Team by team analysis of Fielder trade partners

[Invader3K]

Problem with Dunn is that we wouldn't even start to consider him until we got rid of Fielder. And that likely won't happen for awhile. If we signed Dunn we're conceding that we are getting rid of Fielder and lose all leverage.

They could claim they are putting Dunn in left, moving Braun to right, Hart to center...using Cain as a backup, and Gomez in the minors. I don't think anyone would buy it though.

[Hate those Rodents]

We have no leverage with teams with Prince anyway.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Problem with Dunn is that we wouldn't even start to consider him until we got rid of Fielder. And that likely won't happen for awhile. If we signed Dunn we're conceding that we are getting rid of Fielder and lose all leverage.

Unless they already have a deal in place for Fielder and Dunn. The Brewers could always trade Hart before then and say we are moving Braun to RF and Dunn to LF. I'm not going to rule it out a possible Dunn signing, because it just makes too much sense.

[brewmann04]

I would not mind Dunn at least we have someone to replace Prince when he leaves for FA.

[Weirdos19]

I'd bat Dunn third, between Hart and Braun. I see him fitting in real well around here.

[Invader3K]

Sounding more and more like Adam Dunn may be close to signing with the Chicago White Sox. Kenny Williams with another of his patented aggressive moves.

[Hate those Rodents]

That stinks. Gavin Floyd was my best hope for getting a #2 starter without getting rid of our top farm talent. I'm almost ready to punt on 2011. I really don't want to trade our prospects, as I don't think adding a Greinke is going to make us a playoff team. If Prince really is undealable, I guess I'd explore a McGehee trade but otherwise just save our money and rebuild for 2012.

[Invader3K]

Yeah, you can kiss that Gavin Floyd idea goodbye, I'd think.

 

There are probably other possible guys out there to trade for, but none that make sense in terms of dealing Fielder. At least that we've heard about yet.

[JohnBriggs12]

That stinks. Gavin Floyd was my best hope for getting a #2 starter without getting rid of our top farm talent. I'm almost ready to punt on 2011. I really don't want to trade our prospects, as I don't think adding a Greinke is going to make us a playoff team. If Prince really is undealable, I guess I'd explore a McGehee trade but otherwise just save our money and rebuild for 2012.

Gavin Floyd isn't a number 2 anyway. At best, he's a number 3. Away from Don Cooper who turned him from a struggling Phillie top prospect into a mid rotation starter, who knows what he'd do?

[Hate those Rodents]

JB, we've already done the 2 vs 3 arguement over Floyd. There are a lot of us that thinks he's a two. Let's just not go there. The bigger issue is I'm not seeing how we get a #2 starter without trading a few top notch farm guys, and even still I doubt we are a playoff team. That said, I'm hoping Doug saves Mark's money this off season as we look to 2012.

[PrinceFielderx1]

I doubt the Brewers trade Fielder unless they have plans to go out and get another bat. I don't believe Gamel is in there future plans and I think they would trade him the first chance they get. With that said, all the FA bats are going to get big paydays (Crawford and Werth). I see Fielder staying a Brewer till mid-season because the Brewers simply don't have another bat in their system to replace him and they don't have the funds to get another big time bat and there is no demand for him, because there are a lot of other alternatives out there.

 

The fact that Dunn is now off the table means the Brewers are more likely to keep Prince Fielder. It's going to be more and more likely that the Brewers keep Fielder once players like Crawford, Werth and Beltre get signed with other teams. The only scenario that I think could allow the Brewers to trade Fielder is if they got a 1B or a good offensive player along with a pitcher in a trade.

[TooLiveBrew]

One idea to try as a potential Fielder replacement & stopgap would be Jack Cust, who was non-tendered by the A's. I admit I don't know if there's something health-wise that forces Cust to DH, but Daric Barton has the reputation of being a good defender at 1B, so it's not like there wasn't a performance reason for Cust to DH.

 

Cust doesn't look like a true HR threat anymore, but he's played the past 4 seasons in a pitcher-friendly division. On top of that, his worst monthly OBP in '10 was .381; his worst OBP in the past 4 seasons was .356. Fwiw (probably not much), Bill James is projecting a .242/.377/.428/.805 line for him next season. The A's re-signed him to a 1 yr./$2.65M deal last January... I'd guess 1 yr./$5M or so would be enough to land him for '11. You'd need to find a RH swinging half of a platoon, but those guys shouldn't be too hard to find at 1B/the corner spots.

[logan82]

You'd need to find a RH swinging half of a platoon, but those guys shouldn't be too hard to find at 1B/the corner spots.

 

Corey Hart.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Red Sox talking Adrian Gonzalez deal,

 

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This might actually help the Brewers when it comes to trading Fielder if Gonzalez gets traded and signed long term, because I guess a lot of teams are interested in Gonzalez. Once Gonzalez is off the table DM should be getting some more phone calls this off-season and mid-season 2011. It will also obviously help Fielder get an even bigger payday.

[BrandonBurns]

As free agency plays out, I'd have to think that Baltimore is going to make a play for Fielder. They've missed out on Martinez and Dunn and seem to want to make a big move. Not sure if they have the pitching that DM is looking for though.

[TooLiveBrew]

I don't understand why Baltimore would want to make that kind of deal, but I welcome any & all suitors for a Prince Fielder trade with open arms.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Baltimore has an offer out to Konerko, but the word is that the White Sox are the favorite to re-sign him. Baltimore has already lost out on Dunn and V Martinez and if they lose out on Konerko they might come calling for Fielder.

[logan82]

Is it odd that I am looking forward to a Fielder trade? I feel stagnation with the current Brewers team and feel that post Fielder will be the next step to building a better team.

[And That]

Yah, but why would Baltimore want Fielder for one year? The rest of those guys - Konerko, Dunn, V-Mart - would have been around Baltimore for more than one year. I doubt anything happens with the Orioles.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Logan your not odd at all. Though, I'd have to say I don't think this Brewers team will be a better team or something special till they can get some young top pitching to the Majors from the draft or by trade. I have thought this for years. A Fielder trade could very well jump start this Brewers team and get them pitching quicker, but I don't think that it all revolves around the return the Brewers get from Fielder. Quite frankly, I don't think trading Fielder is an absolute must. The Brewers in a perfect world could trade prospects for an ace pitcher, and use some of the 30 or so million to get a middle of the rotation starter and keep Fielder and go for it next season. If it's not working out by July then trade Fielder or if it does work out take the first round picks.

[nate82]

Yah, but why would Baltimore want Fielder for one year? The rest of those guys - Konerko, Dunn, V-Mart - would have been around Baltimore for more than one year. I doubt anything happens with the Orioles.

Trade wise no but I do see both the Orioles and Nationals being big time spenders for Prince on the FA market though in the end I think the Cubs out bid everyone and take Fielder.

[PrinceFielderx1]

Red Sox and Padres close on a Adrian Gonzalez trade,

 

SATURDAY, 12:01am: The two clubs are "close" to making a deal, tweets Dan Hayes of the North County Times. Hayes also mentions that the trade would just involve Gonzalez and not Heath Bell, whose name has come up in other rumors.

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[paul253]

http://sportsillustrated....lez/index.html?eref=sihp

 

This article says Boston is trying to get A. Gonzalez, and that three other teams (I believe the Nationals, Mariners, and Cubs) are interested as well. I certainly hope Melvin isn't sitting by his phone waiting for it to ring. He should be calling these teams and actively shopping Fielder. What about Fielder to Seattle for Pineda? To Washington for Jordan Zimmerman? Forget the Cubs, they have nobody I like but Baltimore maybe? Heck I'd even call Tampa. If we pay enough of his salary for them and they get two picks in return, it might be possible to get two younger pitchers from them (two of Mcgee, Colome and Torres?) The Brewers should be calling these teams and saying "You'll get Fielder for less than it will take to get Gonzalez. He'll be cheaper to re-sign. And although defensively he's not as good, offensively I believe he is".

[And That]

It looks like Boston is going to land Gonzalez. I'll be looking at the haul San Diego gets for him. If the Brewers can't get something similar, they probably shouldn't do it.

[And That]

What about Fielder to Seattle for Pineda?

That's not realistic, but Fielder plus Peralta probably gets close. Jack Z. has to be feeling the heat to improve the offense.