybe their desire for human flesh is so overpowering it gives them superhuman strength? Whatever the reason, I love it.

 

As for Dale, I'm glad he's gone. He was annoying and IMO, stupid. I don't know if I would've killed the kid but Dale just couldn't realize that the world they knew was gone and everything now turned to survival first and foremost. And I have a feeling that his won't be the last big death this season.

 

edit: I can't stand the sherrif's kid either.

[razzzorsharp]

In the "Talking Dead" show following, they stated that the Zombies fingers were basically sharp bone.

 

Also, the episode was weak but I think the whole point was for us to hate Dale. I did prior already.

[TURBO]

I though this week's show was great!

 

Didn't see the ending coming at all.

[davego]

I didn't hate Dale. He was annoying, but there has to be a character who tries to hold on to the past or thinks of a better life. Dystopian common-fare.

 

I also praised Rick for not shooting the kid. He couldn't with his son standing there, and it would have fundamentally changed him.

[pretendastronaut]

Dale was very grating. I don't know if it's the way they wrote him, or the actor who played him. It's weird, because compared to Dale in the comic, he was perfectly casted, but he doesn't come off near as annoying in the comic. Maybe they just kept it going to long to get to the ending they wanted again.

 

I'd almost call this another wasted episode, but I think Dale is an important enough character to the story, that this episode was actually a watershed episode, signaling a tone change going into season three. When Dale meets his end in the comic, it is after a particularly morality challenging event (not the same in the least as the show) and in reflecting on Dale's death, Rick admits he often though Dale was weak, but in refusing to let their new environment change him and relinquish his humanity, perhaps Dale was stronger than anyone. I think that was the role of Dale's character and going out in the episode he did, championing that position the whole episode, I think is a nod to where the show is going next.

 

Or maybe I'm over-thinking it!

[davego]

Interesting show last night. Looks like a great final next Sunday.

[AJOHNSON104]

The march 11 show was different in that it appears that twice characters turned into zombies despite not being bitten. Not sure where this is going yet, but ideas I had were:

1. They already had a latent version of the virus that kicks in when the body dies.

2. The virus has mutated somehow

3. Some sort of good guys don't get it and bad guys do theory.

 

4. ?

[berniebrewer4life]

The march 11 show was different in that it appears that twice characters turned into zombies despite not being bitten. Not sure where this is going yet, but ideas I had were:

1. They already had a latent version of the virus that kicks in when the body dies.

 

 

My thought exactly.

 

*The CDC Scientist whispered something into Rick's ear at the end of season 1.

*They went out of their way to point out that the two police officer zombies a couple episodes ago had no bites or scratches.

*Randall (the prisoner) became a zombie after having his neck broken. There obviously wasn't any time for a walker to bite or scratch him.

*Shane became a zombie shortly after being stabbed by Rick.

 

Bottom line is, everyone carries the sickness that causes them to become a zombie. If you die, you become a walker.

 

Puts a nice twist on the creation of walkers. Most human victims are almost entirely eaten so they can't come back as walkers because there are no parts left. If thats the case, walker creation would be so few and far between that there wouldn't be many walkers (or new ones). If all you have to do is die to become one, it explains why there are so many walkers and also puts another new worry into the hearts and minds of the living. (as if they didn't already have enough to worry about).

[pretendastronaut]

That is the big take away from last night, and they've hinted at this already. When Rick and Shane went to ditch Randall a couple of weeks ago and got into that fight, Shane had mentioned that the two officers/walkers they killed didn't appear to have bite marks, but then they passed it off as being a result of scratches. Last night they were more in your face about it.

 

My guess would be that, while you can die from a bite from a walker, that's not the part that makes you a walker, instead, most likely it's a virus that already infects the living.

[TURBO]

I can't wait for the last episode. There is no other tv show right now that has me rivited to the television set like this one. (except Survivor, but that is for another thread)

 

At first I was angry that Shane turned into a zombie without being bitten or scratched. I thought they were reaching, just for the effect of Shane being a zombie, but then I remembered what they said about the cops, and it came into view. Hopefully they delve into this a bit more next week, and at least question why it was that Shane was zombiefied so quickly.

 

Will this be a surprise to the group, that you can become a zombie without being attacked by one?

 

Also, my annoyance meter dropped a bit last night for Carl. When he dropped Shane, he became instantly more tolerable, if even for just a moment. I didn't hate Shane, he had merit to a lot of his thoughts, so I wasn't happy to see him go to be honest...