Let trevor time go

[Never Outhustled]

The Brewers have way more money than people are figuring, if Hardy is dealt, which seems likely. If the Brewers decline options on Looper and Weathers, and non-tender Bush, they have enough money to keep Cameron, Hoffman, and add a $12 million pitcher. We have alot of flexibility.

[marty22]

X, do you really think they'll non-tender Bush?

[marty22]

X, do you really think they'll non-tender Bush?

[Invader3K]

Not directly he won't. But people see how the team is put together. Signing Hoffman in the offseason was the big ticket signing. It shows that the Brewers are committed to winning.

Exactly. I just don't want to see this team in June or July scrambling for a closer because Todd Coffey or Carlos Villanueva or whomever is not working out in that role. Teams that go to the playoffs usually have very good closers. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, but usually a solid bullpen is critical to success.

 

I also think people underestimate how much revenue he is bringing in from merchandise. I've seen a ton of those "Trevor Time" shirts this summer. Granted, that's probably a small drop in the bucket, but at least it's something.

[Invader3K]

Not directly he won't. But people see how the team is put together. Signing Hoffman in the offseason was the big ticket signing. It shows that the Brewers are committed to winning.

Exactly. I just don't want to see this team in June or July scrambling for a closer because Todd Coffey or Carlos Villanueva or whomever is not working out in that role. Teams that go to the playoffs usually have very good closers. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, but usually a solid bullpen is critical to success.

 

I also think people underestimate how much revenue he is bringing in from merchandise. I've seen a ton of those "Trevor Time" shirts this summer. Granted, that's probably a small drop in the bucket, but at least it's something.

[Never Outhustled]

X, do you really think they'll non-tender Bush?

Only if they see a realistic oppurtunity to get a good pitcher. I think they be watching the situation in Atlanta very closely.

[Never Outhustled]

X, do you really think they'll non-tender Bush?

Only if they see a realistic oppurtunity to get a good pitcher. I think they be watching the situation in Atlanta very closely.

[Tbadder]

The only thing that weirds me out about this off season is that the Brewers might not have any money to spend. I'm betting season tickets sale plummet, and our break even point is something closer to 60 mil rather than 90 mil. For that reason alone I think we need to jettison contracts wherever we can, and if Hoffman nets us a draft choice, well, then I'd let him walk for sure. I hope I'm wrong, but it could end up being a cold slap in the face for Brewer fans this winter.

[Tbadder]

The only thing that weirds me out about this off season is that the Brewers might not have any money to spend. I'm betting season tickets sale plummet, and our break even point is something closer to 60 mil rather than 90 mil. For that reason alone I think we need to jettison contracts wherever we can, and if Hoffman nets us a draft choice, well, then I'd let him walk for sure. I hope I'm wrong, but it could end up being a cold slap in the face for Brewer fans this winter.

[Invader3K]

I don't know...Attanasio isn't stupid. I think he realizes they need to milk the next couple years for all they're worth. I doubt they significantly slash payroll. Really, all it will take with this fan base is one big FA signing or trade during the off-season, and I think season tickets will go like hot cakes again.

[Invader3K]

I don't know...Attanasio isn't stupid. I think he realizes they need to milk the next couple years for all they're worth. I doubt they significantly slash payroll. Really, all it will take with this fan base is one big FA signing or trade during the off-season, and I think season tickets will go like hot cakes again.

[pretendastronaut]

Sure you can pay a closer, but to what end? A good closer will pick up 35-40 saves regardless how bad the team is, the closer doesn't make or break the bullpen or the pitching staff.

 

This was a pretty obvious shift in the production of our bullpen when Hoffman came off of the DL early in the season, and roles were finally established. Granted at the time we had no closer, but without a good closer, you just shifting to find one with your current crop all of the time.

I don't think bringing Hoffman back is a must, but I would certainly try. We're not the Phillies, and in this division, we're not likely to run away with anything, so a game here or there can make a very big difference, as it did in 07 and 08.

[pretendastronaut]

Sure you can pay a closer, but to what end? A good closer will pick up 35-40 saves regardless how bad the team is, the closer doesn't make or break the bullpen or the pitching staff.

 

This was a pretty obvious shift in the production of our bullpen when Hoffman came off of the DL early in the season, and roles were finally established. Granted at the time we had no closer, but without a good closer, you just shifting to find one with your current crop all of the time.

I don't think bringing Hoffman back is a must, but I would certainly try. We're not the Phillies, and in this division, we're not likely to run away with anything, so a game here or there can make a very big difference, as it did in 07 and 08.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

The backend of our bullpen was good this year. Take Hoffman out of the mix and it gets tougher. Maybe Coffey could close, but the options for set up get dicier. I'd try and hang on to as much of our backend bullpen as possible and hope we can get enough starting pitching to keep us in the game through 6. It's like trading Prince, it doesn't help to fill one hole if you just create another.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

The backend of our bullpen was good this year. Take Hoffman out of the mix and it gets tougher. Maybe Coffey could close, but the options for set up get dicier. I'd try and hang on to as much of our backend bullpen as possible and hope we can get enough starting pitching to keep us in the game through 6. It's like trading Prince, it doesn't help to fill one hole if you just create another.

[hurricanecrush]

Sure you can pay a closer, but to what end? A good closer will pick up 35-40 saves regardless how bad the team is, the closer doesn't make or break the bullpen or the pitching staff.

If we think we're going to be a 70 win team next year then I agree. If we think we have a .500 team, or better, then it would be foolish to go in trying to pick one from the current pen. Does Turnbow ring a bell? How about the struggles we had in '08 trying to figure out who would close?

[hurricanecrush]

Sure you can pay a closer, but to what end? A good closer will pick up 35-40 saves regardless how bad the team is, the closer doesn't make or break the bullpen or the pitching staff.

If we think we're going to be a 70 win team next year then I agree. If we think we have a .500 team, or better, then it would be foolish to go in trying to pick one from the current pen. Does Turnbow ring a bell? How about the struggles we had in '08 trying to figure out who would close?