Milwaukee Bucks 2010/2011

[PrinceEatMeat]

So Hammond makes a win-now trade and then drafts another project? Sounds about right. Terrible move. Makes this trade even worse. Rebuild or win-now Hammond? It's gotta be one or the other.

[LouisEly]

A guy who intrigues me for the Bucks second round pick or as a free agent is Gary McGhee of Pitt. Didn't have huge numbers, but when I watched him play he definitely passed the eyeball test - very athletic for a big man (listed 6'11", 250), playing in Pitt's system probably stifles the numbers their players post, but can't knock the competition he played against. Modest numbers (6.9ppg, 7.7 rpg) but I think he's the type of guy who could be a better pro than college player, especially coming out of Pitt, and would make a good backup PF and role player.

[crewcrazy]

I really like Tobias Harris. Already really talented with room to grow and sounds like a smart kid who'll benefit from good coaching. Hard to judge him on his freshman season at Tennessee, considering the mess that went on there.

 

Edit: Adding on, I don't really see him as much of a project as others are making him out to be. He can give some solid production off the bench right away. I'd rather have Harris at 19 than Marcus Morris at 10, or whoever else they were being connected with there.

[Eck17]

The reason I am not that high on him, is that he will either be a steal or a complete bust. I don't see any middle ground. Could he improve? He will for sure, and I hope it works out. It's just that the Bucks have not have had the best track record when it comes to developmental type selections in the draft.

[JJHardy7]

What? The first sentence explains why a rebuild would work. You don't need to make trades, you draft players and they don't have a choice but to come to Milwaukee.

 

They can become free agents and then leave...

 

I read the realgm stuff...mixed bag. Some always hate things, etc.

 

The trade...it depends on how the draft turns out. If it is like we think it is now, moving down 9 spots is not a big deal. If there is a stud we missed, the trade doesn't look so great.

 

People have complained about the guys we traded for a long time...they're gone...and the trade still sucks. I don't get it. I don't like that our GM has to correct his mistakes. I'm not a fan of that at all. I do think this is a trade to rebuild. If we're in the mix this year, we keep them...if not these contracts are probably easier to move than the ones we gave up. It's not a trade that we clearly won (what did we expect...trade these guys for a star?). It just shows you can't miss on free agents and the draft like the Bucks have. You have to clean up the mess and I think we did a little bit of that today. We didn't give up much to get Corey...so that wasn't a big deal. Salmons contract was a bad one and it's gone. SJax should at least make things interesting and he cares...which you could say many Bucks didn't last year.

 

I do like the draft pick though. He's young, etc and is part of what i think now is a rebuilding mode. If Bogut isn't the same and BJ doesn't improve, we'll suck next year. We can at least move the guys we traded for. This is what rebuilding is to a certain extent. We have no clue what moves were on the table, etc...so let's see what happens. I hopd the Bucks 'buy' some more picks and draft more young guys.

[afeter]

salmons was just terrible last year. absolutely awful to watch, so im happy hes gone. I like stephen jackson, but he was born in the 70s. If he really doesn't want to play here, he may just retire.

[valpocrewsader]

Why do I get the feeling that 10 years from now we'll be looking back on "2011 - Pick #10 - Milwaukee Bucks - Jimmer Fredette" with the same frustration as we look back on "1998 - Pick #9 - Milwaukee Bucks - Dirk Nowitzki" today?

[GB12]

Why do I get the feeling that 10 years from now we'll be looking back on "2011 - Pick #10 - Milwaukee Bucks - Jimmer Fredette" with the same frustration as we look back on "1998 - Pick #9 - Milwaukee Bucks - Dirk Nowitzki" today?

You shouldn't have any frustration over Dirk. There was zero chance the Bucks were ever going to take him.

[brettac1]

Yeah, that was pre-arranged just like this one was. Jimmer was never going to play in MKE and neither was Dirk.

[TooLiveBrew]

How is unloading the bad contracts an awful deal?

Because we unloaded bad contracts for more bad contracts?

Ah, I didn't realize. Like I said, very casual fan... and that's probably doing a disservice to the awareness of casual fans.

[TracyThom]

Bucks take the Badgers' Jon Leuer with their second round pick. Interesting selection. I'm curious if Jon will be a 3 or 4 in the NBA.

[brwrsfan]

Bucks take Jon Leuer in the second round. Not sure we needed another big white guy that wants to play like a shooting guard, but it is kinda cool that they picked a Badger. Hope he proves me wrong.

 

Jimmy Butler also went with the last pick of the first round to the Bulls.

[PrinceEatMeat]

Yeah, I agree that we didn't really need Leuer, but it's still cool that we got him. I'll be pulling for him. Really he'll probably just replace Ilyasova, who is likely to be traded. I don't mind that. He's better offensively than Ilyasova, which is what the Bucks need right now. Best comment of the day about Leuer, "If he was from Europe and his name was Jonas Leuersavic, he would have gone top 20."

[Gobias Industries]

I do like the draft pick though. He's young, etc and is part of what i think now is a rebuilding mode. If Bogut isn't the same and BJ doesn't improve, we'll suck next year. We can at least move the guys we traded for. This is what rebuilding is to a certain extent. We have no clue what moves were on the table, etc...so let's see what happens. I hopd the Bucks 'buy' some more picks and draft more young guys.

I doubt Bogut will be worse than last year. Couple that with Jennings not improving, and we're probably right back at the ten spot next year. NBA purgatory.

 

I'd imagine that Leuer is gonna take over the Ersan role (who wants out bad). They're white, tall, and can shoot, but that's where the comparison ends. Ersan is a warrior and Leuer is pretty soft from what I've watched.

 

Edit: I should note, I like the Harris pick. At that spot, I either wanted him or Donata Montejuinasdfkkdf.

[Gobias Industries]

How is unloading the bad contracts an awful deal?

Because we unloaded bad contracts for more bad contracts?

How many "good" contracts did the Mavericks have?

How many Dirk Nowitzki type players do the Milwaukee Bucks have?

 

It's fine to go get a few overpaid, niche players if you have a superstar. You can't get the role players first, and then the superstar next. It just never works that way.

[JJHardy7]

I doubt Bogut will be worse than last year. Couple that with Jennings not improving, and we're probably right back at the ten spot next year. NBA purgatory.

 

I agree, but at the same time I don't see the need to 'blow the team up', etc if Bogut comes back and BJ improves. Not saying that will happen. I just think we do have maybe...maybe...a bit of a base. Not much to build from, but we need to get young guys in and roll the dice. We need to stop extending/signing guys that are fringe players.

 

I like what we did today if we hit on the picks. The NBA draft is becoming more and more like the MLB draft. It's an unknown.

[afeter]

im curous if he'll be in the nba.

[trwi7]

Not Bucks related but this is one of the best tweets I've ever seen.

[valpocrewsader]

Why do I get the feeling that 10 years from now we'll be looking back on "2011 - Pick #10 - Milwaukee Bucks - Jimmer Fredette" with the same frustration as we look back on "1998 - Pick #9 - Milwaukee Bucks - Dirk Nowitzki" today?

You shouldn't have any frustration over Dirk. There was zero chance the Bucks were ever going to take him.

How can you not be frustrated that for a split-second we had rights to a franchise-changing Hall of Famer? I guess you're saying just treat it like we passed on him like the other eight teams before us did, and I understand that, but I can't help but feel a little sick seeing his name listed next to the Bucks as a draft selection knowing we have nothing to show for it. That's all....

 

 

[trwi7]

How can you not be frustrated that for a split-second we had rights to a franchise-changing Hall of Famer? I guess you're saying just treat it like we passed on him like the other eight teams before us did, and I understand that, but I can't help but feel a little sick seeing his name listed next to the Bucks as a draft selection knowing we have nothing to show for it. That's all....

Dallas was going to draft him at 6th, we picked 9th. Dallas took the risk that Dirk would still be there at 9th. We moved up to get Traylor. If Dallas thought we would take Dirk 6th, they wouldn't have traded with us.

 

[RockCoCougars]

I like the Harris pick. Since they made the move that they did earlier today, it seems that the Bucks were targeting him. He has a strong physical resemblance to Shane Battier, so it was a little ironic that the pundits compared their games as well- in that they do everything relatively well. As an 18 year old who was rated a top 5 recruit by some and who scored 15 ppg as a freshman in the SEC, I think there's got to be some upside potential here as well. I kind of expected the Leuer pick, but not sure if he will be a fit in the NBA. It would be cool if he could develop into a Matt Bonner type guy, but he seems a little soft for that. At any rate he's a second rounder so he's a crapshoot by definition. I'm not really heartbroken over any of the guys that went 10-19. I liked Burks, but had Skiles not liked his defensive effort, he probably would have been getting DNP-CD on a regular basis. Obviously this team has a glaring need at SG right now that will need to be addressed, and there's some decent vet free agents out there.

[trwi7]

The Bucks could have dumped Salmons with the 10th pick and gotten Udrih and the 7th pick. Instead they get Charlotte involved and make a lateral Maggette for Jackson move but drop 9 spots. That's horrible asset management by a horrible GM and horrible franchise.

[RockCoCougars]

Why do I get the feeling that 10 years from now we'll be looking back on "2011 - Pick #10 - Milwaukee Bucks - Jimmer Fredette" with the same frustration as we look back on "1998 - Pick #9 - Milwaukee Bucks - Dirk Nowitzki" today?

You shouldn't have any frustration over Dirk. There was zero chance the Bucks were ever going to take him.

How can you not be frustrated that for a split-second we had rights to a franchise-changing Hall of Famer? I guess you're saying just treat it like we passed on him like the other eight teams before us did, and I understand that, but I can't help but feel a little sick seeing his name listed next to the Bucks as a draft selection knowing we have nothing to show for it. That's all....

 

Not completely obscure fact, but a lot of people aren't aware that the Bucks drafted Dr. J as well, back in the day and got no compensation for it because he jumped to the ABA. They drafted him with intent to keep him as well. Imagine that team in the early to mid 70's. Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that the ABA Nets tried to sell him to Atlanta when the ABA was merging with the NBA, and the Bucks took them to court. I think they may have gotten some sort of compensation for him because somehow he ended up with Philly.

[RockCoCougars]

The Bucks could have dumped Salmons with the 10th pick and gotten Udrih and the 7th pick. Instead they get Charlotte involved and make a lateral Maggette for Jackson move but drop 9 spots. That's horrible asset management by a horrible GM and horrible franchise.

Who would they have taken at 7? Everyone out there is falling all over themselves praising Charlotte right now, but I'm a little underwhelmed with their 'haul' of Bismack and Kemba. Bismack is raw and not even cleared to play in the NBA yet, and I think Kemba is overrated. I highly doubt that these two will be the foundation of a championship team.

[crewcrazy]

Still a few interesting undrafted free agents out there. I wouldn't mind the Bucks taking a look at Jacob Pullen, among others. He might be too small and have no idea if he can handle the point in the NBA, but he can shoot.