McGwire admits steroid use

[chuckiehacks]

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I'm not sure how to feel about this. It is nice that he came clean and admitted everything (though there is already an anonymous source claiming he used HGH, which he didn't admit), but this sure sounds like "I wanted to go away, but now I'd like a paycheck." I do not envy him for the treatment he's going to receive on the road this year, but I guess that has something to do with sleeping in the bed you make.

 

I'm sure we'll hear all about how unclassy the rest of the league is for tauting this admitted cheater.

[bball123h]

We'll go with this one.

 

I still remember going to the game in County Stadium where he hit 63 and 64. Possibly my coolest Milwaukee-based baseball experience until the playoff run in 2008. Good for him to come clean, though he probably did this now to avoid a media circus following him all season.

[logan82]

LaRussa did an interview that I only caught parts of but it sounded like he was avoiding alot of the questions.

 

If people start forgiving McGwire in a few years it sort of sets the stage for Clemens an Bonds to come forward.

[burnzy24]

Well, at least he is admitting it. It took awhile, but I guess better late than never. Wonder if or when Bonds will ever fess up.

[MessiahRp]

I guess this is even less surprising than the Rose gambling admission, however I actually think the manner in which McGwire has gone about it will help him. He didn't deny it and get caught lying, he wasn't forcefully wagging his finger at Congress (And I think Raffy is the one guy out of the roiders, aside from Clemens and Bonds, who probably most deserves to get in)... he abstained from talking about it at the time on the advice of his attorneys and came clean in a manner that shows contrition.

 

I don't think it makes him a HOF lock but with that entire generation of players now tainted as probably roid users, I can't imagine none of them get in and after Clemens and Bonds McGwire has to be right around that next tier of guys.

 

Rp

[TheFyl]

What I thought was weird about LaRussa's interview is that, he on one hand claimed he knew nothing of McGwire's steroid usage and then in the next sentence says he knew that people were getting HGH prescribed to them after injuries. He speaks of the injuries of McGwire and Ankiel. So is LaRussa a dirty liar and he knew full well what people were doing? Just trying to pretend that he didn't or what?

[sheethead]

Big Mac didn't have a choice here. He wanted to come back and collect a pay check, and I have no doubt this was part of the deal. Completely orchestrated. While I appreciate him manning up and owning his past, the comments coming out of the Cards organization, and LaRussa more specifically, are geared toward creating sympathy for McGwire and his actions. The following "class" is as transparent as it comes, and is completely agenda driven.

 

"No one on the teams I managed worked harder or better than Mark. And now, his willingness to admit mistakes, express his regret, and explain the circumstances that led him to use steroids add to my respect for him. I've defended Mark because I observed him develop his unique power hitting skill through a rigorous physical and fundamental workout program. He has a lot to offer our team as our hitting coach. We look forward to his being part of the 2010 Cardinals." - LaRussa

[burnzy24]

"I remember trying steroids very briefly in the 1989/1990 offseason and then after I was injured in 1993, I used steroids again," McGwire said in his statement. "I used them on occasion throughout the '90s, including during the 1998 season."

 

Got this quote from the article on MSNBC. Did Jose Canseco call this too? I can't remember if in his book he made this claim or not. Mac seems to be putting everything out there and trying to come completely clean. We will have to wait and see if this has any affect on his hall of fame voting.

[Invader3K]

though there is already an anonymous source claiming he used HGH, which he didn't admit

 

I could be wrong, but wasn't HGH neither illegal in the US nor banned by MLB during that time period? I could have my PEDs mixed up, admittedly.

[craigharmann]

I am stunned to hear this revelation....just as I am stunned to hear the the sky is blue, water is wet and most of the time, grass is green.

[Invader3K]

I do give him some credit for coming clean, finally...but ultimately it comes down to, "Are you sorry you did it, or are you sorry you got caught?" I guess he could have just continued keeping quiet about it, but that would have hurt his team. I'm sure he probably agreed to make a statement on this before he took the job with the Cardinals.

[sheethead]

Personally, I don't think he is sorry for any of it. The roids made him millions of dollars. I have no doubt he would do it all over again if he knew the final outcome.

 

This is all agenda driven. From his shiny new high paying cush job to his campaign to be elected to the HOF. The timing (day after first round of NFL playoffs) made it easy for him to do this, but it also should allow most people to see right through to his true intentions.

[homer]

It would have hung over the Cardinals all season long had he not come forward. I give him credit for finally admitting it. My respect for him inched upward a little today.

[SeriesFinale]

I'm sure we'll hear all about how unclassy the rest of the league is for tauting this admitted cheater.

The stltoday.com Cards board is a laugh riot right now. Some very defensive people trying to act aloof and failing.

 

Ok Ill come clean!

Once I stole some cookies from my parents kitchen.

A couple times I stole change out of my moms purse to get bubble gum and a soda.

I lied to my parents and teachers a few times too.

I think in fourth grade I cheated on a math test.

 

Now I guess that means you can now label my character as a cheating, lying, stealing and all around scandalous man.

 

The audacity of some to point out others mistakes and label their character based on that... you are a fool.

The Cards had their list of players that "cheated" but so did every other mlb team.

I know this isn't truly news to them, or anyone, but someone who was the face of a franchise that admonishes others to "play the right way" to admit to cheating is still too rich.

[Teatoe993]

I read on a yahoo link that Big Mac will be interviewed by Bob Costas tonight at 7. I don't remember if that was Eastern or Central time.

[endaround]

And I'm sure Costas will have his special St. Louis demeanor on. So how long until Joe Buck comes and gives him a big hug?

[Invader3K]

I believe it is 7 PM EST, 6 PM CST.

[hawing]

I'm still not impressed.

That ESPN clip linked to in the lead post is making me smirk: "Why would this come up now?" Oh, like you don't know.

[Teatoe993]

I'll tell you one thing. Trenni wouldn't shy away from asking the difficult questions. Make it happen MLB Network!!! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[chuckiehacks]

So is LaRussa a dirty liar and he knew full well what people were doing?

I'm going to go with "yes" on that one. There is no possible way that managers didn't know what was going on in their locker rooms. Combine that with the fact that LaRussa has had more than his fair share of alleged users and his denial is even more disingenuous.

[sheethead]

And now Selig throws in his two cents. This whole thing reeks of human manipulation.

[miggs721]

Watching his interview right now, he said he could have hit 70 home runs without takins steroids. HAHA

[SeriesFinale]

This interview is really amazing--McGwire can't stop weeping.

[sveumrules]

He could have hit 70 his rookie year...if he squeezed in about 240 more ABs.

[Schlitz001]

Did Jose Canseco call this too? I can't remember if in his book he made this claim or not.

It's been a while since I read Canseco's book, but I think he admitted injecting McGwire with steroids at some point when they were the Bash Brothers.

 

I personally think it's nice that he finally admitted to it. Yes, it was obvious that he was guilty, but at least we finally know for a fact that all of his numbers are tainted. I hope he never makes the HoF, but he does deserve some credit for once again filling seats after the strike.