What is wrong with Eric Arnett?

[Diggr14]

I was wondering if anyone goes and sees him pitch regularly. What seems to be his problem, is this a mechanical issue? Is it a mental bug - like Manny Parra? Physical - is his velocity down? Control of secondary pitches?

 

 

It just seems odd that they missed so bad on him. Looking at his year stats, i keep thinking he can't be that bad... they should be able to fix this.

 

Let us know if anyone is a regular at the games or is in the know?

[True CryM]

I was wondering if anyone goes and sees him pitch regularly. What seems to be his problem, is this a mechanical issue? Is it a mental bug - like Manny Parra? Physical - is his velocity down? Control of secondary pitches?

 

 

It just seems odd that they missed so bad on him. Looking at his year stats, i keep thinking he can't be that bad... they should be able to fix this.

 

Let us know if anyone is a regular at the games or is in the know?

I haven't seen him pitch, but it's been noted by others that his velocity has not been what was advertised on draft day. Instead of the mid/low 90's, he's been throwing mid/high 80's. Kevin Goldstein had a writeup on a game of his. I believe he said Arnett was throwing hard, but not locating and that he was visibly frustrated thoughout the game.

 

On the surface it seems like quite a few things are contributing to his poor results. Lack of velocity, poor control and the weight of being a first round pick. Who knows. His last outing was decent. Maybe he'll turn it around.

 

[battlekow]

Rabies.

[sfl2hnq17]

i think after all the innings he pitched at indiana and helena combined we should be glad his arm is still attached. i wish we could get our first round pick from this year signed.

[filthyfrog]

When we drafted Arnett and we heard all about his connection with Tom Crean and his experience on the Indiana basketball practice squad, I started to wonder if all that basketball conditioning was what changed him from a mediocre pitcher into a 1st rounder. And then I wondered what would happen when he was removed from basketball conditioning. It's purely speculation, but I think he just might not be in the same shape he was last spring. Playing basketball and working out with the team all winter puts you in a different physical condition than baseball workouts do.

 

Maybe he just needs to play a different sort of Winter Ball after this season.

[CheezWizHed]

At this point, it couldn't hurt...

[BKsToolbox]

Last night a buddy of mine and I went to Beloit to see the baby brewers play. While talking to the Timber Rattler's bullpen, they said Arnett was being sent back up soon. I haven't seen enough of him to know why his velocity is done so low, but I am thinking filthyfrog might be onto something...

[fleehaw]

Is it a mental bug - like Manny Parra?

 

Please elaborate, what mental bug are you refering to? I have not heard of Parra being diagnosed with anything.

[battlekow]

As trwi7 reported in the Transactions thread, Arnett was promoted back to Wisconsin.

[RockCoCougars]

Looks like he's going to be the worst Brewer 1st round pick since Chad Green, I remember the same sinking feeling when reading about him a year after he was drafted.

[Oldcity]

Looks like he's going to be the worst Brewer 1st round pick since Chad Green, I remember the same sinking feeling when reading about him a year after he was drafted.

Earliest overreaction ever?

[RockCoCougars]

Looks like he's going to be the worst Brewer 1st round pick since Chad Green, I remember the same sinking feeling when reading about him a year after he was drafted.

Earliest overreaction ever?

 

 

How so? It was obvious when Green could barely hit his weight in A ball his first full season that he would never amount to anything. A pitcher with a combined ERA of 7 ish between low A and rookie ball doesn't exactly inspire confidence in his future. If he was a high school kid, I'd cut him a little slack, but a college pitcher drafted in the first round should be better than this. He's not really having control issues either, he's getting hit like Suppan out there.

[twobrewers]

Apparently the Brewer's were impressed with his 7.31 ERA against 5th graders.

[TooLiveBrew]

It's disappointing that Arnett has struggled so much thus far, but Stevo might be right. It's going to take a lot more for me to give up on Arnett. This is his first full season in pro ball -- some guys just don't put it all together right away.

[Oldcity]

Right. It's certainly not encouraging, but it's still his first full season.

[BREWCREW5]

Arnett to the DL. Maybe this is why he has been terrible? What's wrong with him?

[craigharmann]

I'm hoping that in another week or two we're not hearing that Arnett is having to have TJ surgery or something.

[miggs721]

Arnett is a BUST

[Never Outhustled]

Arnett is a BUST

 

 

This site is beginning to need an ignore feature.

 

 

Its almost good news that Arnett is finally being shut down, and his injury addressed. Its been very clear all season that he's not himself. I just hope its not the shoulder. TJ is just a delay, but we'd get the real Eric Arnett back. However, without knowing what the injury is, he might just have a blister.

[logan82]

Arnett is a BUST

 

 

This site is beginning to need an ignore feature.

It has one.

[trwi7]

This site is beginning to need an ignore feature.

Just click on Interact below the person's name and post count and then Ignore User.

 

 

[pete]

He's a big, young kid with talent. He's starting his professional career and doing things like changing mechanics. Why even worry about declaring someone a success or failure at this point?

[sveumrules]

Arnett is a BUST

It's far too early to say obviously but even if that is the case, so what? Heckathorn is looking great so any potential damage is mitigated.

 

In 2001 20 pitchers were drafted in the first round, almost ten years later 11 of them have thrown so much as one big league pitch. That should give you a pretty good idea of the odds you're dealing with when you draft pitching in the first round. Gruler and Everts were drafted 3rd and 5th in 2002. WHO? Sleeth, 3rd in 2003. WHO? Townsend was drafted 8th back to back years, 2004 and 2005. A top 10 pick twice! WHO? Moskos 4th overall in 2007. WHO?

 

Point being pitchers bust all the time for a variety of reasons, even ones drafted far higher than Arnett. If he is a bust, that's the chance you take. There's still plenty of time to prove otherwise, however.

[HiAndTight]

Looks like he's going to be the worst Brewer 1st round pick since Chad Green, I remember the same sinking feeling when reading about him a year after he was drafted.

Earliest overreaction ever?

God you need to get out and read some other message boards! And trust me, this is a COMPLIMENT to this board.

 

I'd worry about being a "baseball snob" on here, but since all of the rest of the posters who post here are, what the hell! Most fans just don't get it. Not just talking about Arnett(And not trying to talk about Stevo, there is some evidence he's going to be a bust) as you see the MJO threads, ESPN threads and others just light up when a guy has a bad months, weeks, or hell, even games/starts(pitchers).

 

I saw a LOT of people who hadn't followed Zach Braddock post a lot of things about him when he first came up and his ERA was inflated from a couple outings in which he gave up a run.

 

I saw people all over Prince when he started out 0-9 with 6 K's and not in that welcomed 'blue font that you use here, but in the red font...as in angry red font.

 

As a fan base, Rickie Weeks was public enemy Numero Uno during his "struggles" and there were calls to "cut him", along with other things, all while he was putting up average offensive numbers for a 2nd basemen. Why? Because most fans don't concern themselves with things like sample sizes, they didn't see Weeks obvious talent, or know his history and the average fan doesn't have the baseball attention span that almost everyone who posts on here has.

With that said, I will NOT proclaim Arnett a bust yet. I also won't call Justin Harrell a bust quite yet, or AJ Hawk, so I probably go to the other extreme.

 

 

That said, when it comes to Arnett, it IS easy to see why a lot of people are writing him off. He hasn't just been bad, he's been completely AWFUL. A 6.5 K/9, 3.9 BB/9, 10.7 H/9, and a 1.66 Whip for a college pitcher in Low A ball screams injury OR huge bust.

 

Now those screams should be dramatically muffled at this point, but to my way of thinking, he has a couple weeks this year, instructional league, and then the first month or two of next year to show ANY signs of life, or I think we need to start seriously considering that he was a terrible pick(not terrible decision to pick him, but ultimately a bad pick) and resolve ourselves to the fact that any modicum of success is a bonus...again, that is if he doesn't show anything by next May or so.

[HiAndTight]

Is it a mental bug - like Manny Parra?

 

Please elaborate, what mental bug are you refering to? I have not heard of Parra being diagnosed with anything.

This isn't in blue, so I don't think you're being sarcastic.

 

What he's referring to is Parra's tendancy to seemingly break down anytime something doesn't go his way, and his apparent lack of confidence when he's out there in himself and in his stuff. He's stuff is as good as Gallardo's, and his control coming up through the minors was as good, if not better than Yo's, and he's a kid you can see throw a 1-1 splitter that makes the hitter look like an absolute fool and send the bat 15 rows up behind the dugout, and he can come back and groove a 94 MPH fastball waist high and right down the shoot.

 

Those are the mental issues that seem to have marred Parra's career this far and threaten to relegate him to a mediocre to bad big league starting pitcher.

 

The good news is often times with kids like him, they start to have some success, it builds upon itself and he can turn it around in a hurry. So hopefully that's what'll happen here.