College Basketball 2009-2010 (part 1)

[T B0NE 10]

WOW

[jwill535]

Blue would have to be released from his LOI.

 

Maymon quit the team because he wasnt getting the playing time that was promised to him by Buzz. Trust me MU fans, you are so much better off without him on the team.

[Buckylovesbeer]

That really sucks. For MU, for hoops fans in Wisconsin.....for his pal Van. Now what will Blue do?

 

I just called a big booster (a MU Lawyer, big season ticket booster) and he claims that Maymon was pissed about having to be in the post during most of their sets. Let the rumors begin.....this booster claims that Maymon wants to play for Bruce Pearl at Tennessee.

 

I feel bad for Buzz.

[dadofandrew]

The timing of it, right when the firsat semester ends, seems too coincidental.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

Well, I'll eat my crow. This came pretty much out of left field. Buzz gave no indication on his radio show tonight, right before this dropped.

 

As for Vander, Mark Miller has a story up and Vander will honor his LOI. Mark was the one reporter their family allowed in during the recruitment, so I take this as very solid.

 

http://www.wissports.net/sports/hoopsb/blog/message.aspx?f=123&id=1102225

[PKBadger]

Now THAT's irony.

[PeaveyFury]

Must not be, because your reading comprehension isn't any good.

 

Completely inappropriate.

 

are king $h*#

 

Also against the rules here.

[monkeyman343434]

nice to see you pick taht up when i say something like that, but i see about 50 other things similar and not one thing is said, thanks

[LouisEly]

he claims that Maymon was pissed about having to be in the post during most of their sets.

 

If this is in fact true, it is another problem of a lack of height with recruiting. Maymon was forced to play in the forward spot almost by default due to being one of the bigger players on the team; Cubillan, Acker, J-O, and Buycks have to play the guard spots. I doubt it was playing time - he was averaging over 16 minutes a game, seventh best on the team. That's pretty good for a true freshman.

 

The timing of it, right when the firsat semester ends, seems too coincidental.

 

We'll find that out soon enough. Someone will leak his grades. If he goes to Tennessee or a juco program will tell the reason too.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

Well, if what I'm hearing is correct, we'll all know Tim Maymon's side of the story very soon.

 

Thought the stories on him were sour grapes... guess I was very, very wrong on that.

[PeaveyFury]

nice to see you pick taht up when i say something like that, but i see about 50 other things similar and not one thing is said, thanks

 

Point me in their direction, and I'll say something to them too. Doesn't make what you posted any less against the rules.

 

And your response doesn't endear you to anyone either....

[T B0NE 10]

Tim Maymon is an absolute tool. You had to see him at the UW-MU game. He recieved a welll warranted "******' chant on Saturday. Contrary to popular belief it was originally intended for Maymon not Vander Blue. Blue was just walking down the aisle at the same time the chant was going on and shifted towards Blue.

 

This could be devastating for MU if Blue changes his mind and goes elsewhere. I doubt he would ever come to UW after all of this.

[Diskono]

Maybe both will go to Europe!

[TooLiveBrew]

I'm not familiar with NCAA transfer rules... does Maymon quitting the team mean he can pick up with another team this season? I have to doubt it, since as best I understand he'd still have to transfer schools. If my assumption is correct, then what does Maymon gain by not simply transferring? Would he have been able to count this '10-'11 season as his transfer (aka 'sit it out') year? Thanks in advance to any who answer.

[Marc Newfield of Dreams]

If he transfers now, he'll still have to sit out a year. But the year will be spring and fall semester '10.

 

So the soonest he could play would be late December of next year.

[TooLiveBrew]

So what was the point of quitting? To just let everyone know he's a tool? Or am I just overreacting to him leaving the team?

[PeaveyFury]

So what was the point of quitting? To just let everyone know he's a tool?

 

As Al said, it may not be a coincidence that the timing of this is at the semester. He may be quitting because he might have already known he wouldn't be able to play in the 2nd semester going forward anyway.

[Buckylovesbeer]

JSonline and WSJonline are both full of theories and opinions today. You thought this thread was getting nasty, read some of the comments on those blogs....yikes!

 

This whole story is pretty sad. The kid is talented. Sounds like when he was recruited, and promised "starting spots" and to be a star at some colleges, he really took this to heart. Maymon had already commented on how he believed he was not being used properly.

 

This sucks for MU. This sucks for Buzz. This sucks for college hoops in Wisconsin.

[TooLiveBrew]

If I've learned anything from NCAA Football '07, it's that you don't make player promises in recruiting unless they're for jersey numbers! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[jjfanec]

Looking at some of Marquette's forums on scout.com, it seems like they really hate UW. I don't understand that.

 

Honestly, my bitterness comes from the arrogance/ignorance you see on some of the UW boards. Seemingly, a constant theme is the academic qualifications required for both of the schools

 

Ding Ding. By all means, UW should be proud of how selective they are in admissions. But that doesn't have anything to do with athletics. There is, and will always be different standards for athletes, and those are no more difficult than almost all BCS conference schools. So the constant harping on some sort of academic superiority with their athletes is a farce.

 

Like I said, they admitted guys like Boo Wade, Ron Dayne, and Booker Stanley. Marcus Landry was no genius out of Vincent either. They routinely hide guys in "majors" like agricultural journalism. So having some guy on a messageboard imply a MU player is either learning disabled or used illegal help to qualify really pisses me off.

This is just not true. Sure athletes have different standards but certain colleges still have higher standards for their athletes than others. Look at Notre Dame and Stanford. It is constantly talked about how those two schools cannot get the same players others schools can. The Badgers quit recruiting Maymon when the saw what his grades and test scores were. They knew he could not get in. That is pretty well known. Also look at the amount of junior college players each team has brought in. Bo Ryan has brought in one that I know of, but Marquette has had many more. Juco players are much harder to get into colleges and that is why Wisconsin does get many of them.

 

This is not Wisconsin Badger fan elitism. It is the truth of how recruiting works. Some schools can get players in that others cannot. It is not saying Marquette is Memphis, they are a good school but their restrictions on athletes are just different. Now schools can get athletes in who are not at the same academic level as the average student but there are different lowered standards for each institution.

 

I love the Badgers and will root for Marquette more often than not. But to say the admissions level on each team is the same is wrong. Just like it is to act like Wisconsin is like Harvard and Marquette is like a community college. They are close but their standards are different.

[homer]

Northwestern is probably not the norm but there's an old story about how stringent their academic requirements are. Tommy Amaker intereviewed for the head coaching position once upon a time and he brought with him two high school transcripts with the names redacted. He asked the powers that be at Northwestern if these two individuals would be allowed to play hoops for the Wildcats. He was given a resounding "No way!". Tommy then told the interviewers that the two people they just rejected were Christian Laettner and Bobby Hurley. No way they'll ever win anything of note with those kinds of standards.

[jjfanec]

Northwestern is probably not the norm but there's an old story about how stringent their academic requirements are. Tommy Amaker intereviewed for the head coaching position once upon a time and he brought with him two high school transcripts with the names redacted. He asked the powers that be at Northwestern if these two individuals would be allowed to play hoops for the Wildcats. He was given a resounding "No way!". Tommy then told the interviewers that the two people they just rejected were Christian Laettner and Bobby Hurley. No way they'll ever win anything of note with those kinds of standards.

This a great example. Now Wisconsin is not Northwestern, but they are closer to them than most Big Ten schools. People who think grades do not matter for college athletes at all big time schools are flat out wrong.

[hawing]

Tim Maymon talked to madison.com. Link

Jeronne is being used out of position and the offense isn't being run for him.

 

I guess nine games is enough of a sample to determine that the whole four seasons would be that way? We don't know what if anything he was promised, but this makes me think that the Maymons are at best impatient. They'll say more publicly on Thursday, after the release is granted.

[dadofandrew]

I am all but positive Maymon will have to sit out a year and then be eligible 2nd semester, which would be January 2011. That's assuming he's eligible...the timing would indicate he knew he was done.

 

I think NW has relaxed standards a bit for athletes, I think Barnett discussed this in his book.

[RyDogg66]

Id have to speculate that grades would have made him ineligible in the 2nd half of the season anyway and by transferring now he is only going to miss a semester extra.