Is there any point in going after Carl Pavano?

[RyDogg66]

Assuming he is available, healthy, and the Yankees are willing to eat at least 1/2 his remaining contract, do you think he'd be a guy who could come in and stabilize the back end of the rotation?

 

I wonder what we'd have to give up the get him.

[billyhallfan]

They would have to eat up a lot of his contract, more than half, and then I might be willing, if Doug doesn't have to give a whole lot up.

[PepsiFanClubAlum]

I don't like Pavano and I don't think he fits the Maddux mold because he is not a power arm. Over a 10 year career (9yrs) he only has 4 shutouts and 6 complete games. Dave Bush has 3 and 6 (3yrs). I am hoping that no one let's the Yankees off the hook for that one hit wonder.

[RyDogg66]

Davis and Capuano arent exactly flame throwers either. If we can get him for pennies on the dollar and he is healthy enough to pass a physical I think it'd be a decent move.

[hauser42]

No way we would have two players then injury issues. Sheets and Pavano.

 

I don't think he would help anywhere.

[bbrauch2000]

If they took half his salary, on today's market Pavano at 5 million is a steal if he starts 25 games

 

I think they would give him up for a song too

[pogokat]

clark for pavano, with the yankees paying him all but 2 million a year until whenever the heck his contract is up...

[clancyphile]

Pass.

[RyDogg66]

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No way we would have two players then injury issues. Sheets and Pavano.

 

I don't think he would help anywhere.

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:eyeroll

[DHonks]

I'm pretty sure Pavano is a power arm. For years people talked about his ace-potential. Then he had one great season and got the big contract. If he could be had cheaply ($$-wise), I'd love to acquire his. He's a low-risk, high reward kind of pitcher. We'd need backup options, though

[RyDogg66]

He'd be the back up option, or at least he would allow Vargas or Villenueva to be the back up option. The way I see it is if we can acquire him for someone like Brady Clark without adding payroll (i.e. we pay what ever Clark would make) I don't see how it hurts us.

[berniebrewer4life]

I wouldn't be opposed to it, depending on who we have to give up. Assuming it's some single A shmuck, bring him on.

[AJ Love]

I found it somewhat ironic/interesting that Carl Pavano is the #2 pitcher most similar to Ben Sheets. That says alot either about our perception of Sheets or of Pavano

 

www.baseball-reference.co...&st=career

 

I'd definitely like to see Pavano as a Brewers

[pogokat]

I think that's largely because they have nearly identical win loss records and ip...

 

sheets has a much better ERA (and likewise ERA+) as well as something like 300 more strikeouts...

 

pavano's not as bad as his reputation currently has it...but pavano isn't that much like sheets....i'd say he is much more like doug davis....

[endaround]

I'd rather see him than Vargas since Pavano has a better chance to have a really good year.

[cancer47]

I don't see the Yankees paying that much of Pavano's salary, just to get a Brady Clark. If Pavano has upside, like some people say, the Yanks, given their pitching woes, are better off keeping him.

[hauser42]

eyeroll[/i]

 

Rydogg if all you have is an eye roll, must realize that it is closer too the truth than you like. He need solid arms not a guy that has had issues with staying healthy for years. Take look Pavano seems to always be nicked up.

[pogokat]

i think the eyeroll was at your assertion that sheets has injury issues...

[hauser42]

i think the eyeroll was at your assertion that sheets has injury issues...

 

What would you call the last couple of years, he has not been out there for a full season. I know they are not the same injury and odd ones, but bottom line he has not been on the hill.

[RyDogg66]

It was a combination of the Sheets comparison and the fact that you ignored that I said get him for next to nothing (essentially what Brady Clark is making).

 

I'd much rather take Pavano at what Brady Clark is making this year and roll the dice that he can give us 30 starts at the back end of the rotation than have Clark making outs on the basepaths when he is used as a pinch runner and 5th OF.

 

I dont propose taking on Pavano's salary, just trading for him without adding salary and not counting on him to be a savior. Any benefit he would provide would be great. Also, if he is already damaged goods, ie not healthy, then forget it.

[hauser42]

I'd much rather take Pavano at what Brady Clark is making this year and roll the dice that he can give us 30 starts at the back end of the rotation than have Clark making outs on the basepaths when he is used as a pinch runner and 5th OF.

 

Well Pavano would most likely be taking Brady's spot keeping the becnh warm with some type of injury. Clark would actual be in his best role as a 4th OFer. He got a boost in numbers because of playing time, but now the league has exposed him and it seems he can not counter.

 

I would rather a young arm got a spot instead of some brittle guy.

[RyDogg66]

Ok. then Ben Hendrickson it is. You do know that your darling Chris Capuano missed the end of 2004 with an injury and all of 2003 with Tommy John surgery right? He's an elbow twitch away from being in your doghouse.

[hauser42]

Ok. then Ben Hendrickson it is. You do know that your darling Chris Capuano missed the end of 2004 with an injury and all of 2003 with Tommy John surgery right? He's an elbow twitch away from being in your doghouse.

 

Rydogg

 

1. I do not consider Little Ben even an option. He is a classice 4A player. He should only be used in a pinch. ZackJack, Charlie V, or Yo would be better options.

 

2. A lot of pitchers have either had TJ or Rotar Cuff surgeries now days. Cappy has come back worked and proved he is a solid pitcher.

 

I hope Sheets steps up and proves me wrong this year. I want him to be healthy and put up great numbers, but until he does I will not feel he is earning his keep. The team needs him to be at the top of his game for them to contend.

[pg44]

No.

[splitterpfj]

The Yankees asked for Richie Sexson in return for Pavano.

 

Am I the only one who finds that very amusing?