Interest in Dave Roberts?

[sbrylski]

Denverpost.com is reporting that Roberts is seeking $15 million over three years. This sounds consistent with the predictions made by Rotoworld (16 million over 3 years)

 

It also sounds "fair" relative to the other contracts numbers being thrown around.

 

If there was anyway to make that third year an option year, it would make me feel better.

[AJAY]

Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com had this to say . . . .

 

Milwaukee, Atlanta and Texas are among the clubs in the mix for outfielder Dave Roberts. Roberts stole 49 bases last year compared to 10 for Gary Matthews Jr., Texas' incumbent center fielder, and new Rangers manager Ron Washington is a big proponent of speed at the top of the order. With Mark DeRosa signing for three years and $13 million with the Cubs, Roberts might now be looking at three years and $15 million-plus -- a figure that's rising by the day.

[tigerbrew]

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Denverpost.com is reporting that Roberts is seeking $15 million over three years. This sounds consistent with the predictions made by Rotoworld (16 million over 3 years)

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I think 3 years / $15MM for Roberts is too risky and may not be worth it for the Brewers. I hope Melvin don't do it, unless the third year is a team option with a $250,000 buyout.

[cooprules]

I just wouldn't give him 3 years. My feeling (hope) is that Gwynn will be able to put up Roberts like numbers in a year so why give him 2 extra years. I know he wouldn't sign for less than that so let him go.

 

I wouldn't mind giving Lofton a one year deal and let Gwynn have another year at AAA.

[AJAY]

It looks like the Braves are dropping out of the Dave Roberts sweepstakes.

 

From MLB.com . . . .

 

Scratch Dave Roberts off the Braves' list of potential free-agent acquisitions. The Atlanta Journal Constitution reported that the Braves are no longer interested in Roberts, who could command a three-year, $15 million contract.

[TooLiveBrew]

I know a lot of people here don't like the Roberts idea, bc of Gwynn Jr. This is precisely why I like the deal. Gwynn Jr is by no means ready to play MLB everday. He is, however, a strong defender, bunter, and speed burner. He would figure very well coming off the Brewers' bench in both 2007 & 2008.

 

Sign Roberts to his 3 years, and make sure there's a relatively affordable ($1 mil or less) buyout on the 3d year. I really don't see how a 34 year old speed (not power) player could argue against that provision. It would be fair for the Crew and the Roberts. I really like him at 3/15, but ONLY with a 3d year buyout provision. If Gwynn Jr is ready at that time, we've still got him. And in the meantime, he makes for a pretty strong backup OF and pinchruner/bench player!

[AJAY]

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The Dodgers are close to signing free-agent center fielder Juan Pierre, possibly paving the way for free-agent outfielder Dave Roberts to sign with the Giants, Brewers or Rangers, FOXSports.com has learned.

 

Pierre is believed to be seeking $9M a season and his contract could be for as long as five years.

 

The Orioles are on the fringes of the Roberts sweepstakes but they are also pursuing free-agent left fielder Carlos Lee, sources say.

[brettac1]

Sabean is going to swoop in and overpay for Roberts, because that's how he rolls. I'm fine with that, so long as it doesn't lead to Gwynn playing.

[bucksman4]

I'm fine with that, so long as it doesn't lead to Gwynn playing.

 

I'd agree with that if we had someone else on the roster who could provide us better play in CF. We don't so we have to look elsewhere. FA or Trade? Take your pick. Gabe Gross is not the answer, sorry to burst anyone's bubble.

[brettac1]

Well, Gross is pretty good, and signing a platoon partner for him would be a lot cheaper than overpaying for an aged CF like Roberts. His defense is pretty poor, but his offensive superiority to Gwynn makes up for it by quite a bit, since I don't really think Gwynn is that special out there, either. Obviously, both Roberts and Pierre are bad defenders, too. I'd guess Lofton would be, too, but I haven't looked.

[TooLiveBrew]

Not so fast brettac. The Brewers have a much better team than the Giants right now. Where SF is old and has players departing like the next quake is on the way, the Crew is young and improving. Call me an optimist, but I can't see Roberts liking the SF squad even equally to ours at this point.

 

Their ace is headed out the door, Bonds is either gone or playing 87.362873 games next year, and the Dodgers & Padres are actively improving and maintaining their teams this offseason, not to mention the NL Cy Young winner plays for the other team in the division - the young and improving D'Backs

 

I think Sabean would have to really really overpay to make Roberts consider playing for a team that is not going to be that good next year. Roberts has played on winning teams every season in his 8 year career, and I think it's a pretty safe bet that the Giants will not be in that category in 2007. Add in the fact that he's played most recently on the two good teams in that division (LAD & SD), and it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for him to jump ship to a sinking one.

 

It'd be like seeing Tomo Ohka sign with the Pirates. It's a possibility, but it just doesn't make sense for the player. I know SF has some $$$ to throw around, but I bet our bigger competition is the Rangers. All that being said, it sounds like we have a dang good shot of landing Roberts. But I am an optimist. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[brettac1]

I think the Giants will offer more money, which more often than not lands a player. Considering Roberts is old and already has a ring, he doesn't need to go to a contender - he needs to go to whatever team will pay him the most money he can get before he retires, which will probably be after this deal. And if there's one thing you can count on Sabean to do, it's to sign old guys to horrible contracts.

 

And I'm fine with that, because I think the Brewers signing him would make no sense on their side of the deal.

[splitterpfj]

I'm going to agree with brett here, given the size of Pierre's deal, it seems like a safe bet that someone will outbid the Brewers for Roberts.

 

Maybe the Brewers will turn to Lofton, if not him, I guess Weeks leads off again.

[strawbossisevil]

Adding CoCo Crisp in a trade would cost half of what Pierre or Roberts would make, and he brings better all around numbers too. And we wouldn't have to have him signed when he's filing for social security.

 

I still think Crisp should be the guy we go after this offseason.

[brewmann04]

looks like again we lose out to better paying teams,

[splitterpfj]

Having seen what Pierre, Mathews, etc are getting this year, and with two nine figure deals in now.....who would have ever thought 15M for Dave Roberts would seem like stealing?

[BREWCREW5]

well, you can close the book on Roberts.

[AJAY]

From CBS Sportsline . . .

 

The deal between San Francisco and outfielder Dave Roberts (three years, $18 million) is expected to be finished early next week, though it isn't quite as close as has been reported. The two sides are still discussing parameters of a deal and a physical exam has yet to be scheduled. "The Giants have about 50 balls in the air right now," says John Boggs, Roberts' agent. "We're working in that direction." Several other clubs, including Milwaukee, continue to keep tabs on Roberts in case that deal falls apart.

 

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[splitterpfj]

I still expect him to be a Giant, but that update doesn't surprise me. If this deal was "done" last weekend, why is it still being ironed out?

[sbrylski]

That would really suck if we did end up signing him. I didn't like trying for him, then I was very relieved he picked the Giants. To blindside us with Roberts would suck.

[dpapo]

The Giants are just probably waiting to see if the Padres will offer Roberts arbitration.

[splitterpfj]

"Hello Padres, this is Brewers. Good, and you? Great, and the kids? Good, good, say, we want Roberts and you want Graffanino. (chuckle), Sorry about that whole Counsell thing.

 

"Say, how about we both offer these players arbitration, then you sign our guy and we sign yours, Elias rated Graffanino at 66.667, Roberts and 66.000, it's a wash. Then, we get your first pick, you get our second pick, and we both pick up a sandwich pick in the deal. This way, you're trading down from your first pick to our second pick, but you get an extra pick, and you get to tell the Giants to go pound sand."

[cancer47]

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The only hangups in the Giants' deal must be either $/year or #/years, which means the Brew Crew couldn't afford or wouldn't desire either one.

[sbrylski]

The only hangups in the Giants' deal must be either $/year or #/years, which means the Brew Crew couldn't afford or wouldn't desire either one.

 

The problem is that we know we offered Roberts more money that the Giants have. If the Giants don't meet Roberts terms, he could turn around and take our deal.

[1992casey]

I'm wondering if the Giants have been waiting to see if Roberts was offered arby. Has anyone heard what the Padres decided about that?