2009-07-17 Brewers (Suppan) at Cincinnati (Arroyo) : 6:10 PM CT [Brewers lose, 4-0]

[benji]

It is time for Braun to break out of the slump!

[brains and braun]

Was this a legit call?

[Ranier]

Ken Macha needs to get ejected over that. Sometimes you just have to go crazy.

[sauveb]

Can't argue with that call. Cameron is having a night to forget.

[benji]

You give three unearned runs and then ump takes one away. Not in the cards tonight!

[trwi7]

I'm pissed at Braun for swinging at the first pitch after Arroyo loads the bases with a walk. He's some kind of awful right now.

[Ennder]

I sure hope Cameron gets the night off tomorrow. That is a run he cost the team on offense and on defense now.

[PeaveyFury]

Yes, Cam slid late, but there was zero, zero chance that they get Braun in any universe there.

[jeffy]

Can't argue with that call. Cameron is having a night to forget.

Sure you can, they were not getting a DP anyway, so what did Cameron interfere with?

[sauveb]

Cameron didn't start his slide in time. It's automatic. It was just a stupid play on Cameron's part.

[packfan79]

Can't argue with that call. Cameron is having a night to forget.

Sure you can, they were not getting a DP anyway, so what did Cameron interfere with?

In an interference call does that matter though? Cam is having a forgettable night, the amount of base running blunders he has had this year is starting to get maddening.

[pebadger]

I'm just waiting to see the interference call on that play again some time soon Very iffy call, even if technically correct. It's like prosecuting one pro athlete for adultery every ten years.

[derflotr]

The Brewers need the HR ball to score, and they haven't gotten it tonight. It's simple enough for me.

[pebadger]

I'm starting to see why many think Gamel should play every day. Fits right in with most of the roster.

[olliegjw]

I'm pissed at Braun for swinging at the first pitch after Arroyo loads the bases with a walk. He's some kind of awful right now.

He's 1-3 and should have had an RBI ground out. He partly did his job there, but Cameron made a very dumb mistake.

[jeffy]

Here's the rule:

 

If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

 

It was a BS call, #1 there was not going to be a DP, #2 that call is never made when a runner slides...even when he slides late.

[sauveb]

Reread the rule, Jeffy. Cameron's intent was to break up the double play. That means when interference is called it is a DP. Whether they would have gotten the out at first is immaterial. Be mad at Cameron, not the ump. He got it right.

[brains and braun]

Jeffy is still right in arguing that the call is almost never made. Didn't see it, but it better have been pretty egregious, considering it took at least one run off the board.

[pebadger]

What is the intent of any runner going into second in that situation? If contact is made on the play, can't intereference be called in every such incident?

[olliegjw]

Jeffy is still right in arguing that the call is almost never made. Didn't see it, but it better have been pretty egregious, considering it took at least one run off the board.

Cameron wound up closer to the grass in LF than 2nd base. It was not even close.

[sauveb]

It's interference because of where Cameron started his slide. If you slide to the base it is okay. Cameron started his slide on top of the base and went 5 or 6 feet past it to get the fielder. It was an obvious call. The fact that there was no chance to get Braun at first doesn't make any difference. It was a bonehead play by Cameron. A veteran should know better than that. Most high school players know better than that.

[jeffy]

Thanks for the advice, but I'll stick with being mad at the ump, until I see that this is going to now suddenly be consistently called whenever a player trys to break up a double play. That idiot "by the book" ump decided to give the Brewers two outs in that inning over a routine late slide into second base on a non-double play ball.

 

I would also question whether one can intend to break up an event that is not going to occur.

[sauveb]

Why else would Cameron be sliding way out there if his intent wasn't to break up a double play? It's all about Cameron's intent.

[pebadger]

This team has been abysmal in games where they have a chance to win a series or finish a sweep.

[TauPentaRei]

OKAY MACHA. what do you do with a line-up that banged out 14 hits? well obviously, you change it.

 

tomorrow is game #91, and I don't know what the line-up is going to be. that's messed up.

 

stick Hardy in the 2-hole, okay? leave him there for a week. they're creatures of habit.

 

find a line-up already; geez, it's July.