Gregg and Gonzalez being internally discussed, meeting Mulder's agents

[dpapo]

According to Adam McCalvy,

"Two sources said that right-hander Kevin Gregg and left-hander Mike Gonzalez are among the relievers being at least internally discussed by the Brewers who were also reportedly to meet Tuesday with representatives of free agent starter Mark Mulder."

Wouldn't have to give up anything for Gregg, but would have to give up a 2nd round pick for Gonzalez. Would rather have Gonzalez, but wouldn't want to give up the second round pick for him.

Will probably figure out soon if Mulder is going to sign with the Brewers. Will be a nice addition to have as insurance and probably wouldn't cost much as well.

 

 

http://brewersbeat.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/12/gregg_gonzalez_mulder_getting.html

[nate82]

Wouldn't have to give up anything for Gregg, but would have to give up a 2nd round pick for Gonzalez. Would rather have Gonzalez, but wouldn't want to give up the second round pick for him.

No any team that signs Gonzalez does not lose their 2nd round draft pick. Only type A free agents cost draft picks and this year the Brewers 1st round draft pick is protected. Type B's for the teams that offered arbitration to those players get a supplemental pick. No teams lose draft picks over Type B free agents.

[Nader Raider Tim]

Gonzalez is a Type A free agent

[nate82]

Gonzalez is a Type A free agent

Yeah just noticed that Gonzalez is a Type A. I still wouldn't sign Gonzalez unless he would do a very team friendly 1 year deal. Which is more than likely not going to happen so I doubt Gonzalez will really be considered.

[colbyjack]

I really didn't expect the Brewers to be active at all pursuing relievers this offseason, especially after they re-signed Hoffman so quickly. Gonzalez would be particularly exciting, who has been quite good for several years now, despite the fact that he would cost a second-round pick. Since money seems to be so tight and the team has yet to acquire one or two starters as they seem to be intent on adding, I would be surprised if either Gonzalez or Gregg (or any other notable FA reliever) ended up signing with the Brewers.

[brewmann04]

the crew has a buzz all over these winter meeting seems like Melvin hand in everything just have a bad feeling.

[dadofandrew]

No offense to Adam, but "internally", I assume the Brewers have no fewer than a dozen SP's and twice that many relievers on their radar. Some are top options, some are fallbacks, and some are "hoping they'll take $1M in mid-February". I agree, Gonzalez is as good as any RP, though with injury concerns (though how many pitchers are not?).

 

We might be entering an era where good relievers can be had at $4-5M, less than half of Wolf's supposed offer. I suspect many teams will load up on bullpen guys and go with a couple $1-2M per guys in the rotation and hope to "catch lightning in a bottle".

[Funketown]

No thanks on Gonzalez, unless he comes phenomenally cheap. I just don't think it's worth it to forfeit a second rounder on a reliever of his caliber.

 

As for Gregg, I just don't think he's worth more than a million or so. I guess that's where Jim Hendry and I differ (zing).

[yoshii8]

No thanks on Gonzalez, unless he comes phenomenally cheap. I just don't think it's worth it to forfeit a second rounder on a reliever of his caliber.

Are we talking about the same Mike Gonzalez? He was one of the best relievers in baseball last season w/ a 2.41 ERA in 74.1 innings and a 90/33 k/bb ratio. I would definitely forfeit a 2nd round pick for that. I think he would be a tremendous set up guy for the Brewers. I also think Kevin Gregg would be a very solid bullpen addition.

[jwill535]

Are we talking about the same Mike Gonzalez? He was one of the best relievers in baseball last season w/ a 2.41 ERA in 74.1 innings and a 90/33 k/bb ratio. I would definitely forfeit a 2nd round pick for that. I think he would be a tremendous set up guy for the Brewers. I also think Kevin Gregg would be a very solid bullpen addition.

Again teams dont give up picks for Class B free agents. Only the bottom 15 teams for Class A free agents give up picks.

[MNBrew]

Are we talking about the same Mike Gonzalez? He was one of the best relievers in baseball last season w/ a 2.41 ERA in 74.1 innings and a 90/33 k/bb ratio. I would definitely forfeit a 2nd round pick for that. I think he would be a tremendous set up guy for the Brewers. I also think Kevin Gregg would be a very solid bullpen addition.

Again teams dont give up picks for Class B free agents. Only the bottom 15 teams for Class A free agents give up picks.

Correct on Class B, but not re: Class A. Bottom-half teams give up only their 2nd round pick for a Class A free agent, not their first-round pick. Top-half teams give up their first-round pick for a Class A.

[colbyjack]

Are we talking about the same Mike Gonzalez? He was one of the best relievers in baseball last season w/ a 2.41 ERA in 74.1 innings and a 90/33 k/bb ratio. I would definitely forfeit a 2nd round pick for that.

 

Me too. I agree, I don't think some people are appreciating just how good Gonzalez has been. And not just last year either, take a peak at some of his recent seasons. He really has been light's out. As a lefty that gets out LH and RH hitters almost equally well, he's a lot like Brian Fuentes, a high priced, high profile FA from a year ago.

 

Again teams dont give up picks for Class B free agents. Only the bottom 15 teams for Class A free agents give up picks.

 

It seems like you're confusing the two classifications against themselves. Gonzalez IS a type A FA, which means the Brewers would give up their second round pick to sign him (as you noted, their first-round pick is protected because they were among the 15 worse teams in baseball last year).

[trwi7]

he's a lot like Brian Fuentes, a high priced

That's not making me excited to sign him since Fuentes was fairly mediocre last year.

[wishicouldhit]

Ignoring Gonzalez's price tag, the possibility of having the 7-8-9 being: Coffee, Gonzalez, and Hoffman is outstanding.

[colbyjack]

Fuentes led the AL in saves last year. His other numbers and ratios may have been down, but he's still a good to great pitcher/closer.

 

Plus, I know that you know that just because I linked one player to another that doesn't mean they are going to follow a similar career path and suddenly have a drop-off in production just because the guy I compared him to did the year before.

 

Toss out my comparison. Gonzalez is dang good, and we should be excited if the Brewers find a way to add him into the fold. I still don't think it's very realistic.

[trwi7]

He is good, but I just don't like signing relievers to long term contracts, especially when we have to give up a pick to get him.

[dadofandrew]

How can I get excited about losing a 2nd round pick when guys can be taken well down in the draft that are 2nd round talent, like this past year?

 

Tony Gwynn Jr was a 2nd round pick and will likely have a nice career. He is well above average for what an average 2nd round pick accomplishes. No offense to Tony Jr, but I'll risk it for a top o' the line player, be it Gonzalez or anyone else.

[trwi7]

Gallardo was a 2nd round pick. We could play this game all day. I don't think relievers warrant giving up draft picks. You can find plenty of decent options where you don't have to give up draft picks.

[jjkoestler]

I think it would be worth picking them both up if the Brewers thought they could realistically make a run this year. They could both be flipped for prospects at the deadline if the Crew was out of it. I mentioned this about Soriano in the Corey Hart thread too.