Garnett to Celtics

[brettac1]

sports.yahoo.com/nba/news...&type=lgns

 

Celtics get:

KG

 

T'Wolves get:

Al Jefferson

Sebastian Telfair

Gerald Green

Theo Ratliff

Draft pick

 

Pretty decent haul for the T'Wolves considering they traded him so late. Jefferson's (22) already a solid player, Telfair (22) and Green (21) (especially) have a lot of potential.

[RockCoCougars]

Wow, Jefferson and filler. The Wolves should have made the trade before the draft. They probably could have gotten the 5th pick then.

 

I'm still not sold on the Celtics though. I'd be surprised if Allen plays more than 50 games.

[Crewin06]

I think this is a latteral move.

 

It is hard to win with just 3 players.

 

Especially when the 3 players are all on the wrong side of 30.

[tommyboy42609]

Gerald Green is hardly filler. Ratliff and Telfair, yea.

[tommyboy42609]

Wolves will also pretty much have a top 10 pick locked up for next years draft with the current team. Good move for the future.

[qrk10000]

On paper, this sounds like a pretty good deal for the Celtics. They are desperate to win now and having a 1-2-3 punch of Allen, Garnett, and Pierce should go a longs ways towards helping them do that. Ryan Gomes and Tony Allen are both nice players too. They definitely have a hole at point guard, though. I am guessing they may address that through another trade. It would be a mistake to assume Gabe Pruitt and Rajon Rondo can handle it in 2007/08.

 

As for the Wolves, I also agree that this would have made more sense before the draft. The 1st round pick shouldn't be as valuable next year barring some Celtic injuries. Jefferson is a beast at power forward and should be a good option for years to come. He is definitely the key to this deal. Telfair adds depth at point guard and still has potential. I like Gerald Green and I think he has the chance to become a special player with the Wolves. Ratliff is pretty much just filler. The Wolves needed a little of everything and that is what they got. While this should not get them out of the lottery anytime soon, it should give them something to work with in the post-Garnett era that they have been preparing for for years.

[brettac1]

Ratliff is obviously just to balance out the salaries, I don't see him being around there very long.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Wasn't this deal rumored before the draft, and KG basically said he'd just opt out of his contract as soon as he could if it went down (which I believe is after this season)?

[Roscoe Chill]

Garnett wouldn't accept the trade before the draft, so that's why it didn't happen then. Now, he probably looks at the fact they got Ray Allen and it's a more attractive place to go try and win.

 

Theo Ratliff's expiring contract is probably just as attractive as any player the Wolves got other than Jefferson...not just a salary balancer.

 

And isn't Rajon Rondo a great defensive player at point? Seems to me he fits in well on a team with three of last year's top 20 scorers.

[trwi7]

Sorry you win with superstars in this game. The Celtics now have two (and a second tier star in Allen) this is their conference for the forseeable future.

[danzig6767]

I like Gerald Green and I think he has the chance to become a special player with the Wolves.

 

I don't

 

The times i've seen Green play,he looks like nothing more than a great athlete with a low basketball IQ.Yet another example of a kid who should have went to college and learned how to play basketball.

 

Jefferson is an outstanding young player though and if Garnett was going to bolt after this season,he's a nice young piece to get along with a first rounder.The downside there is the Celtics should be a good team and the draft pick won't be overly valuable.

 

As for the Celtics,nice trade if they can get Garnett to sign an extension which i think he would because they will have his Bird rights.In a weak East,Garnett/Pierce/Allen should be a core that can hang with anyone.

[molitor fan]

The initial post forgets part of the trade - it is Ryan Gomes and 2 1st rounders as well as what is shown according to ESPN ticker

[brettac1]

Wowzers. That wasn't in the Yahoo story.

[jlau20]

I can't wait to see how this works out.

 

KG, Allen and Pierce, if they can work out who gets the ball, could be quite the trio. Of course for the most part the team would be just that trio.

 

It's almost like the beginnings of a 10 team fantasy draft or something, getting three guys like that on one team.

[zingsheim]

I think the Wolves got the deal here. Garnett, I think, isn't that speacial anymore.

[BrewBabyBrew]

I think this is great for Minnesota. They weren't going anywhere in the west with just Garnett anyways. Now they are bursting with "potential" and can compete with the other young western conference teams (Portland, Seattle, Memphis, GS) in a few years.

 

Randy Foye, Gerald Green, Corey Brewer,Ryan Gomes, Al Jefferson. T-Wolves 1st round lottery picks and Boston's next two 1st rounders (trade bait)

 

Good trade for Danny Ainge's job and Minnesota's future.

[molitor fan]

the final trade seems to be with gomes, but i still see differing reports...

 

The best and worst part of this - the Bill Simmons article

 

sports.espn.go.com/espn/p...ons/070730

[Katuluu]

The T-Wolves owe their next two first round picks due to trades. One for Marko Jaric, and I forget who the other was for. Acquiring picks from Boston just means they will actually have first round picks the next two years.

[jwaltz]

The second first rounder was to Boston. That's actually one of the picks they are got back.

 

The trade is now official. Kevin Garnett is now a Celtic.

[dadofandrew]

The T'Wolves were going nowhere, so it's a fine trade for them. Unless BOS goes to the finals, I see this as a loss for them.

[qrk10000]

Wow, Gomes and 2 first rounders now? That is quite a haul for the Wolves. Boston better win 50 games and a round in the playoffs for this trade to work. Yikes! Boston has to resign Garnett in order to save face now. If he walks, they literally have torn apart a big chunk of their team (especially in Jefferson, Gomes, and Green).

 

Danzig, you have to remember that Green is still very young and only started 26 games last season. As you stated, he has a ton of athleticism and as he matures, he should learn to refine that. I have not watched him play enough to question his basketball I.Q. (and being on a train wreck like Boston has been the past few seasons does little to help a young player like Green grow), but I was impressed with his numbers against the Bucks at home.

[trwi7]

Celtics signed Garnett to a 3 year extension.

 

Honestly who is going to beat this starting 5?

 

Rondo

Allen

Pierce

Garnett

Perkins

 

This conference is Boston's for a while.

[whynotthebrewers]

I don't think this does as much as most think. The name power is there but they have an often injured and old allen, a ball hog who takes bad shots in pierce, and now KG. But the rest of their team is not good at all and these guys are not going to play the entire game and when one or more of them is out of the game they are very average. And one gets hurt and they are really really bad.

 

I don't really care about the NBA and casually watch the bucks but this doesn't give the conference to them like I see here. A few guys are not going to win by themselves for an entire year. You need your bench to keep you in the game and they have nobody.

[trwi7]

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The name power is there but they have an often injured and old allen, a ball hog who takes bad shots in pierce, and now KG.

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Allen is old and oft injured? He's only 32 and a shooter he'll be good for another 3-4 years and I guess Allen being oft injured makes Redd oft injured too because Allen has played in 3 more games than Redd the past 3 years.

 

And you want to talk about bad shots? Look no further than our very own Michael Redd who goes into double and triple teams and tries to draw fouls instead of passing out of them. Pierce also helps in rebounding, defending and passing which isn't something you can say about Redd.

 

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But the rest of their team is not good at all and these guys are not going to play the entire game and when one or more of them is out of the game they are very average.

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Pierce, Allen and Garnett have averaged 38 minutes in their entire careers. That's about 80% of the game. I'm sure Doc Rivers will find a way to keep at least one of them on the court at all times. Plus they still have the MLE to work with maybe someone like Brevin Knight or Charlie Bell.

 

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And one gets hurt and they are really really bad.

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You can say that about any team. If Tim Duncan gets hurt the Spurs won't be as good. If Steve Nash gets hurt the Suns won't be as good. If Dwyane Wade gets hurt the Heat won't be very good.

 

Point is the Celtics now have 2 superstars and another all star caliber player. All 3 of those players are better than the Bucks best player. Remember the last time Garnett actually had talent on his team (Sprewell and Cassell) that team went to the Western Conference Finals. Now he's paired with two players better than Cassell and Sprewell in a weaker conference.

[BrewBabyBrew]

Pierce was the only legit scorer on the celts since the days of antoine walker, and even that may be a stretch, thus leading to his poor fg%. He gets boards plays decent D for a top player and his assists will be phenomenal now when he gets doubled boom allen spottin up or KG postin.

 

Also, with those 3 players, what free agent wouldn't want to go play in Boston, or come trade deadline time. They will be like Miami or LA when those teams had the diesel (and Wade/Kobe)....