2010 pitcher trade candidates

[piccione88]

I think that the best route for the Brewers to acquire starting pitching this off-season is by way of a trade. I have been trying to come up with some pitchers that will be available this off-season and my list is pretty short. Here is what I have so far. FLA: R.Nolasco, my personal favorite, next year is his first arbitration year, so he will come relativley cheaply for 3 years. ATL: J.Vazquez BOS: C.Bucholz KC: G.Meche, and B.Bannister PIT: P.Maholm SF: J.Sanchez, I wanted to trade Hardy for a package centered around Sanchez, in the off-season. Now I am not sure that he will be available, but they need offense badly, so they should trade some pitching this off-season. Who else could be available besides these guys?

[fleehaw]

Given the likelihood that Gallardo, Bush, Suppan, and Bush are 80% of the rotation next year says to me that they desperately need a bridge between Gallardo and the rest.

 

The guys I think fit that bill the best: Vazquez and Nolasco (I believe this year is his 1st arby year)

 

Here's a couple ideas revisited.

Brewers get Nolasco

Red Sox get Hardy

Marlins get McGehee, Bowden, and Ramirez/Delcarmen

 

Hart and Bush to the Braves for Vazquez (I'd probably only be willing to include Bush if a separate deal for a SP is made)

[wishicouldhit]

Given the likelihood that Gallardo, Bush, Suppan, and Bush are 80% of the rotation next year says to me that they desperately need a bridge between Gallardo and the rest.

I would agree that we need a bride gap from gallardo. But i believe the brewers need to add 2 pitchers.

[Hate those Rodents]

I don't know why people pencil Suppan into next year's rotation. Yes, we are paying him a billion dollars, but I can almost guarantee, in spite of that, that our five man rotation next year won't have him in it. He'll be the sixth starter and otherwise a longman for us in the final year of his pathetic contract.

[Invader3K]

I really hope they give serious thought to that, HtR. He doesn't deserve to be "pencilled in" to the starting rotation. I guess give him a shot in spring training, but if he looks like "same ol' Soup Can", put him in the bullpen and use him as a spot starter.

[Oldcity]

I like the Nolasco idea. A deal involving Hardy and Nolasco makes sense because each has had a disappointing season. In fact, that three-way deal Fleehaw proposed looks pretty realistic to me.

[jackalope02ca]

Nolasco is a great buy low candidate. I also like Kris Medlen, Tim Hudson, Kawakami or Vasquez from the Braves. The Braves are 6 or 7 deep in starters next year so are a good team to target.

[pogokat]

Ricky Nolasco has been on fire since his call-up...i doubt he's traded, and if so i bet it will be for much, much more than hardy

[nate82]

Don't forget Ian Kennedy who is currently blocked from the rotation in New York.

[BrewCrewForever]

I don't know who they can get, but I would think even with their down years Hart and Hardy should net some kind of pitcher that can bridge between Gallardo and Parra/Bush/Suppan.

[TooLiveBrew]

Don't forget Ian Kennedy who is currently blocked from the rotation in New York.

Here's a short article by Chris O'Leary on what he dislikes about Kennedy's mechanics.

 

Given that Ian Kennedy comes from the Tom House school of pitching mechanics and arm action (USC) and is a cohort of Mark Prior and Anthony Reyes, I think he represents a fairly high risk

Kennedy had surgery this season to remove an aneurysm from beneath his right biceps, and the Arizona Fall League will be his first pitching action since early May. He only threw 22-ish IP this season at AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (& had good results in that short time), so I'm not sure he could be counted on for a full season. His career high for IP is 165.1 (2007), and he threw only 116.2 IP in 2008.

 

Kennedy is also going to pitch in the Puerto Rican winter league, and I think the Yankees might not necessarily view him as blocked. The offseason will be huge, both in terms of Kennedy's own progression, but also whether or not Pettitte retires. If he does retire & Kennedy is able to return to health, I doubt Kennedy will be blocked anymore.

[endaround]

Thing is Kennedy is just not good enough to pitch for the Yankees as a rookie. He's almost certain to struggle and that just isn't going to fly in the Bronx.

[trwi7]

Don't want Kennedy. Weak stuff, I want guys who can consistently break 90 with their fastball.

[nate82]

Don't want Kennedy. Weak stuff, I want guys who can consistently break 90 with their fastball.

I definitely wouldn't want him to be a key part of the rotation but as a #6, 7, 8, or 9th option is something the Brewers need to look at.

[804Sox]

Given the likelihood that Gallardo, Bush, Suppan, and Bush are 80% of the rotation next year says to me that they desperately need a bridge between Gallardo and the rest.

 

The guys I think fit that bill the best: Vazquez and Nolasco (I believe this year is his 1st arby year)

 

Here's a couple ideas revisited.

Brewers get Nolasco

Red Sox get Hardy

Marlins get McGehee, Bowden, and Ramirez/Delcarmen

 

Hart and Bush to the Braves for Vazquez (I'd probably only be willing to include Bush if a separate deal for a SP is made)

Interesting proposal, but what would be the Marlins' motivation for trading Nolasco?

 

It seems that with Hanley locked up, guys like Josh Johnson, Nolasco, Volstadt, etc. all beginning to enter their primes, and top prospects like Cameron maybin, Gaby sanchez, etc on the horizon, this is the part of the Marlins "5-year plan" where they add a player or two and take a shot at a WS. I don't think they're ready to blow up this squad yet.

[piccione88]

I really do not think that Parra is a lock for the rotation next year. The Brewers front office obviously has high hopes for Parra going forward. That however should not, and does not mean that he is penciled into the rotation next year. If the Brewers get a couple of good pitchers in the off-season I think that Parra is the odd man out at the start of the season.

 

Throughout a full schedule you will usually need to use more than 5 pitchers so even if Parra starts out in the pen he will be the first option to fill in for someone.

[TheCrew07]

If Parra doesn't figure it out this organization is going to be hurting, LHPs who can run the ball up there in the mid 90s just don't come around all that often.

 

I'm not sure we need Kennedy as depth. If Jones comes back we'll have some depth at AAA between Cody, Jones, and Butler, and at AA we'll have Rivas and Rogers. I'd much rather see Rivas and Rogers cover MLB innings for a couple of weeks than more guys who lack projection. I don't think the organization would hesitate to reach down to AA either. We're finally reaching a point where we'll have some quality arms to fall back on.

[Never Outhustled]

Interesting proposal, but what would be the Marlins' motivation for trading Nolasco?

The Marlins have 6 legitimate starting pitchers, and Nolasco is 1 of only 2 in the group that is expensive. They'll need a 2B or 3B if Uggla is dealt.

 

However, Nolasco scares me, he has a history of injury and a violent delivery. I's rather pay more for Josh Johnson, if that a possiblity.

[Invader3K]

I'd be fine with trading for Kennedy, I just wouldn't want to give up a ton to get him. He's one of those guys who has been overhyped because he plays in New York. Then again we said the same thing about Melky last off-season, and he's had a very nice season, so who knows?

[endaround]

Well Melky Cabrera was having a nice season, but he's fallen off a bunch. A .268/.329/.415 line with bad defense makes him just above replacement level. Better than last year but still not good. Kennedy is about to be 25, hasn't pitched for a year and will leikyl never get a role in New York. He looks to be moved for a very good setup man is my guess.

[804Sox]

Interesting proposal, but what would be the Marlins' motivation for trading Nolasco?

The Marlins have 6 legitimate starting pitchers, and Nolasco is 1 of only 2 in the group that is expensive. They'll need a 2B or 3B if Uggla is dealt.

True, but:

 

1) He'll still be reasonably affordable at least through next year, and his poor ERA will actually help the Marlin's keep his salary down, I imagine

 

2) Nolasco is arguably the team's best pitcher behind Josh Johnson, and I still believe that the Marlins would like to keep him until they see their Hanley-era championship window closing unless he brings an excellent return

 

3) Because the Marlins are in the "win now" phase of their cycle, I see it as more likely that they use minor leaguers to acquire a 3B/2B than a key piece of their current team.

[JohnBriggs12]

Brandon McCarthy has had injury issues ever since Texas acquired him. But he's still only 26, and I believe he's still has upside. Texas has enough young pitching that they let Padilla go in the midst of a race while McCarthy was still on DL. So I think McCarthy could be had for a reasonable return.

 

Keep an eye on how McCarthy does this month now that he's back.