still looking for pitching

[prophet]

I don't know if anyone else saw this yesterday, but they were doing a hot stove version of baseball tonight, yesterday afternoon (might have been a repeat). But, they were talking about Davis signing and Buster Olney was asked if the Brewers were done with pitching, and he gave a flat NO. He said that even with Davis and Wolf the Brewers would most likely add another free agent pitcher. He seemed pretty positive about it and Olney is always a guy that i trust. Do you guys think he means just Mulder or maybe he's talking about someone that can actually contribute. Do you guys think we are still looking to add another starter?

[Tbadder]

I would be shocked, and very much pleased if they added more pitching, but unless it's a minor league contract I can't see it happening.

[Invader3K]

It's hard to imagine they have any payroll flexibility at this point. I would guess he means Mulder or someone similar. I can't picture how they would sign someone like Sheets or Bedard at this point.

[Milltownhooker]

Could trade for someone. Mets are in love with Smoltz & Sheets. Have traded pitcher compete with Bush & Suppan. Loser gets cut or traded

[NievesNoNO]

It wouldn't surprise me, although I have to think their payroll has got to be maxed out. I think Mulder is still probably an option, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see a Maine for Hart deal. The Brewers have been scooping up a few outfielders lately (Hopper, Oeltjen) perhaps to give them some flexibility to make a deal if one presents itself.

 

I like the fact we seem to have some depth to start the season with. Gallardo, Wolf, Davis, Parra, Bush, Suppan, and Vargas should at least keep us from having to see the likes of Burns again. I think the wild card is still Manny Parra. He's the only one that can push this rotation from average to solid. I'm still hopeful, but somehow I think he just might never get it all put together.

[patrickgpe]

no room on the 40, i don't see anything more than a mulder minor league deal, but would welcome another one.

[Hate those Rodents]

The one thing that might make sense would be a Parra trade and a Washburn signing if he'd accept a 1/5 offer with a team option. Not saying I'd advocate this, but if we can get a prospect we like for Manny, we'd seemingly be able to add another lefty starter to the mix.

 

I guess my point is that I could see us still monitoring Washburn and making room for him with a Parra trade if A) Washburn will come at OUR best value price and B) if Parra can get us what we want for him.

[RyDogg66]

With Doug Melvin's philosophy on Lefties (the develop late) I highly doubt he trades Parra.

[Milltownhooker]

I could see Villy & Salome for Maine & Pagan.

[CheezWizHed]

He might not have meant a starting pitcher. prophet's statement didn't say starting pitching, just FA pitching. Either way, I'd be surprised unless another trade went with it, but everyone here seemed to focus on a starter. Myself, I'm guessing he meant Mulder.

[RyDogg66]

I cant see Mulder getting a major league deal with his history. My guess is a minor league deal for Mulder, invitation to ST, and a guarantee to either be on the big league roster or released by 6/1 to find other work.

[CheezWizHed]

I didn't mean to indicate an MLB for Mulder. Definitely an MiLB deal. But that does still qualify as signing FA pitching...

[JohnBriggs12]

I don't think room on the 40 man is an issue. There are guys that are expendable on there. Dillard is probably most "on the bubble".

 

But I can't see another major league FA deal unless they shed salary some way.

[Milltownhooker]

Suppan buy-out or renegotiation ala Andruw Jones for a trade. Nats or Padres could use him if he was cheaper.

[Invader3K]

Suppan buy-out or renegotiation ala Andruw Jones for a trade. Nats or Padres could use him if he was cheaper.

Yeah, we wish...and so do the Brewers, probably.

[Milltownhooker]

Doug said at they back in November we wil need to take some chances. So far none of the signings have been a real gamble yet. I guess u could see Wolf as a gamble, but I don't

[Principessa21]

Doug said at they back in November we wil need to take some chances. So far none of the signings have been a real gamble yet. I guess u could see Wolf as a gamble, but I don't

 

Adding Gomez was definitely Melvin gambling that he'll progress.

[Hate those Rodents]

Yep, Gomez was a big upside acquisition. Wolf maybe is too in a way.

[And That]

While the Brewers needed the depth, you can and should really only sign so many middle of the road guys. Doug Davis was signed to replace innings from Suppan and/or potential innings from Burns/Villanueva/etc. If the Brewers were to sign another Davisish pitcher right now, like Garland, Garland would either be replacing Parra's or Bush's innings, which is not good bang from the buck. There's little or no marginal gain there, assuming either Parra or Bush bounces back. I don't think the Brewers would go out of their way to move from a Wolf/Gallardo/Davis/Bush/Parra-Suppan rotation to a Wolf/Gallardo/Davis/Garland/Parra-Bush-Suppan rotation.

 

Now, if for some reason Garland (or Washburn) shows up on Melvin's doorstep and wants to play for the league minimum, yah, you sign him.

[Milltownhooker]

I'm guessing Bedard is on the radar

[KCBrewerfan34]

Would Parra, Gamel & Lawrie get us Greinke?

 

 

Maybe package Bush & Gamel or Hart FOR an upgrade (pitching)

[Milltownhooker]

Greinke isn't on the market. No package the crew could offer would get him. If the Mets grab two FA starters. Milwaukee will try to add Maine & then Bedard. With Bush or Suppan being moved out for cost concerns.

[sheetswannabe]

Anyone want to take a chance with Pedro Martinez? He signed a 1 year deal last year for only 1 million, wouldnt be a bad backup.

[paul253]

I'd rather take a chance on Pedro than give anything to get Maine. I still don't see why anyone would be willing to trade a prospect or a starter like Hart to get Maine. That being said, I can't imagine the Brewers are going to get another starter.

[Milltownhooker]

People said the same thing about Edwin Jackson last year. Maine previous 3 yrs 06-08 stats cannot be ignored. He's a decent gamble if he comes cheap enough. He's had some shoulder's issues hence the rough 09 & why the Mets may deal him. I wouldn't give Hart for him, because the crew can't replace Hart like they did Hardy. Depends what prospect & reliever could get him.