Bill Castro fired, Bosio called up

[Mr QL]

I don't know if Castro was a good pitching coach or not but there is nobody on this Earth alive or dead that could of made this pitching staff "good". It was pretty big feat that they actually held up until around June in my opinion. Total scapegoat and DOUG MELVIN is too blame for this pitching staff.

[young guns]

Since we couldn't send all of the pitchers down to Nashville, we had to bring Nashville to the pitchers.

 

Seriously though, the reality is that pretty much everyone but Yo and Hoffman are struggling, and someone is going to take the blame. I don't know if Castro deserves the blame, but for better or worse, the blame is his.

[PeaveyFury]

Seriously though, the reality is that pretty much everyone but Yo and Hoffman are struggling

 

Agreed. It's one thing to watch the likes of Suppan struggle as you'd expect, but nearly everyone on the staff has been below expectations this year, and to at least some degree that has to fall on the coaching.

[Eileen Wright]

I don't understand all of the love and defense for Bill Castro here! If he was such a great coach, why was he stuck as a bullpen coach for 17 years? Name someone who has been a bullpen coach for seventeen straight years? If he was decent, the Brewers would have promoted him or a different franchise would have given him a shot. So what if he is a nice guy. My record is clean, I'm a good person, so I want Macha's job after he gets the axe.

He should have never got the job in the first place. I'm happy he's gone.

[Gobias Industries]

Wow, what a day. Of course this would be the day where I'd be no where around a computer.

 

I'd just like to say whoever made this move is a snake. Melvin set up Castro to fail. He's the scapegoat, and you think the organization would have more class than to fire a guy who's been around so long. 3/4 of a year?!? Give me a break.

 

The only positive I can take from this year is Macha is unlikely to manage this team in 2010. Thank god he stupidly accepted a 2 yr contract.

[TooLiveBrew]

Wow, what a day. Of course this would be the day where I'd be no where around a computer.

 

You and me both, man http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

 

I am starting to reeeeeally get leery of having Attanasio as our owner.

[Invader3K]

I am starting to reeeeeally get leery of having Attanasio as our owner.

 

Yeah, it's a real shame. We have an owner who wants to win, and holds people accountable.

 

I love all the moves that happened yesterday (well, Castro getting fired is so middling to me, I don't really care too much either way, but I'll take Chris Bosio and see what he can do). If Attanasio had to make Melvin get off his butt and make some things happen, that's fine with me.

[Fatter than Joey]

You are the fall guy.

 

Heather Thomas was soooo clutch.

[giffted1]

Yeah, it's a real shame. We have an owner who wants to win, and holds people accountable.

These moves have much more to do with appeasing the fans than they do with winning and accountability. If Attanasio is on an accountability kick, he should clean house in the minor league medical staff. Don't fire a pitching coach who failed to make bad pitchers good or waste a year of our top prospect's service time. If he wants to win, let Melvin do his job or find another qualified individual to do it (not someone whose only experience in baseball is buying a team).

[Diskono]

Castro is fired for a couple months of bad pitching from a pitching staff that was expected to be average at best.

To be fair, even if the staff was only expected to be average, they still fell way short of that.

[giffted1]

To be fair, even if the staff was only expected to be average, they still fell way short of that.

I think that under the best case scenario (everyone staying healthy) we were expected to be average. That didn't happen.

[brewmann04]

this staff was projected to be 500 at best and Castro got them that far,he can't pitch for the pitchers and they need to be held accountable. They need to Fire Fischler also.

[DougJones43]

The talks of accountability have zero credibility as long as Kendall and Fischer keep their jobs. Until those guys are gone, it's just random blood-letting, with some of the real culprits getting a pass for reasons unknown.

[Invader3K]

How is it random when they got two guys barely batting over .500 off the roster?

 

The fact is the team's pitching is the worst in the league by several different measurements. Something was going to have to give. No, it's not all Billy Castro's fault, but you can't fire the entire pitching staff. Baseball coaches and managers know that going into their jobs, they may very well have to take the fall if their team under performs. It sucks, but that's how it goes.

[brewmann04]

then why is Fischler still coaching Third base , First of all he never coached there and should have never been signed Friend of Macha or NOT

[Invader3K]

I think the position of third base coach is so far down on the list of this team's problems right now that it doesn't matter who you have pacing around by the hot corner.

 

It's "Fischer", by the way.

[bklynbrewcrew]

There is not one pitcher on this staff that has gotten better and many have regressed dramatically like Parra and Looper. Meanwhile Maddux has guys like Hunter and Feldman doing real nice work. Its obvious to me that Castro was doing a terrible job.

[The Truth]

Parra has improved as the season has gone on. Hoffman is improved over last season's stats. Todd Coffey stats this year are greatly improved over his previous career stats. I would argue that Stetter was improved but then got overused by Macha.

[Invader3K]

Parra's improvement could be credited to Bosio, though, who worked with him during his AAA stint. Hoffman is a future Hall of Famer, so I'm not sure how much credit you can give Castro there. Coffey was already looking good last September.

[bklynbrewcrew]

Parra has regressed a great deal from last year. Maddux has turned guys like Feldman into good pitchers while a guy like Parra forgets how to pitch.

[DougJones43]

How is it random when they got two guys barely batting over .500 off the roster?

Because only certain guys are being held accountable, while others (who are equally as bad or worse) continue to have jobs. If Hardy and Castro are held accountable, then Kendall and Fischer need to be as well.

[bklynbrewcrew]

I agree that as long as Kendall is here and playing everyday there is only selected accountability. Hardy has had a bad year for sure but compared to Kendall he has looked like Pujols. Kendall is statistically the worst offensive player in baseball yet this dopey manager lets him play nearly every single day.

[brewmann04]

How many earned runs have Lopper Given Up and how many HR. The HR is strictly on Looper and Not Castro.Suppan is a Career 500 pitcher and so is Bush. What did you guys Expect him to do with these Pitchers. Besides the Pitchers should be held Accountable for the HR and Walk they get paid to Pitch.

[TooLiveBrew]

Maddux has turned guys like Feldman into good pitchers while a guy like Parra forgets how to pitch.

 

Yet during Maddux's final season, the criticisms were he had 'lost the magic' or whatever. This is just another scapegoating, which is sadly par for the course for being a pitching/hitting coach in MLB.

[Eileen Wright]

I am sick of people saying that Castro is just a scapecoat in all of this! Granted, he is not the sole reason why we stink this year, but again, if he was any good to begin with, he wouldn't have been stuck as a bullpen coach for 17 years.

I did like how Doug Melvin just said on the TV broadcast that when the team was in LA, him and Billy caught a 10:30 showing of The Hangover. I liked even more that he fired him roughly a week later!