Lost Season 6...

[bjkrautk]

I do think there will be things left unresolved for some people, for instance, Widmore and his whole role seem to have completely disappeared, but ultimately I don't much care about that.

I think that any Widmore-related plot threads have to wait until the return of Desmond. I spoiler-texted that name because I don't know for certain that he's coming back....but I assume that he's the person who Jacob meant when talking to Hurley about the Lighthouse last week.

 

Don't fully understand the turn in Sayid last night; mostly because I am left to ponder if the entirety of his actions were the 'message' he was sent to convey, or just the spoken message (which is how they presented it). Equally clueless about why killing the Japanese guy (Dogen) cleared the way for the smoke monster to enter the temple.

 

I'd be disappointed if the show were answering too many questions now, but I just want most of those questions answered by the time the ride comes to a complete stop.

[homer]

I think Sayid turning dark may have been a complement to his alternate time line. He is an evil dude - he can't shake it no matter how hard he tries. Might have something to do with all the "your fate is your fate no matter how hard you try to change it" theories.

[Tedaldtada]

For those that don't know, all 6 seasons were basically written before the first season ever aired. That is why this is so great. We will find out all we need to know to be satisfyed.

 

As far as Widmore goes, I don't think we have seen the last of him at all. I also think Walt will be back in some capacity.

 

The final season has been fantastic.

[chadomac]

For those that don't know, all 6 seasons were basically written before the first season ever aired. That is why this is so great. We will find out all we need to know to be satisfyed.

 

As far as Widmore goes, I don't think we have seen the last of him at all. I also think Walt will be back in some capacity.

 

The final season has been fantastic.

That isn't true at all. I've heard the head writers say themselves that they have been writing these episodes as they go. In one of their most recent podcasts they said they hadn't done a podcast in awhile because they were busy writing out how the series will end.

 

Can you link me to anything confirming they wrote the whole thing in advance? I'd love for you to be correct, but I don't think you are.

 

[pretendastronaut]

Ya, it's not true that it was all written in advance. JJ Abrams has said that they always knew some elements, but that nobody could have predicted where it went. But that is also why they picked their own end date a long time ago now, so they could write the story they wanted, not be dragging it out pointlessly.

 

Wasn't it pretty well stated that nobody was actually coming to the island, but that Jacob wanted Jack to see the lighthouse? I'm not sure what role, if any, Desmond will have yet this year, though I hope he does.

 

At the moment, it seems possible they are setting up for Jack to be the new Jacob, and Sayid to be the new smoke monster, but I'm guessing it's more involved than that, and hope it is as well.

[statman0007]

I believe they've said that they've known in very general terms where the show would go/end, but they definitely didn't have the whole thing planned out. Plenty of things didn't go as planned such as Eko leaving the show to Ben becoming a major player (he was originally supposed to have a 3 episode arc).

[chadomac]

They initially wanted to kill Jack in the very first episode but ABC said no.

[Point Beer Is Best]

They initially wanted to kill Jack in the very first episode but ABC said no.

I think that's true. He (Fox) actually auditioned for the role of Sawyer, and "Jack" was basically created for him. Which is amazing considering how very prominent he's been in the series. They had a beginning and an end in mind for the series, but pretty sure they didn't have the whole thing planned out.

[jjfanec]

They initially wanted to kill Jack in the very first episode but ABC said no.

I think that's true. He (Fox) actually auditioned for the role of Sawyer, and "Jack" was basically created for him. Which is amazing considering how very prominent he's been in the series. They had a beginning and an end in mind for the series, but pretty sure they didn't have the whole thing planned out.

Michael Keaton was supposed to play the role of Jack and die in the pilot. The main character was supposed to be a Rose/Kate hybrid. Sawyer's character was supposed to be a 40 year con man who was more like a businessman than white trash. Hurley's part was not in there original.

 

From what I read they had an over-arching plot and where they wanted it to end. They actually said there is a big clue for the whole theme in the pilot.

[chadomac]

From what I read they had an over-arching plot and where they wanted it to end. They actually said there is a big clue for the whole theme in the pilot.

I'm pretty sure that is the part where John Locke shows Walt how to play backgammon in the pilot. He talks to him about how "one side is dark, one side is light".

[jjfanec]

From what I read they had an over-arching plot and where they wanted it to end. They actually said there is a big clue for the whole theme in the pilot.

I'm pretty sure that is the part where John Locke shows Walt how to play backgammon in the pilot. He talks to him about how "one side is dark, one side is light".

That could be it but they did say a few years ago that no one had discussed this clue yet. Maybe that was before the dark and light stuff became much more apparent with Jacob and the other dude.

[Tedaldtada]

I should have been more clear, but you guys are right, sorry. They had a plan though, stuck to it for the most part, and now we are coming to the end. It has been a great ride. I hope more shows think big picture like the makers of Lost did.

[jjfanec]

I should have been more clear, but you guys are right, sorry. They had a plan though, stuck to it for the most part, and now we are coming to the end. It has been a great ride. I hope more shows think big picture like the makers of Lost did.

I wonder if JJ Abrams learned his lesson from Alias. That show started out very strong but then just seemed to drag on and get weirder as time went on. I know Abrams shifted his focus to lost at about season four of Alias but they just did not seem to know exactly where they were going.

[jjfanec]

I really liked last nights episode as well. Ben (Michael Emerson) is a great actor. Jack seems to be getting his mojo back. I like that Hurley seems to be a major player this season.

[pretendastronaut]

Last night's episode was very strong, and it was good to see that Ben didn't make the choice you would expect him to make.

 

Also, a bit of Lost humor;

 

[homer]

I liked last nights episode. Excited to hear all about Richard next week. I wonder if this will all come back to the Black Rock ship - and that's where Richard, The new Locke, and Jacob all started out (Richard as a slave obviously).

 

I'm really enjoying this final season. There are some pretty deep themes going on involving fate, destiny, good vs. evil, etc. And the parallel plot line generates a new twist every week.

[drezdn]

My guess is that Jacob and New Locke pre-date the Black Rock, otherwise, I think Richard would have a better idea of what Jacob's deal was. Sayid's reaction to Claire attacking Kate was very interesting.

 

One thing that I just realized, if Widmore is a good guy, he may have sent the Freighter group to stop Ben because he knew if he didn't, Ben would kill Jacob. Not sure Widmore is good though.

[pretendastronaut]

In last year's finale, Jacob and the man in black were sitting on the beach while the Black Rock traveled to the island.

 

I'm not sure what Widmore's play is yet, but I'm curious and I'm glad he wasn't just forgotten.

 

Next week's episode should be pretty interesting.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Very good episode with lots of questions answered. It appears that Jacob's purpose is to keep the Man in Black literally bottled up on the island to keep all hell from breaking loose. And Richard is his prophet.

 

I'm getting a Book of Job vibe from the series now, where it seems that Jacob (God) and the Man in Black (The Adversary) have opposing views on the inherent goodness of man. Jacob believes in free will and won't intervene when good people are suffering, while the Man in Black believes that man is selfish and will renounce the higher power when things go sour.

[bjkrautk]

Lost never answers any questions.

 

(Great episode last night.)

[drezdn]

Last night's episode did a good job explaining why from Jacob's perspective he doesn't just come out and tell people his plan.

[jjfanec]

Last night's episode did a good job explaining why from Jacob's perspective he doesn't just come out and tell people his plan.

This was one of my favorite episodes of Lost. We learned a ton about Richard, and a good amount about Jacob and bad Locke. But the episode did not just answer questions, it also was very well acted and the story moved well. The Sawyer episode from two weeks ago was weak (I am bored with Sawyer - seriously buddy everyone has had bad things happen on the island) but this episode has me really, really excited for rest of the season.

[Tedaldtada]

Just caught up (missed this past week's episode). Wow, this is a truely fantastic show, and that is coming from someone who is not one bit religious. The only problem with the god/Jacob connection is why would god have to find a replacement. I think it's more plausible that Jacob works for god.

 

For the record, I am going to predict Jack becomes the new Jacob. His last name is Sheppard....

[And That]

I think it's more plausible that Jacob works for god.

 

For the record, I am going to predict Jack becomes the new Jacob. His last name is Sheppard....

Just watched the latest episode, one of the best hours of TV I've seen.

 

Jacob made it pretty clear that he's not God, at least in the Judeo-Christian sense of the word. The whole Jack Shepard whose father's name is Christian thing I think is a bit of a red herring - I hope the ending isn't as obvious as Jack replacing Jacob (also note the name similarity).

[homer]

I love how the creators of the show addressed the whole "they're in he11" theory that's been going on since the beginning. nice to see we're inching towards a resolution. I think that finale is going to be epic.