How much longer for Jeff Suppan? -- Latest: Suppan signs with STL, starts 6/15

[hawing]

That's our Soup! Thanks, Meltdown.

[BrewCrewForever]

This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen to make the incompetent Brewers brass wake up. They gave in to fan panic, and the coaches couldn't fix a problem with mechanics. No patience. They never let Suppan start enough games.

After 3 scoreless innings against one of the worst offenses in MLB and you think it was a mistake to release Suppan? I'm not quite there yet. I don't think anything he does in St. Louis could make me change my mind on how I feel about the worthless Suppan.

[trwi7]

Bradley swings and crushes one towards South America. Rasmus is going to need a rocket up his ass to catch this one. That baby's out of here.

[Funketown]

This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen to make the incompetent Brewers brass wake up. They gave in to fan panic, and the coaches couldn't fix a problem with mechanics. No patience. They never let Suppan start enough games.

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Bradley just took Suppan deep, thankfully.

[BrewCrewForever]

Bradley swings and crushes one towards South America. Rasmus is going to need a rocket up his ass to catch this one. That baby's out of here.

Thank you for the Harry Doyle line. That made me smile. Especially since it was Suppan letting that bomb up for someone other then the Brewers.

[geddymd73]

Quick recovery for Suppan in the 4th. This outing certainly will buy him another start for the Cards. He's throwing a lot of strikes this time.

[geddymd73]

And the Cardinals take the lead. Suppan in line for a rare win.

[hawing]

Jeff hits a double

Scores as Meltdown drops a ball.

Cards fans chanting SOUUUUP.

 

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Edit: Soup comes out after 4, so he can't get a decision.

[geddymd73]

LaRussa did this at the request of Melvin. Too humiliating to have Suppan get a win right after being released.

[thablingster]

LaRussa did this at the request of Melvin. Too humiliating to have Suppan get a win right after being released.

Indeed. Showing up a division rival is not classy.

 

I'd still like to see how Suppan shapes up against a better hitting team. He'll get either Oakland or Toronto in his next start, with Toronto having the advantage of using the DH.

[stalton]

Only 73 pitches. Was LaRussa pulling Soup before the inpending implosion? or did he run himself tired on the basepath

[WisconsinSportsRule]

Suppan got lucky to escape the first. He got the first two guys, but then loaded the bases only to get the last guy out.

 

It's not like he was cruising.

[geddymd73]

Bradley's walk in the 1st was practically intentional. He didn't throw anything close. 2 weak singles in that inning. After that Suppan did an excellent job. 2 of Suppan's 4 hits were defensive swings.

[hawing]

Right now, most if not all theories recently posited in this thread are possible:

 

Pulled before impending implosion

Ran himself tired on basepath

Soup is fixed/Duncan is a genius saint/Everyone in the Brewers' organization sucks

Wait to see how he pitches against a team having a better season than the 2010 Mariners

[TheCrew07]

This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen to make the incompetent Brewers brass wake up. They gave in to fan panic, and the coaches couldn't fix a problem with mechanics. No patience. They never let Suppan start enough games.

Yea because Suppan is a better pitching than Parra or Narveson...

[crewcrazy]

LaRussa did this at the request of Melvin. Too humiliating to have Suppan get a win right after being released.

Indeed. Showing up a division rival is not classy.

 

I'd still like to see how Suppan shapes up against a better hitting team. He'll get either Oakland or Toronto in his next start, with Toronto having the advantage of using the DH.

I'd love to see how Suppan would do against Toronto, who leads all of baseball in HR.

 

You really can't make any proclamations about his start tonight. It was 4 innings, he was pretty lucky to get out of the first inning without any damage, and he's had good 4-inning stretches before with the Brewers. I feel like all of the inevitable "SEE! IT WAS RICK PETERSON'S FAULT!" talk (across the web, not saying it'll happen here) is going to drive me nuts until his next start.

[geddymd73]

This is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen to make the incompetent Brewers brass wake up. They gave in to fan panic, and the coaches couldn't fix a problem with mechanics. No patience. They never let Suppan start enough games.

Yea because Suppan is a better pitching than Parra or Narveson...

Probably better than Narveson right now.

Dang, I wish the Brewers had someone who could go 4 innings with just one earned run. Oh gee, we did.

[Funketown]

Probably better than Narveson right now.

Dang, I wish the Brewers had someone who could go 4 innings with just one earned run. Oh gee, we did.

If we're going to go ahead and judge pitcher only by their most recent start, Narveson went 7 innings with 2 earned in his last outing...

[geddymd73]

Probably better than Narveson right now.

Dang, I wish the Brewers had someone who could go 4 innings with just one earned run. Oh gee, we did.

If we're going to go ahead and judge pitcher only by their most recent start, Narveson went 7 innings with 2 earned in his last outing...

Equivalent starts. Suppan had 4 strikeouts in 4 innings, Narveson 4 in 7 innings.

[Funketown]

Equivalent starts. Suppan had 4 strikeouts in 4 innings, Narveson 4 in 7 innings.

Okay, so their most recent starts were equivalent, but Narveson has pitched far better both this season and last season. I don't see how Suppan can possibly be the better pitcher at this point...

[geddymd73]

Equivalent starts. Suppan had 4 strikeouts in 4 innings, Narveson 4 in 7 innings.

Okay, so their most recent starts were equivalent, but Narveson has pitched far better both this season and last season. I don't see how Suppan can possibly be the better pitcher at this point...

They found the fault in mechanics. Peterson never could. Suppan was never given enough starts this year to establish much as a starter. Each is probably good for 4 runs in 6 innings most of the time. Coming in for spot relief appearances isn't the same. He's getting strikeouts now and more velocity than he ever had here.

[dlk9s]

geddymd73 must be a gimmick account or something. He's got to be leveling us.

[dlk9s]

Mariano Rivera: May 21st vs. Mets - 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER

 

Bill Hall: May 28th vs Royals - 1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER

 

Equivalent outings. Bill Hall is a better pitcher than Mariano Rivera.

[geddymd73]

Mariano Rivera: May 21st vs. Mets - 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER

 

Bill Hall: May 28th vs Royals - 1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER

 

Equivalent outings. Bill Hall is a better pitcher than Mariano Rivera.

Jeff Suppan is a starter and a pitcher. Bill Hall is not, and admits it himself. Using even a smaller sample sample size of outings isn't making much of a point.

I'm a better pitcher than Jason Marquis. We each had 0.0 innings pitched in our last start. Yet, Jason has an ERA of 20.52.

[brewers19]

Using even a smaller sample sample size of outings isn't making much of a point.

The irony of this comment is breathtaking.