Felix Hernandez

[RockCoCougars]

I'm trying to get creative to find ways to bring a legit pitcher to Milwaukee without overpaying in free-agency. Here is an idea that's been kicking around in my head. Jack Z. supposedly loves Brett Lawrie and took Mark Rogers in the first round. I think that it makes sense to offer him Fielder/Lawrie/Rogers this offseason for Hernandez (if Jack Z. still has his job). Hernandez is under control for I believe 4 more years at a pretty reasonable price and would bring a legit ace to the Brewers. I'd even consider taking back a bad contract with him if that's what it takes (can Milton Bradley play right?). Obviously the Mariners just acquired Smoak, but he could DH in the near term. This may also appeal to the Mariners because they could try to flip Prince for even more prospects at some point.

 

Does anyone think that the Mariners may go for this, and do you think the Brewers would do it?

[bill hAll Star]

Above-average offense with a few holes(craters) in it + 2/5 great pitching, 3/5 AAA-quality pitching + worst defense in baseball = 75 wins tops.

 

Giving up Lawrie would also kill the future.

[GAME05]

it's an interesting thought. if i were JZ i'd probably make the trade, even though that would leave them with nothing for pitchers.

 

but even if you figure in that Prince isn't traded and we take the Comp picks, that's giving up four first-rounders. with the real risk that any pitcher gets some injury or just falls off a cliff ability-wise, four first-rounders is sure a lot.

[nate82]

I'm trying to get creative to find ways to bring a legit pitcher to Milwaukee without overpaying in free-agency. Here is an idea that's been kicking around in my head. Jack Z. supposedly loves Brett Lawrie and took Mark Rogers in the first round. I think that it makes sense to offer him Fielder/Lawrie/Rogers this offseason for Hernandez (if Jack Z. still has his job). Hernandez is under control for I believe 4 more years at a pretty reasonable price and would bring a legit ace to the Brewers. I'd even consider taking back a bad contract with him if that's what it takes (can Milton Bradley play right?). Obviously the Mariners just acquired Smoak, but he could DH in the near term. This may also appeal to the Mariners because they could try to flip Prince for even more prospects at some point.

 

Does anyone think that the Mariners may go for this, and do you think the Brewers would do it?

The Mariners wouldn't go for this at all. The best option would be to trade Lawrie/Gamel to the Mariners for Pineda.

 

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	Lev	Aff	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	WHIP	H/9	HR/9	BB/9	SO/9	SO/BB
2008	19	Wisconsin	MIDW	A	SEA	8	6	.571	1.95	26	21	0	1	1	138.1	109	38	30	7	35	0	128	5	3	6	551	1.041	7.1	0.5	2.3	8.3	3.66
2009	20	2 Teams	2 Lgs	A+-Rk	SEA	4	2	.667	2.66	12	10	0	0	0	47.1	31	16	14	3	6	0	52	6	0	2	178	0.782	5.9	0.6	1.1	9.9	8.67
2009	20	Mariners	ARIZ	Rk	SEA	0	0		0.00	2	2	0	0	0	3.0	2	0	0	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	10	0.667	6.0	0.0	0.0	12.0
2009	20	High Desert	CALL	A+	SEA	4	2	.667	2.84	10	8	0	0	0	44.1	29	16	14	3	6	0	48	6	0	2	168	0.789	5.9	0.6	1.2	9.7	8.00
2010	21	2 Teams	2 Lgs	AA-AAA	SEA	11	2	.846	2.62	20	20	0	0	0	117.0	93	38	34	4	27	1	124	7	0	2	475	1.026	7.2	0.3	2.1	9.5	4.59
2010	21	West Tenn	SOUL	AA	SEA	8	1	.889	2.22	13	13	0	0	0	77.0	67	23	19	1	17	1	78	4	0	2	316	1.091	7.8	0.1	2.0	9.1	4.59
2010	21	Tacoma	PCL	AAA	SEA	3	1	.750	3.38	7	7	0	0	0	40.0	26	15	15	3	10	0	46	3	0	0	159	0.900	5.8	0.7	2.2	10.4	4.6

[dadofandrew]

What metric shows the Crew to have the worst defense in MLB? UZR/150 has them -5, underwhelming at best, and yawn inducing.

[rcon14]

I'm trying to get creative to find ways to bring a legit pitcher to Milwaukee without overpaying in free-agency. Here is an idea that's been kicking around in my head. Jack Z. supposedly loves Brett Lawrie and took Mark Rogers in the first round. I think that it makes sense to offer him Fielder/Lawrie/Rogers this offseason for Hernandez (if Jack Z. still has his job). Hernandez is under control for I believe 4 more years at a pretty reasonable price and would bring a legit ace to the Brewers. I'd even consider taking back a bad contract with him if that's what it takes (can Milton Bradley play right?). Obviously the Mariners just acquired Smoak, but he could DH in the near term. This may also appeal to the Mariners because they could try to flip Prince for even more prospects at some point.

 

Does anyone think that the Mariners may go for this, and do you think the Brewers would do it?

The Mariners wouldn't go for this at all. The best option would be to trade Lawrie/Gamel to the Mariners for Pineda.

 

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	Lev	Aff	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	WHIP	H/9	HR/9	BB/9	SO/9	SO/BB
2008	19	Wisconsin	MIDW	A	SEA	8	6	.571	1.95	26	21	0	1	1	138.1	109	38	30	7	35	0	128	5	3	6	551	1.041	7.1	0.5	2.3	8.3	3.66
2009	20	2 Teams	2 Lgs	A+-Rk	SEA	4	2	.667	2.66	12	10	0	0	0	47.1	31	16	14	3	6	0	52	6	0	2	178	0.782	5.9	0.6	1.1	9.9	8.67
2009	20	Mariners	ARIZ	Rk	SEA	0	0		0.00	2	2	0	0	0	3.0	2	0	0	0	0	0	4	0	0	0	10	0.667	6.0	0.0	0.0	12.0
2009	20	High Desert	CALL	A+	SEA	4	2	.667	2.84	10	8	0	0	0	44.1	29	16	14	3	6	0	48	6	0	2	168	0.789	5.9	0.6	1.2	9.7	8.00
2010	21	2 Teams	2 Lgs	AA-AAA	SEA	11	2	.846	2.62	20	20	0	0	0	117.0	93	38	34	4	27	1	124	7	0	2	475	1.026	7.2	0.3	2.1	9.5	4.59
2010	21	West Tenn	SOUL	AA	SEA	8	1	.889	2.22	13	13	0	0	0	77.0	67	23	19	1	17	1	78	4	0	2	316	1.091	7.8	0.1	2.0	9.1	4.59
2010	21	Tacoma	PCL	AAA	SEA	3	1	.750	3.38	7	7	0	0	0	40.0	26	15	15	3	10	0	46	3	0	0	159	0.900	5.8	0.7	2.2	10.4	4.6

Please Gamel and not Lawrie.

[nate82]

Please Gamel and not Lawrie.

It would probably have to be Lawrie I am assuming unless Jack Z really loves Gamel. But I would give up Lawrie for an ace like pitcher in Pineda.

[trwi7]

Yep. It would suck to lose Lawrie, but if we can get Pineda for him, I'd do it and not think twice about it.

[wibadgers23]

Yeah, Pineda's numbers are sick and he's only 21 years old. Could you imagine him and Gallardo for at least the next five or so years together?

[Bankjob]

Seattle would be crazy to trade Felix. He just signed a 5 year contract before the season. It just does not make any sense. It would be as ridiculous as us trading Ryan Braun a year after he signed his contract. It is just not going to happen under any circumstances.

 

We can dream, but there is no prayer of this.

[TwinsBrewersWorldSeries]

Why would Seattle ever consider dealing Pineda? Yeah, he's look great with Gallardo in our rotation, but he'd look great with Felix in Seattle as well.

 

Good Young Pitching is worth more than good young hitting