Randy Wolf- Latest: Multiple sources say done deal with Brewers

[yoshii8]

He is a pitcher that I remember the Brewers were interested in last season. He is a type A free agent, so we would have to give up our 2nd round pick. I expect him to get a 3-4 year deal at 10 million a year(just guessing). Do you think he's worth it. Looking at his stats over the last year and a half, I think he is a very valuable pitcher, and would love it if the Brewers signed him.

[dadofandrew]

He's been very good except when he was recovering from his injury. I'd hate to see a 4th year.

[colbyjack]

The Brewers may very well gain a couple of sandwich picks for Cameron and Lopez, which makes losing their second round pick easier to swallow.

 

I think Randy Wolf may be the best option on the free agent market that the Brewers could sign. He's a better option than Doug Davis, and a much better option than Washburn. As Al noted, Wolf has been very good when healthy, he should be a realistic player to target financially, and for the most part you know what you're going to get with him.

[wishicouldhit]

Last season I was hoping the brewers would go after Wolf. Instead they paid a little less for Looper. For 2010 and beyond Ithink Wolf iss a better deal than Lackey, simply do to the fact that he cost less and will take fewer years than Lackey. My guess is that 2yrs at 10 mil per would make him a brewer. I highly doubt he will get offered a 4 year deal. With the extra money DM could bring in another pitcher (Sheets, Bedard, Davis, or Washburn) and still have a little financial flexibility at the trade deadline. More importantly the crew has to keep financial flexibility so they may have a chance resign Fielder.

[yoshii8]

Wolf wasn't offered arbitration for some reason, so now it wouldn't cost a 2nd round pick. I really hope the Brewers get him, but this will probably make him more expensive.

[Weirdos19]

I would offer 3yrs, 27million. 2010- 7million 2011-10million 2012- 10million See if he'll take a little less while we swallow the end of bad contracts. Good idea?

[yoshii8]

I think it will take more money than that, I predict that it will take at least 10 million a season.

[HiAndTight]

I would offer 3yrs, 27million. 2010- 7million 2011-10million 2012- 10million See if he'll take a little less while we swallow the end of bad contracts. Good idea?

I would be thrilled with such a deal, however as Yoshi stated, it will likely cost more money than that.

 

I think we're talking about either 3 years and 30 million, or 4 years and ~36 million.

 

We could possibly get around that by offering a vesting option for the 4th year, or a team option with a 1.5 buyout.

 

 

But as someone else stated, what I would love the most about this is that it would allow us to go after a couple other low risk/high reward type pitchers such as Sheets, Duke, Smoltz, Penny. And then we could STILL sign Mulder to a 1 year minor league type deal.

 

And frankly that's what it's going to take IMO for us to be legit playoff contenders.

A rotation of;

 

1-Yovani Gallardo

2-Randy Wolf

3-Ben Sheets/Other FA who signs short, incentive laden contract

4-Manny Parra

5-Dave Bush

 

Other SP'ers

Jeff Suppan

Mark Mulder-Would start year in minor leagues and have option in contract to be waived if not called up by June perhaps.

Chris Capuano-A long shot and likely better served as a Loogy at this point, however someone else with starting experiance.

 

 

Now I believe that Parra will have a big bounce back year. Sheets will likely miss chunks of time, but we're protected against that.

 

Mulder is a big question mark, but he's a very small risk. I will say that I'm a big fan of his, even when he came back to the Cards last the ball looks very tough to pick up for lefties and gets on you quickly.

 

Gallardo is Gallardo and only getting better IMO.

Bush is a far better pitcher than he was after the Marlins game last year.

 

 

Frankly I believe this rotation would have the potential to be a top 3-4 rotation in the NL if things went well(not perfect). Could be very exciting.

[Invader3K]

FYI, Wolf was not offered arbitration. I expect a lot of teams to have interest in him.

[twobrewers]

Doug Melvin has indicated that Lopez & Cameron will not be offered arbitration. Looper's option was declined.

Randy Wolf was not offered arbitration.

This is not a good sign for free agents. With teams scared to spend money (and half the teams looking to cut salary), I think Wolf might be lucky to get 3 years and $37 Million.

[dadofandrew]

Wolf may not get 3 years, but the money per year is probably about right.

[BrewCrewForever]

Wolf would be a nice addition. I would be okay with a 3 year deal. Just not sure how much per year. $10 mill per year would seem high to me.

[SDOwen28]

I dont want a slightly above average pitcher for $10MM a year. I know Lackey is not likley but wouldnt you rather spend another $5-6 per year to get him over Wolf. I just think with Wolf we are going down the same track with Suppan, a decent pitcher overpaid. Or down the tracks of Gagne and Riske, we need pitching help and overpaid for it.

[Invader3K]

According to Haudricourt via Twitter, Randy Wolf stated a couple teams are going hard after him already. Haudricourt speculates the Brewers are one of those teams.

[Chio151]

Some guy on the TH Blog comments says it's happening according to his 'agent friend'. 3 yrs 25-30 mil.

 

GreatApe»

Wolf is signing a 3 year, 25-30 million dollar deal with the Brewers. Expect an announcement soon... I have a reliable source on this. You can take it to the bank.

[MNBrew]

TH's blog is loaded with doofuses who like to make these guarantees. Usually appear early in the thread. One word: trolls.

[Invader3K]

Reminds me of that clown who was proclaiming for sure that Peavy was being traded to the Brewers back in March.

 

There's a couple somewhat connected people on this forum who would probably be confirming that very soon if true. I have my doubts Wolf signs so early in the "hot stove" season, though.

[colbyjack]

I have my doubts Wolf signs so early in the "hot stove" season, though.

 

Why not? Free agency has been open for two weeks, and the Winter Meetings start this coming weekend. Most thought it was a lock he would be offered arbitration, by the Dodgers of all teams. Players may be wise to get as much money for as many years as early as they can this offseason. If we've learned one thing by some of the early trades and arbitration decisions, it looks as though teams may wait the players out more than usual to get some real bargains in January and February.

 

I hope it happens. In my mind, Wolf makes the most sense of any free agent pitcher out there.

[Invader3K]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him as a Brewer too. Especially if it's under $10 million/year for only three years. I just am not going to hold my breath.

[Mass Haas]

Two years ago, Carlos Silva signed a four-year, $48 million deal with Seattle in mid-December, and then laughed as the money dried up for nearly all other signees. A Bill Bavasi albatross for Jack Z.

That's my statement regarding signing relatively early, as opposed to comparing a Wolf signing to a Silva signing.

[colbyjack]

I think Mass may be saying the same thing I am, as my point from before isn't about whether or not you like Wolf, but that players should get the money while they can. Time usually is the best negotiating tool, but I'm not so sure this year.

[reillymcshane]

I think Mass may be saying the same thing I am, as my point from before isn't about whether or not you like Wolf, but that players should get the money while they can. Time usually is the best negotiating tool, but I'm not so sure this year.

Time is your best tool when you hold all the cards in your hands - like Sabathia or Matt Holliday or Mark Teixiera. But when you have chinks in your armor - which most guys do - you sign faster, especially in times like this - money is tight for teams, and many will wait until prices go down before getting serious. Edgar Renteria at $9 million a year anyone? The point is that most teams don't have the money for more than one big signing - and every time one guy goes off the board - it shrinks the players options.

 

I do think Wolf has enough leverage to string things along if he desires - but remember, Wolf had a 3-year $28.5 million offer from the Astros last year (which he rejected), but when the market settled, he had nothing like that. He might be motivated for one last big payday. Probably in the 3-year, $27-30 million range. Of course, without having to give up a draft pick, some other teams might get in the game as well, driving up the price a bit. All it takes is one team to get enamored with player to make their price go through the roof.

[CheezWizHed]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/78385862.html

 

At the end of this blog about Zaun, TH talks about rumors of Wolf signing for 3y $27M with the Brewers:

 

When someone who would know was asked if it were possible that the Brewers gave Wolf a three-year, $27 million deal as rumored by a couple of posters, he replied, "Sure, if you believe in Santa Claus."

 

So is BF the source of that rumor? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[brewerfan82]

I wouldn't mind Randy Wolf as one of our two new pitchers, but I think I'd rather take a shorter term risk on a Sheets/Bedard/Harden-type and remain financially flexible after this season. Either way I really hope we can trade for another young pitcher to go along with whomever we obtain (ala Jackson, Johnson, etc.).

[TooLiveBrew]

When someone who would know was asked if it were possible that the Brewers gave Wolf a three-year, $27 million deal as rumored by a couple of posters, he replied, "Sure, if you believe in Santa Claus."

 

Am I reading this correctly? TH is essentially mocking people for speculating on a signing... but he's instead wording it as a "rumor", which implies some inside information? In short, does TH consider a discussion board thread a source for rumors? No one here said it was rumored, people just are guessing. Get a clue, TH.

 

But hahahaomgz that Brewers official & your snarky style sure shot us moronz down!