Milwaukee Bucks 2010/2011

[Diskono]

Yeah, while the 2011 FA list isn't super impressive, I do see quite a few players who might be good fits for the Bucks.

[FVBrewerFan]

I see players who could help the team in 2011, just not a stud that can put them over the top. Maybe the best move the Bucks could make is trading up in the 1st round of the draft next year. One of the top 1 or 2 picks, whoever that may be. Only problem with that is it's a PR nightmare for bad teams to trade away the tope pick pick in the draft, no matter what they get back for it.

 

Who knows, maybe this Bucks team has all the pieces in place, they just need a couple years of playing together. You have a nice mix of known factors in Bogut, Salmons, Gooden, Maggette, DelFino. Jennings who could turn into a star. Then you have guys with the potential... Ersan, CDR, Sanders, Hobson, etc.

 

For all we know, one of those guys could become another star or close to it. With the supporting cast they have, that could be enough to be a serious contender, especially with Skiles focus on defense.

[trwi7]

Next years draft is awful, that would not be the draft to trade up in. The consensus #1 pick next year is Harrison Barnes and I'm not sure he would've been taken in the top 5 this year.

[Gobias Industries]

It seems the roster is set. I think we're still one dead eye shooter away from going deep in the playoffs though. I wish we could of signed reddick instead of gooden. With the additions of Brockman and Sanders, and progression in Ers and Lrmam, I think we're fine without gooden.

[razzzorsharp]

Dead-eye Shooter, isn't that Redd?

 

I am kinda kidding but if he could somehow be the 3 point specialist only, it would be nice.

[FVBrewerFan]

What we forget is that Gooden will be the backup center. he may start alongside Bogut, but depending on who they're playing, I would suspect Gooden will be on the floor most of the time when Bogut is on the bench. Not to mention if Bogut is injured again, Gooden is a decent answer to start at center. Sanders, Brockman, Ersan, etc. can't fill that role.

[Eddiehitsthefoulpole]

I had heard that Redd's agent is out looking for potential trading partners. I heard that before it was announced that he was having troubles with his re-hab. I have also heard that if the knee continues to be a problem that he may retire.

[Outlander]

The NBA is very, very strict in matching contracts for trades, and draft picks are worth exactly $0 in trades. So, what it comes down to, is, would the Bucks be willing to take on a bad contract + a young guy in exchange for giving the other team a shot at Carmello Anthony next year?

 

I believe that has been changed as teams below the cap can acquire more salary than they give away as long as they as they are still below the cap after the trade. So there could be a team willing to take on more salary this year if it relieves them of salary in future years.

[Baldkin]

You are correct in that, but there's a big difference between being under the salary cap and under the luxury tax.

Teams under the salary cap may make trades as they please, as long

as they don't end up more than $100,000 above the salary cap following

a trade. But if a team is over the cap, or they are under the cap and

a trade would take them more than $100,000 over the cap, then an

exception is required. An exception is the mechanism that allows a

team to make trades or sign free agents and be over the salary cap.

Since teams are usually over the salary cap, trades are usually

accomplished using exceptions.

 

[danzig6767]

It seems the roster is set. I think we're still one dead eye shooter away from going deep in the playoffs though. I wish we could of signed reddick instead of gooden. With the additions of Brockman and Sanders, and progression in Ers and Lrmam, I think we're fine without gooden.

Yea for me, that signing of Gooden is the biggest wildcard for both how good the team ends up being this year and how we'll feel about this offseason for Hammond a few years down the road. Ideally, Gooden will be solid for the Bucks this year and next, but Sanders develops well over that time and then someone is willing to take Gooden's contract off our hands.

[rwa12]

I don't see the problem with the Gooden signing. He is a solid consistent player, and brings some toughness underneath that is lacking. If Sanders and others develop, he has a very tradeable contract.

[trwi7]

Drew Gooden doesn't bring toughness.

[Roscoe Chill]

Once again, Drew Gooden was signed for the midlevel exception. Any talk of how bad of a contract he has, or if it's a GM defining signing, is a bit dramatic. I just don't see why some people are so upset about it. Have you seen some of the other signings this summer around the league? Have you looked at what some players are making and their production in comparion to Gooden around the league?

[Paulus88]

I don't think it's the size of the contract that bother's people (especially seeing what Darko and Amir Johnson got) it's the length and guaranteedness that seem like overpaying. Gooden's been around for awhile, how good is he going to be in five years? No one want's to have another Gadzuric-like contract.

[FVBrewerFan]

Ok, then I'll ask again. If you don't like the Gooden deal, who is the backup center on this team?

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

Ok, then I'll ask again. If you don't like the Gooden deal, who is the backup center on this team?

Gotta think it'd be Brockman now.

I like the Gooden deal a lot. Having another post option that can play both on the block or face up 15 ft out will free up Bogut a ton. Andrew is already a very good passer for a center, and they can work the high-low game.

Maggette was the one that had me curious, but at this point Hammond has earned the benefit of the doubt. They're deep 1-12.

 

[Paulus88]

I thought he was our starting power forward? He may not even be the backup center. I don't know if this has been posted here or whether I read it on Real GM but Gooden hasn't been particularly good playing the center position and has stated that he doesn't like playing the center position. I hope the Bucks didn't give him that contract because he physically can play center and backup Bogut. They could sign any stiff to be the backup center, or go with Brockman or Sanders or re-sign Thomas.

[JJHardy7]

I don't think it's the size of the contract that bother's people (especially seeing what Darko and Amir Johnson got) it's the length and guaranteedness that seem like overpaying. Gooden's been around for awhile, how good is he going to be in five years? No one want's to have another Gadzuric-like contract.

 

I'm not saying I love the deal, but like NDOG is saying it's not that much money on an annual basis.

 

Also, the Danny G comparison is just off. Gooden has been much better than Danny G. I agree that I'm not sure how good he'll be in 5 years, but he should be solid the next few years. That annual salary won't kill the team. He can always be dealt as well...

[homer]

Ok, then I'll ask again. If you don't like the Gooden deal, who is the backup center on this team?

Great point. Given Bogut's injury history it's a smart move to have a solid backup and it would have been asking a lot of Sanders to take on that role for a playoff team.

 

And I'm not all that comfortable with a 6'7" backup center even if he plays bigger than that.

[phxMILWfan]

Brockman would be the shortest center in the league if he is the back up. He's 6'7". I think they will use him like they used Darvin Ham at first. Just come in, use his fouls, dive for loose balls and rebound. Skiles will throw him in there when the team isn't giving enough effort.

[Gobias Industries]

Ok, then I'll ask again. If you don't like the Gooden deal, who is the backup center on this team?

Brockman with a resigned Kurt Thomas? He really enjoyed it here. Hell, Ilyasova could fill in certain nights. I'd rather stick a PF who can actually play in the backup C role than sign a big 7 ft stiff backup like Gadz. If you watched any summer league, it also looks like Sanders could fill in at the 5 if he adds another ten pounds. Huge frame.

 

Once again, Drew Gooden was signed for the midlevel exception. Any talk of how bad of a contract he has, or if it's a GM defining signing, is a bit dramatic. I just don't see why some people are so upset about it. Have you seen some of the other signings this summer around the league? Have you looked at what some players are making and their production in comparion to Gooden around the league?

 

OKC and HOU are the best run franchises and probably have the most advanced FO's in the league. The fact that they stayed out of the craziness speaks volumes to me.

 

I hope Gooden buys into the system but I'm doubting it. That's why I hate going 5 yrs so much. He could very possibly be the #3 or 4 PF after year 1. Plus, as I mentioned, we need a 3 pt specialist badly. I'd have much rather given Reddick 5/32 than Gooden. Anthony Morrow, the best 3 pt shooter in the league, got 3/12 from the Nets. All of the crazy bad contracts were given out before the big 3 signed, which is exactly the opposite of what everyone else predicted.

[Gobias Industries]

Brockman would be the shortest center in the league if he is the back up. He's 6'7". I think they will use him like they used Darvin Ham at first. Just come in, use his fouls, dive for loose balls and rebound. Skiles will throw him in there when the team isn't giving enough effort.

Chuck Hayes is 6'6", and he is strictly a 5 only. Good low post defender too.

[yoshii8]

Brockman's actually 6'7" w/out shoes, so he should be listed at 6'8". He will be just fine playing w/ Gooden, Sanders or Ilyasova when giving Bogut a rest. I love the big man depth on this team w/ Bogut, Gooden, Sanders, Ilyasova and Brockman, I think we will be one of the best rebounding teams in the league.

[homer]

If you watched any summer league, it also looks like Sanders could fill

in at the 5 if he adds another ten pounds. Huge frame.

Yeah but the Bucks couldn't afford to wait to see how Sanders would do in Summer League before making a decision on a backup center.

[Roscoe Chill]

OKC and HOU are the best run franchises and probably have the most

advanced FO's in the league. The fact that they stayed out of the

craziness speaks volumes to me.

I hope Gooden buys into the system but I'm doubting it. That's why I

hate going 5 yrs so much. He could very possibly be the #3 or 4 PF

after year 1. Plus, as I mentioned, we need a 3 pt specialist badly.

I'd have much rather given Reddick 5/32 than Gooden. Anthony Morrow,

the best 3 pt shooter in the league, got 3/12 from the Nets. All of the

crazy bad contracts were given out before the big 3 signed, which is

exactly the opposite of what everyone else predicted.

 

Actually Oklahoma City has a full roster and just signed Royal Ivey to put them at 16. Houston matched an offer to pay Kyle Lowry $6M a year to backup Aaron Brooks, and they paid Luis Scola (who may be a better player than Gooden, but he's also 2 years older) over $9M a year for the next five years. Oh and they will be paying a 37 year old Brad Miller $5M a year in the 2012-2013 season. So, they didn't really stay out of the craziness.

 

I'll say it again, Mid Level Exception. If he's the #3 or #4 PF after year 1, it means that the Bucks have a good problem, not really that Drew Gooden = Dan Gadzuric.