Trade candidates not named Roy Halladay

[chansen]

Giving up on Halladay as I think the Jays are asking too much for him. Here are a few that I would like to see us pursue.

 

Gil Meche- The Royals are out of the playoff picture and Gil has had a below average season thus far. 1.50 WHIP is high but he has thrown over 210 inn the last 2 seasons. He is averaging 5.6 inn per start compared to 6.2 last season. He is owed $11M this season and his contract expires in 2011. Offer them Katin (in hopes of getting rid of Gillen's terrible contract), Tim Dillard.

 

Doug Davis- Familiar with the Brewers and will add depth to the rotation. Owed $8.75M this season and his contract ends as well. Prime candidate for a deadline deal for the Crew. Dillard + others.

 

Cliff Lee- Focus should be on him now that Halladay will cost the farm. They can't ask for as much as Toronto because Cliff is in his last year of a conctract. Owed only $5.75M this season. Offer Irrabarren + Villanueva + Gillespie.

 

I would love to get Cliff Lee as he would cost less than Halladay. Start the talks fellas!

[nate82]

Gil Meche- The Royals are out of the playoff picture and Gil has had a below average season thus far. 1.50 WHIP is high but he has thrown over 210 inn the last 2 seasons. He is averaging 5.6 inn per start compared to 6.2 last season. He is owed $11M this season and his contract expires in 2011. Offer them Katin (in hopes of getting rid of Gillen's terrible contract), Tim Dillard.

 

Doug Davis- Familiar with the Brewers and will add depth to the rotation. Owed $8.75M this season and his contract ends as well. Prime candidate for a deadline deal for the Crew. Dillard + others.

 

Cliff Lee- Focus should be on him now that Halladay will cost the farm. They can't ask for as much as Toronto because Cliff is in his last year of a conctract. Owed only $5.75M this season. Offer Irrabarren + Villanueva + Gillespie.

Meche wouldn't be a bad pickup and he is under contract for the next two years.

 

Doug Davis if he is traded with Lopez I wouldn't mind that trade.

 

Lee is not a free agent after this year. The Indians have a team option they can exercise for next year which they will. So it will cost just about as much as Halladay would.

 

Bedard is another possibility but the Mariners would have to drop out of the playoff race before they would think about trading Bedard.

[Pudster13]

Giving up on Halladay as I think the Jays are asking too much for him. Here are a few that I would like to see us pursue.

 

Gil Meche- The Royals are out of the playoff picture and Gil has had a below average season thus far. 1.50 WHIP is high but he has thrown over 210 inn the last 2 seasons. He is averaging 5.6 inn per start compared to 6.2 last season. He is owed $11M this season and his contract expires in 2011. Offer them Katin (in hopes of getting rid of Gillen's terrible contract), Tim Dillard.

 

Doug Davis- Familiar with the Brewers and will add depth to the rotation. Owed $8.75M this season and his contract ends as well. Prime candidate for a deadline deal for the Crew. Dillard + others.

 

Cliff Lee- Focus should be on him now that Halladay will cost the farm. They can't ask for as much as Toronto because Cliff is in his last year of a conctract. Owed only $5.75M this season. Offer Irrabarren + Villanueva + Gillespie.

 

I would love to get Cliff Lee as he would cost less than Halladay. Start the talks fellas!

 

I'm sorry, but Brendan Kaitlin and Tim Dillard are no longer desirable prospects (each aged 25+ with limited ceilings). They basically have zero trade value.

 

Cliff Lee would not cost much less than Halladay. Unless we're willing to part with at least two of Escobar, Gamel, Lawrie (which I hope we are not), we won't be netting either Cliff Lee or Halladay this season.

 

If Bedard could show he's healthly this month, he may make sense as a target because he is a free agent after this season. As a half season rental, we probably wouln't have to give up a blue chip prospect (Escobar, Gamel, Lawrie), in order to get him. A package of mid-tier prospects (Gillespie, Taylor Green, etc) could get a deal done.

 

However, if Mariners stay a few games out of first place during the next 10 days, they won't likely be sellers this trading deadline.

[trwi7]

I think Meche is a great option for us. He's pretty good now, good stuff and moving to the NL should help. Likely wouldn't have to give up a ton for him either.

[dadofandrew]

Meche is owed a fortune, and has arm trouble in the past.

 

Katin and Dillard have very limited value, like Zach Jackson last year in the CC deal. Throw in only.

[nate82]

Meche is owed a fortune, and has arm trouble in the past.

Not really if the Royals would take Hall in the deal which would be a savings for the Royals of $15.1M (not including this season the savings would be even more). I believe Meche would be a better pitcher than Suppan in the '11 year which is a $2M buyout year for Suppan. If the Brewers could swing a deal that lands DeJesus and Meche while dumping Hall and a prospect to the Royals you gotta make that trade.

 

The Brewers would only be on the hook for $3.6 for '10 and $11.5 in '11. That is subtracting Hall's contract from Meche's contract Hall has a buyout in '11 of $0.5m.

[Never Outhustled]

Gil Meche was worth $21.6 million last year. His salary was a bargain, and the Royals have no reason to dump him. If we dump Hall's salary on someone, it will have to be for a bad contract.

[nate82]

Gil Meche was worth $21.6 million last year. His salary was a bargain, and the Royals have no reason to dump him. If we dump Hall's salary on someone, it will have to be for a bad contract.

You would think that wouldn't you? But the Royals recent trades and acquisitions have been mind boggling. Taking on Betancourt and giving up 2 good prospects for him. A Hall + prospects for Meche is not that far out from a possibility. Hall's contract is not that bad either with that 500k buyout in the '11 season it is far less worse than Guillen's contract with the Royals and Wells contract with the Jays.

[steve267268]

Davis might come the cheapest, and we do have a good trade history with Arizona. But he's a nibbler and it's just so unbearable to watch him sometimes... I like the idea of Meche or Lee because they are coming from the AL and would have that element of surprise since most teams haven't faced them more than once or twice.

 

What I really don't like is the idea of trading Gamel, Escobar, or any other prospect that Melvin feels will be a big contributor down the line. We can't do it every year.

[JohnBriggs12]

Given KC's very disappointing season, their outlook for ticket sales for 2010 cannot be too good. Even though Meche's remaining contract ($24 million over 10 and 11), is not all that onerous (see Suppan), their management has to look at his 4-9 record and figure they could get that out of any number of cheaper guys who figure to be available this offseason in what figures to again be a depressed market.

 

The Brewers might even consider asking about Juan Cruz and/or David DeJesus both of whom have underperformed this year relative to their contracts and thus good "buy low" values with attributes that Brewers could use this year and next.

[Never Outhustled]

You would think that wouldn't you? But the Royals recent trades and acquisitions have been mind boggling.

I do agree that we should be constantly on the phone with Moore to see what horrid move he's willing to make next, but it seems like he prefers players with some hype attached. Actually, I have no idea what he thinks. I'm guessing Moore thinks the guys on Baseball Tonight know there stuff.

 

If there GM did have a brain, the type of deal we could expect for Hall would him for Kyle Farnsworth's slightly less yucky contract.

[chansen]

Alright I really like the idea of Meche and a new trade proposal

 

Heether- He is blocked by Gamel and Taylor Green is a good prospect and is younger. Heether is 27 and playing in AAA while Green is only 22. Royals could use a cheap 3B because they have toyed with the idea of trading Tehean.

 

Chase Wright- Good ERA but is not going anywhere in the system. Low K total does not go well.

 

Heether + Wright for Meche ??

[pogokat]

Heether and Wright have very little trade value---you could probably swap them for similar mid to late 20's AAA players, but there's no way you could get a legitimate mlb guy for that..

 

I mean, it takes at least Brian Wolfe to get Corey Koskie....

 

the guys you listed are throw in's....there the kind of guys you get for single a maybe guys...

 

also, the royals have Alex Gordon who will be rejoining the team very soon at 3b...

 

to get Gil Meche I'm guessing you need one legit prospect---Something like Angle Salome+Brendan Katin might be enough...but Knowing Moore, he'd probably prefer something like Cutter Dykstra and Steve Braun---the bloodlines!

[Hate those Rodents]

We could also throw in a PTBNL and give them Sizemore at this time next year!

[nate82]

I believe a PTBNL has to be named and traded by the end of the season so I don't believe you can wait to trade someone next year.