4 random baseball questions (contracts, pitching, foul tips, and baserunning)

[Diskono]

Tom Trebelhorn did this once in the late 80's. A game in Toronto? Put the RP at firstbase just in case, but the second RP recorded the game's final out.

Yep, Chuck Crim vs Toronto. Started the inning, then moved to 1B while Tony Fossas pitched to one batter, and then finished the inning. Got credit for the save, too:

 

http://www.baseball-refer...s/TOR/TOR198906060.shtml

[amt2138]

When not to lead off... With a man on first and a 3-0 count down by three runs late in the game. Or even weak hitter/pitcher up with a 3-0 count. I guess if the base runner was extremely fast and could possibly go first to third on a wild pitch, but if the guys slow taking a lead is pretty pointless.

 

Both situations assume the take sign is on.

[topper09er]

Yeah, it would be a CS, 2-3. On your scorecard, that is.

It would only be a CS if the runner at any point was trying to advance to the next base. If the runner just takes a leadoff and is out trying to get back to first it is scored a PO 2-3 in the scorecard. This rule actually costs pitchers many pickoffs because if the runner realizes he is out and goes to second it is a CS.

 

A way to remember it is you can only give a CS if they runner would have been given a stolen base if he was safe, which is not the case here.

 

[Fatter than Joey]

A way to remember it is you can only give a CS if they runner would have been given a stolen base if he was safe, which is not the case here.

 

Right -- The only way you could have a CS2-3, would be if the runner broke for second and fell down (or slowed down) and the catcher threw to first, and somehow the 1b was able to run him down.

[bani1717]

Another random question (I just want to make sure that this scenario is possible).

 

I told my brother earlier this year that I'd like to see a cycle (haven't ever seen one in person), but not just any old cycle. I want a player on the home team (preferrably the Brewers) to have the 1B, 2B, and HR. They come up in the 9th or in extras with a tie game and at least one runner on base. They hit the home run, the guy on base scores to win the game, and the hitter stops at third instead of going home. (Could also happen when down by 1 with 2+ guys on, or down by 2 with the bags juiced).

 

Anyways, if the home run hitter stopped after touching third, would he be credited with the triple he needs for the cycle? Or would it be recorded as a single, since it's not officially a home run?

[topper09er]

He would get a triple if thats where he ran to.

 

A few similar examples come to mind: In the famous Harvey Haddix 12 inn perfect game, in the bottom of the 13th with Felix Mantilla on 2nd and Hank Aaron on first, Joe Adcock hit a walk-off HR, but after the run scored Hank Aaron went to celebrate with adcock between 2nd and 3rd causing Adcock to pass Aaron and be called out and credited with a double.

 

Game 5 of 1999 NLCS, with the game tied and the bases loaded Robin Ventura hit a walk-off granny but stopped after first to celebrate and only got a 1 RBI single.

[RightFieldCoder]

It would count as a triple and a cycle. It would also fuel sports talk for several weeks.