Melvin comments on 1250 WSSP

[Thurston Fluff]

If BOS was able to extend JJ, then he could in theory be worth Bucholtz, but if they would not deal Clay for Halladay, why Hardy?

 

If it was just him even up they wold have moved him in a heartbeat.

 

Melvin has stated several times in the past he believes you get better deals for offensive players in the winter vs during the seaosn. So I think his motivation, or lack thereof, has more to do with what he thinks he can get then over what is being offered now.

[JJHardy7]

Well if the team we trade him to doesn't sign him longterm, I'm assuming he would be a type A free agent and bring them in two picks. So in my mind it would be one year of JJ and two comp picks. But I also don't feel you can get a #2 type starter for that either, unless as someone said that pitcher is overpaid even for a #2. And if the Brewers are taking on that type of salary, that would probably take away all of Melvin's flexibility for other trades or signings.

 

You raise some good points. I guess the way I try to look at it is what would we give up for JJ in theory? I know we don't have young talented pitchers knocking on the door at AA or AAA so it's not 100% fair, but if we didn't have Escobar waiting in the wings...what is JJ worth? I don't think he's worth a Yo, but maybe a Parra-type?

[Hate those Rodents]

Yeah, I think a Parra type is about accurate. It'd be nice if JJ could park at least 15 by the end of the year so that his power numbers are at least somewhat there. His average clearly won't be, but if the power numbers are somewhat there and teams can look to his previous years, we should be able to get the 2/3 type that we desire for him.

[JohnBriggs12]

He said he didn't necessarily see Weeks as a good fit in center fielder because he's a "power runner" (think Rickey Henderson) rather than a "tall, rangy, long-strider" (think Mike Cameron). He said moving Weeks to CF has been discussed within the organziation basically since he came to the big leagues and that some think he would be good out there.

 

He did say a lineup with both Lopez and Weeks would be attractive, said his "stat guy" would call it a good start to a "sequential lineup.

I wouldn't classify Micheal Bourne, who is 5'11" as a "tall, rangy, long-strider". He seemed to me like he was power running those balls down against the Brewers. The assessment that a guy can't play CF because of the way he runs might be the most ridiculous case of over scouting that I've ever read.

[Postseason2006]

We're technically trading one year of JJ....

Well if the team we trade him to doesn't sign him longterm, I'm assuming he would be a type A free agent and bring them in two picks. So in my mind it would be one year of JJ and two comp picks. But I also don't feel you can get a #2 type starter for that either, unless as someone said that pitcher is overpaid even for a #2. And if the Brewers are taking on that type of salary, that would probably take away all of Melvin's flexibility for other trades or signings.

To get comp picks, doesn't the player have to have somewhat decent stats in the last two years to be regarded as such?