Manny Parra to start Tuesday against Reds

[Invader3K]

I like this move. Hopefully Parra can prove himself as a starter again, and I'd rather see him get a start than Suppan.

[TooLiveBrew]

Alright. Now, c'mon Manny, and pound the zone.

 

I give full credit for this move to Emperor Palpatine & my embracing the Dark Side.

[sheethead]

Best option in my opinion. And there IS a such thing as too much Star Wars.

[BrewCrewForever]

Like the move. I would also hope this is Manny's last chance. If he can't show to be a decent starter in this next couple of starts, I think it is time to cut ties.

[TooLiveBrew]

Why wouldn't you want to keep him around as a relief option?

[bklynbrewcrew]

Finally a move I can agree with. I was sure they would take this opportunity to give Suppan another chance. Hopefully manny pitches well and keeps the spot on a permanent basis as he has the best stuff on the roster.

[jimmyjeromehardy7]

Like the move. I would also hope this is Manny's last chance. If he can't show to be a decent starter in this next couple of starts, I think it is time to cut ties.

So after not starting for 2 months and not being stretched out, he gets a 2 game audition to keep a job?

 

 

[BrewCrewForever]

Why wouldn't you want to keep him around as a relief option?

I don't really think he is a relief pitcher. He's a starter, and if he fails again as a starter I think you look to move him. Sure he MIGHT turn it around for someone else, but how much longer do you wait on him here to see that happen? If we are gonna have another lefty in our pen other then Stetter, wouldn't you rather it be Braddock?

 

 

[And That]

I don't really think he is a relief pitcher. He's a starter, and if he fails again as a starter I think you look to move him.

I think that is trading a lefty who throws 95 at a low value point.

[BrewCrewForever]

Like the move. I would also hope this is Manny's last chance. If he can't show to be a decent starter in this next couple of starts, I think it is time to cut ties.

So after not starting for 2 months and not being stretched out, he gets a 2 game audition to keep a job?

 

He has had quite a few opportunites to seize the day and be the starting pitcher we all know he could be, if he fails in this 2 or 3 starts you think it is because he was in a reliever role for 2 months? I'm just not sure how many more chances you give the guy. He has had plenty of time to turn it around and he has not. I hope he goes out and does great, but we'll see.

[monty57]

Finally a move I can agree with. I was sure they would take this opportunity to give Suppan another chance. Hopefully manny pitches well and keeps the spot on a permanent basis as he has the best stuff on the roster.

Agreed. Plus, he's still under Brewer control for a few more years. This is a good year to give him a long leash to see if he can put it together. Right now, I'm all about playing for the future and Manny Parra could be a huge step forward if he can put things together.

 

He is exactly the type guy many on this board are calling for Melvin to trade for. Cutting him if he doesn't show well in two or three starts would be a big mistake.

[TooLiveBrew]

Sure he MIGHT turn it around for someone else, but how much longer do you wait on him here to see that happen?

 

Given the fact that this team doesn't look like a serious contender this season, at least the rest of this season.

 

 

If we are gonna have another lefty in our pen other then Stetter, wouldn't you rather it be Braddock?

 

I like Braddock too, but like Toby noted I sure wouldn't want to arbitrarily sell so low on Manny. We wouldn't be able to get much in return for him, and he's exactly the type of arm this organization needs to take a chance with. So, if the choice came down to keeping Parra or calling up Braddock & jettisoning Parra for a meager return, I'd keep Parra.

 

I don't think Braddock will just be a LOOGY (at least I sure hope he isn't), nor do I think of Parra as one. So there's really no reason they both couldn't be in the Brewers' bullpen. Suppan would have to be DFA'd, which I would not mind in the slightest... but something tells me there's still a slim chance that will happen.

[BrewCrewForever]

I guess just to clarify what I am saying, I like Manny Parra. I want him to do well, he has great stuff. But if he continues to not be able to put it together, at what point do you maybe try to trade him in some kind of package or replace him on your roster with someone that can help? I just wonder how much more time he gets to "figure it out". That is all I am saying.

[BrewCrewForever]

TooLive, I also do not see Braddock as a LOOGY. I think he should be given a chance to close next season.

[And That]

I just wonder how much more time he gets to "figure it out".

He had a bad 2009. Other than that, when healthy, he's been a good pitcher. I'm not sure there's any great chasm between where he is now and where he needs to be to be a solid #3/#4 type pitcher. I would prefer to allow him to try to traverse that thin chasm here, as opposed to sending him off someplace else to do it. Anyway, even if you consider Parra a liability, as long as we're playing sub-.500 ball, he's not amongst our top liabilities.

 

Edit: What if he goes out and dominates his next two-three starts? Do you still bump him back to the pen when Davis is ready to return?

[jeffy]

Very good choice. If they are going to suck this year, they should try to get Manny to develop into the pitcher that many seem to think he can be. If they turn things around, Parra is likely to do no worse than Suppan anyway. Plus it'll be nice to have another starter with some velocity.

[davemakovec]

I like this. If they don't turn it around soon, they're going to be selling at the deadline. If that's the case, give all the young guys with upside try-outs.

 

Hopefully Manny continues his decent start. A power lefty with an ERA under 4 is great, especially a young one with the ability to prove.

[JohnBriggs12]

Bad choice. Manny Parra has been bad since the break in 08. Since then, he's thrown 220 1/3 innings, allowed a whopping 283 hits and 106 walks for a pathetic WHIP of 1.77. Let me correct myself, that's worse than pathetic. Furthermore, he's not stretched out, so he's not going to able to go much beyond 80-85 pitches, which they way he works, is around 4 innings tops.

 

On the other hand, the Brewers had the alternative to bring up Kameron Loe. Loe has averaged 6 1/3 innings per start in Nashville. That's into the 7th inning. When was the last time a Brewer starter got into the 7th? His major league totals are equal to or slightly better overall than Parra's pitching in the AL in a hitters park.

 

Manny Parra is part of the problem. He's not a solution.

[homer]

Loe's not on the 40 man. Who do you kick off to add him?

[TooLiveBrew]

Yes, Kameron Loe. Nothing this team needs more than to find out that he's still completely replaceable.

 

Parra has been very solid in relief, and the Brewers need to find out if he can take another step forward.

[patrickgpe]

I think giving Parra a chance to earn a spot is a solid decision. For those clambering for Capuano, he only made 1 start in Nashville. If Manny struggles and Capuano has another solid start, than you may look at it. Estrada and Loe, while they are pitching well in Nashville, has not doing anything in a major league stint to lead me to believe they are not anything more than Mike Burns or Chris Smith from last year.

[JohnBriggs12]

Loe's not on the 40 man. Who do you kick off to add him?

Are you serious? You have to ask? Take your pick: Suppan or Vargas. Personally, I'd toss off both. Another possible move would be to move Butler to the 60 man DL though I don't know the status of his return. It's possible he's expected back sooner.

 

There should be no issues with the 40 man. Not only do they have candidates to remove now, they likely will have more in coming weeks (Riske). Riske has 3 more weeks to show he deserves to be back or he'll be gone.

[pretendastronaut]

Narveson was just as stretched out as Parra is, when we inserted Narveson into the rotation.

 

I like the move a lot more than the other option of putting Suppan back in there. With the way the season has been so far, we can't do much worse, may as well see what Manny can give us.

[trwi7]

It's a good start. Just keep him in the rotation for the rest of the year. They have to find out sometime if he can be a starting pitcher, there's no better time than now when the team isn't very good and losses don't matter.

[TheCrew07]

Loe's not on the 40 man. Who do you kick off to add him?

Are you serious? You have to ask? Take your pick: Suppan or Vargas. Personally, I'd toss off both. Another possible move would be to move Butler to the 60 man DL though I don't know the status of his return. It's possible he's expected back sooner.

 

There should be no issues with the 40 man. Not only do they have candidates to remove now, they likely will have more in coming weeks (Riske). Riske has 3 more weeks to show he deserves to be back or he'll be gone.

That's a pretty uninformed opinion considering it's been plastered in multiple locations over the last couple of days that both Gamel and Butler would be starting their rehad assignments in BC this week. Not to mention it's in today's Link Report that McCalvey is reporting Josh Butler is today's starter (it was originally posted as Tuesday).

 

Ya, ya, I get you think nothing of Parra and while you have your reasons, to suggest that he has no business being in the rotation is laughable. Parra isn't a finished product, it's way to early to claim he's all he's going to be, stretched out or not. I've been as disappointed in him as anyone, I too question his toughness, but he's got the best arm of anyone on the MLB rotster at this time, and the Parra question needs to be definitively answered one way or the other. I would have had in him the rotation all year and I would leave him in the rotation the rest of the year, I'm as much about developing young players as I am about winning games.

 

At least if you wanted an AAA pitcher I'd say go with Estrada since he's already on the 40 man. We may all want Suppan DFA'd and I never wanted Vargas back, but it's just not going to happen at this point in the season. As much as I want impact pitching and as miserable as I've been watching this garbage, we're still only 1 hot streak away from being .500.