Lost Season 6...

[pretendastronaut]

I've been spinning the sideways story in my head a lot. Originally I was really reading into the "let go" part of the story line and was assuming it meant something about letting go of the alternate reality, but it occurs to me now, what if Desmond means to let go of their former timeline lives? I'm starting to believe the sideways timeline is the reality we end up in.

 

I'm not sure, but Desmond has been very chipper since he found Penny in the sideways timeline, and he was eager to do what he had to in "our" timeline after seeing the alternate. It would make sense to me, based on his actions, that he's trying to protect the alternate timeline.

 

The trouble with that is what became of the light and Smokey when the bomb went off then? It would stand to reason that the light is missing in the alternate timeline, and that doesn't seem desirable.

[TracyThom]

Here's my theory on how the finale is going to go:

 

The sideways storyline will turn out to be the real lives of the characters and the island storyline is actually the alternative. The sideways life is Jacob's view, aka the side of good. There was a shift in the balance between good and evil, hence the Man in Black's bad island storyline. In the finale, the Man in Black will kill at least one of Sawyer, Kate, or Hurley. He will probably be on the verge of taking out Jack or escaping the island when Desmond will do something at the concert to restore balance to the side of good and everyone will go upon their merry lives.

 

I'm basing some of this theory on Desmond's statement to Hurley that Ana Lucia was not ready to come with them. When you think about it, everything is much better in the sideways storyline for all of our characters except Ana Lucia and Sayid. Even though Kate is in jail, she may actually be innocent this time around.

 

Another theory I have read online, which I like, is that Jack is the new Jacob and Claire will be the new MIB. The last scene will be a rehash of the Jacob/MIB beach scene with Claire telling Jack, "Do you know how badly I want to kill you?"

[homer]

So have we figured out who Jack's wife is in the alternate storyline?

[And That]

A friend of mine is convinced that the MiB's name will turn out to be Aaron.

[pretendastronaut]

Another theory I have read online, which I like, is that Jack is the new Jacob and Claire will be the new MIB. The last scene will be a rehash of the Jacob/MIB beach scene with Claire telling Jack, "Do you know how badly I want to kill you?"

 

 

 

While this would be a fine bookend, I know people who have been predicting this at the beginning of the season (not Claire, but the same scene, and always with at least Jack), so I'm guessing it won't happen that way.

 

That's a good point you raise about Kate too actually.

 

Homer, I'm guessing, since they saved the reveal for the finale, that Jack's wife is going to be Juliet, even though that doesn't really fit with how they've treated the sideways timeline so far. With the exception of Sawyer and Miles, none of the characters knew each other anymore than they did in the original timeline. So for Jack and Juliet to have married and raise a child is a big swing. Not to mention, in the sideways so far, relationships have largely repeated, so I would believe Jack would have married Julie Bowen again. However, Juliet wouldn't have spent years on the island either, so, who knows. Anyway, my guess is that Juliet will be at the concert, and possibly Sawyer ends up there trying to find Kate and meets Juliet and bam, we all get visions of the other life, as the other characters who experienced love did.

[Tisko]

I didn't read the entire thread so this might of been mentioned before, but did anyone else find it weird that the man in black promised Ben the island if he killed some people for him, and then after Ben killed Charles the man in black said that he was going to destroy the island? Wouldn't that upset Ben just a little?

 

Anyways, really, really excited about the finale. My girlfriend will actually be flying over the Pacific Ocean as it airs. I hope that isn't going to be a start to a second version of Lost.

[Tisko]

So is Jacob God and The Man in Black the devil? Interesting line from tonight when Locke said (and I'm paraphrasing): I like the feel of the earth below my feet.

I pretty much ignored that line. I saw it as the writers just covering themselves, because it seems like time is going to be a factor on whether or not the island is "saved" so there really isnt any logical reason in the storyline that he would not turn into the smoke monster to quickly scoot from one end of the island to the other. From the production and writing standpoint it makes sense to have an actual person playing the man in black that can say dialog and doesn't cost a fortune in special effects.

[Tisko]

So have we figured out who Jack's wife is in the alternate storyline?

It has to be Juliet in my opinion. Who else could it be? I've been surprised before though.

[bjkrautk]

Things I'm hoping for in the LOST Finale:

 

- Tom Friendly showing up in the 'alternate' LA (...since he could go off-island well before it sunk into the ocean -- just saw him in another show and realized he hadn't made a curtain call yet).

- Some attempt to explain why the Island is submerged in the alternate world, or when/why the two paths diverged (it had to be before the bomb....otherwise Ben and his father being off-island wouldn't fit.)

- Juliet making her coffee shop appearance. (Don't forget that Julie Bowen's schedule for 'Modern Family' may have prevented her availability, before jumping to the Jack-Juliet conclusion)

- Some explanation why the island has temples and statues with the incorrect number of toes.

- Getting some semblance of payoff for what Desmond is doing (on- and off-island).

- Walt (and Vincent)

- Some resolution as to what happened to Rose and Bernard on-island.

- An explanation for the weird symbols on the counter in the hatch when time expired without the numbers being entered (a longshot, I know).

 

My prediction: The 'alternate' timeline is what would have happened had Jacob not thrown his brother into the light/cave way back when (that being two episodes ago). Off-island, Desmond is bringing the surviving cast-members to their 'constants' to keep them from jumping back and forth between the two worlds. On-island, Desmond does something to cancel out the electro-magnetic powerhouse that is MIB....negating the anomaly. Alternate world becomes reality....end of story.

[Point Beer Is Best]

- Juliet making her coffee shop appearance. (Don't forget that Julie

Bowen's schedule for 'Modern Family' may have prevented her

availability, before jumping to the Jack-Juliet conclusion)

 

I don't think that was a problem since Julie Bowen didn't play Juliet on Lost. The actress that played Juliet is now a main character on V. Unless I'm missing some other connection here.

[bjkrautk]

- Juliet making her coffee shop appearance. (Don't forget that Julie Bowen's schedule for 'Modern Family' may have prevented her availability, before jumping to the Jack-Juliet conclusion)

 

I don't think that was a problem since Julie Bowen didn't play Juliet on Lost. The actress that played Juliet is now a main character on V. Unless I'm missing some other connection here.

 

Julie Bowen played Jack's pre-island wife, Sarah, during flashback episodes since Season 1 (presumably while working around her schedule on 'Boston Legal' at the time), a patient whose spine he operated on, contributing to her falling in love with him. They did not have a child together.

 

Bowen's current working schedule (on 'Modern Family') may have hindered her availability to appear during this season. The fact that we haven't seen Jack's ex-wife in the off-island scenes with his son have led many fans to believe that Jack's ex-wife in the 'alternate' LA is Juliet Burke (played by V's Elizabeth Mitchell). I'm not willing to jump to the Jack-Juliet conclusion until I see it on-screen.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Gotcha. I had forgotten about Sarah since it's been about 3 or 4 years since they've really mentioned her. I think that watching the recap before the finale will be required for me to refresh my memory.

[Brewtacular]

Very excited as the finale should be good. I wonder what kind of ratings this will pull. Certainly, it is going to be up there with Seinfeld, Dallas, Mash as one of the hightest watched shows ever.

After this, I'm done. I'm out. Im done with TV. This was the last of things I'm willing to watch. Luddite's rejoice!

[razzzorsharp]

It won't be that high ratings wise as not as many people can jump into it.

[Point Beer Is Best]

So... they were dead the whole time?

[True CryM]

I guess. I'm still not sure how to comprehend the ending. I don't like that Penny and Juliet were in the final church scene. Also, when did Rose and Bernard get the "feeling" in the flash sideways? And, the giant omission by the writers - Walt. No closure or any real insight into his story.

[Principessa21]

I really like the ending (well, the whole finale) and I got closure, but it looks like there are plenty of fans who feel the opposite of me. I do wish that they had something on Walt, but the unanswered questions don't bother (at least now). I was crying the last 15 minutes, and I loved when Locke smiled at Ben outside the church. It reminded me of when he became my favorite.

[Baldkin]

No Walt or Michael in the church.

Incredibly disappointed by the ending. Finding out that the whole flash sideways was just a place to chill til they went on to heaven (or whatever you'd like to call it) was amazingly anti climactic, and made everything which happened on the island seem... well... pointless.

[Team Canada]

So... they were dead the whole time?

In the "alternate reality" at least.  For a minute when Christian started talking I thought it really was going to be some "island is purgatory" thing (which the creators have repeatedly denied), which would have been really stupid.  But in a way I'm glad there was no alternate reality, just them having to "find" each other once they died.  I'm not sure if I like that direction or not, but at least the island was real and what they did mattered.

 

edit:  regarding no Walt or Michael, I wonder if it was because they weren't on the island as long and so weren't really part of the core group (and Michael had the whole "betrayed everyone so I have to make up for it so I can leave" storyline..)?

[Principessa21]

No Walt or Michael in the church.

Incredibly disappointed by the ending. Finding out that the whole flash sideways was just a place to chill til they went on to heaven (or whatever you'd like to call it) was amazingly anti climactic, and made everything which happened on the island seem... well... pointless.

That isn't my interpretation at all. I see it as two different timelines, Jack dying was the end of one whereas the church was the second ending.

ETA: If anything, the flash-sideways would be purgatory, because to me it seemed the island definitely happened. NM, RobertR beat me to it.

[RobertR]

I thought it was quite clear, but whatever happened on the Island happened. It wasn't purgatory.

 

Now, that side universe could be interpreted as purgatory....

 

I thought that was emotionally satisfying and brought a fitting conclusion to most of the storylines. The themes and questions of Lost always were more interesting than the "mythology". And when they could mesh that with good, character driven storytelling the show was at its best.

 

Now, the threads of the mythology I don't think hold together. Frankly, I suspect Jacob was hitting that bottle of his while making up the rules. As a model of a tightly constructed fictional universe that holds up to logical scrutiny, there are plenty of criticisms to direct Lost's way, all the way up to the end.

 

Edit: It's probably useful to think of it as them playing on the "Island is purgatory" theories floating around during the first season. They put a spin on that for the final season. It also was kind of a play on the "Live together or die alone" idea.

 

Robert

[pitchleague]

so, when dying Jack sees the plane flying overhead, assuming that everything on the island did happen, did the people on the plane then survive in real-life? I don't get that part at all.

 

Does this mean that Desmond was the angel of death, telling everybody about their real lives on the island?

 

I have a LOT more questions that weren't answered tonight, although I'm satisfied with the way it ended. I just wish there were more answers for us. Might have to buy some of those LOST novellas that have been proposed by the producers.

[homer]

I can buy the "alternate timeline" as purgatory but...

 

- Why was Sawyer, Kate, and Claire at the church but not the Captain, Richard, or Miles?

- Why was Penny at the church?

[Team Canada]

so, when dying Jack sees the plane flying overhead, assuming that everything on the island did happen, did the people on the plane then survive in real-life? I don't get that part at all.

 

 

Does this mean that Desmond was the angel of death, telling everybody about their real lives on the island?

Yes, they got off the island in the plane, and Desmond was orchestrating the meetups with their love connections (at least for most of them) so that they figured out they were dead.

[True CryM]

I think it's more than apparent now that the writers didn't have a complete plan. The whole rift between the religious writers and the technology/time travel writers may have confused things as well.