UFC 100

[Menace II Sobriety]

I heard from a very knowledgable MMA fan that Lesner's take would be about 4 mil total for the last fight. I do not know all of the totals but the basis of this was based off of the disclosed 400k which gets a heavy tax on it along with a locker room payout (which sounds to me like unmarked bills in a bag) and a % of the pay per view totals. Does anyone with more knowledge on this issue have thoughts on this?

[Roscoe Chill]

I really don't think so. I'm sure Lesnar signed a contract with the UFC, and got money up front, or some kind of deal where he's getting more money than what the take was for the fight, but no way does he get a significant % of the Pay Per View totals. And no way is he taking in $4M. $1M? Very possible I guess.

Are you sure you're not talking about Fedor and Affliction? As I've pointed out in this thread, Fedor's opponents are taking in $1.5M, $800K, $500K etc, and Fedor is always listed at $300K per fight. That amount is pretty high when compared to UFC fight purses, but it's definitely not ALL of what Fedor made in the fights. HE has a deal where he gets a significant percentage of the Pay Per View with Affliction. You might be getting your fighters confused?

[Roscoe Chill]

Wow...the entire Affliction Trilogy event has been canceled.

 

One can only hope that this is great for Fedor to the UFC.

[Menace II Sobriety]

No I am talking about Lesner, he came into the UFC and immediately got the big fights and was put on the fast track. He is a huge draw and headlined the biggest PPV UFC has ever put on. Some of these guys do get a % off PPV money. I do not remember the exact number but at 1.5 million PPV's purchased at roughly 50 bucks per that is 75 million in cash flow. Also bars and clubs that show the event have to pay about 500 to have it. Add in the merchandise and advertising they brought in and the take in could be near 100 million.

 

I will find out how that 4 million was estimated later today and will edit, but it makes sense that the headliner of a major event like this would make much more than the disclosed amount of 400k.

[Roscoe Chill]

There's just no way Brock Lesnar is making $12-$16 Million per year. Sorry. I said he's more than likely making more than the $400K purse, but unless I see proof, no way I believe it's $4 Million. Fast growing sport, but their fighters aren't making NFL superstar coin.

 

And UFC 100 was great, but all of them are in my opinion, and I don't know how this one compared to the other pay per view dollars. Sure, it was billed as the biggest PPV ever, and it probably was, just going off all the media coverage leading up to and after the event, but I'll take UFC 92 (Christmas '08) over this one.

[Menace II Sobriety]

I agree with you that Lesner making 12 million a year seems high, but on the flipside it seems hard to believe that the UFC can bring in 100 and only pay out 400k x 12 or however many fights there are(400k is for the title fights so it would be less). My point is that it is hard to believe that they can bring in that type of money and only pay out 5% to the actual fighters. I will try to get some links tonight and post them tonight to validate that payout.

[phxMILWfan]

I just want to point out that it isn't like the UFC planned for Lesnar to headline UFC 100. Mir had a knee injury and that is what caused their fight to be pushed back to UFC 100, it was scheduled for like 3 months earlier.

[DuWayne Steurer]

This is just another point in the case that these promotions simply can't compete with the UFC. Without Fedor, Affliction proved they have nothing. They're talking that Affliction may fold completely (per Sherdog).

 

These start-ups just can't afford to have *anything* go wrong. Look what happened to EliteXC when Slice got knocked out by a nobody.

[Roscoe Chill]

Affliction has agreed to no longer promote fights, and will now become a sponsor to UFC. How about that for a turn of events over the last couple days? I sure hope UFC can now get Fedor in the fold...but I still think it's hardly a given.

[TracyThom]

You aren't joking about the turn of events. Well, now the UFC won't have to blur the Affliction logo on the clothing of some of their fighters when they are showing classic bouts. So, is Strikeforce going to be able to outbid UFC for Fedor's service? Doubtful.

[brettac1]

I would bet Fedor never goes to the UFC, no matter how much money he gets offered. They just aren't going to make the concessions to get him, unfortunately. Definitely would be too bad, but I just don't feel all that confident about it.

 

My guess would be that he goes back to fighting outside the US, maybe Dream.

[pogokat]

cool---dream fights are free on hdnet

[DuWayne Steurer]

I'd really like to see Brock defend his belt 2, maybe even 3 times before he would fight Fedor. If he could defeat, let's say Vazquez, Mir (rubber match) and Carwin, there'd be no doubt that he'd be the unofficial 2nd best heavyweight in the world behind Fedor. The PPV take for that fight would be massive.

 

I read an interview with Fedor back shortly after Brock beat Coutere where Fedor said he'd definitely be intrigued by a fight with Lesnar, but he wanted to see him get a few more fights under his belt and gain some experience.

[Roscoe Chill]

Dana White just said (don't remember where) that Fedor would immediately fight for the belt if he's brought in to the fold. Without Fedor in the picture, Lesnar will fight the winner of Nogueira-Couture next I'm sure.

[Roscoe Chill]

Obviously there's no playoff system to determine who will get a title shot, and when. Timing has just as much to do with it as pecking order. We've obviously got some MMA fans on here, so I'll just list off the upcoming events and the bigger fights and it's at least POSSIBLE to put a timeline on when some anticipated matchups would/could happen:

 

 

UFC 101: BJ Penn v. Kenny Florian.......Anderson Silva v. Forrest Griffin

 

UFC 102: Randy Couture v. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.......Keith Jardine v. Thiago Silva.....and my favorite of the night: Nate Marquardt v. Demian Maia

 

UFC 103: Dan Henderson v. Rich Franklin (rumored)......Mike Swick v. Martin Kampmann

 

 

THESE ARE ALL UNOFFICIAL AND/OR RUMORS:

 

UFC 104: Lyoto Machida v. Mauricio Rua........Cain Velazquez v. Shane Carwin

 

UFC 105: Wanderlei Silva v. Michael Bisping

 

UFC 106: This is where I'd expect Lesnar vs. Nogueira/Couture? Maybe St. Pierre vs. Swick/Kampmann? That's all NDOG speculation.

 

UFC 107: Quinton Jackson v. Rashad Evans........Frank Mir v. Cheick Kongo

[phxMILWfan]

Fedor, UFC finalizing deal!

 

http://mmafrenzy.com/11096/report-fedor-emelianenko-ufc-finalizing-deal/

 

 

According to the LA Times, citing an unnamed source with information on the negotiations, Fedor Emelianenko and the UFC are finalizing a deal that would see the top-ranked heavyweight compete inside the Octagon:

 

A long-awaited agreement between the Ultimate Fighting Championship and the man considered the world's best mixed martial arts fighter, Fedor Emelianenko, is expected to be announced by UFC President Dana White on Friday, a source with information about the negotiations told The Times today.

 

The source, who asked not to be identified because he's not authorized to speak publicly about the dealings, called negotiations between the UFC and Fedor "very civil" just days after Fedor's scheduled Affliction Trilogy fight Saturday against Josh Barnett was canceled.

[phxMILWfan]

I think either UFC 106 or 108 will be Lesnar-Emelianenko. Both are in Las Vegas. They would be crazy to have them fight at UFC 105 in England or at UFC 107 in Memphis. Can't wait for Friday's announcement.

[pogokat]

wouldn't they want Fedor to fight asap? He's ready for a fight with his affliction bout cancelled.

[phxMILWfan]

M-1 Global now is denying the story is accurate. I think it may still happen. Also, Lesnar just fought. He didn't really get hurt at all but I think that the UFC will want them to match up first and they will want it in Vegas. It will still take time to promote that fight so I think UFC 106 will still be Fedor vs Brock. That gives them time to train for each other. The UFC won't want Fedor to fight anyone else first. If someone besides Lesnar beats him they may never get their dream match up.

[TracyThom]

Exactly, the UFC can't afford someone like Cheick Kongo getting a surprise win against Brock. Gabriel Gonzaga's KO of Mirko Cro Cop screwed the UFC's money matchup of Cro Cop vs. Captain America Randy Couture. They will hold Brock back and wait for the Fedor matchup.

[Roscoe Chill]

They really wouldn't be holding him back though, as UFC 106 is less than 4 months away from right now. Fedor would have quite the layoff, but Lesnar would almost be right on schedule. I'd almost even say UFC 108 on January 2nd would be the better bet.

[DougJones43]

How does Fedor's Affliction contract work? Is it a certain number of fights? And if so, does this cancellation of his upcoming bout have any effect on his contractual status?

 

I'm surprised Affliction isn't trying to find a fill-in to fight him, although maybe Fedor wouldn't have to agree to a different opponent.

[phxMILWfan]

Affliction is no more.

[DougJones43]

Thanks. I'm a casual MMA follower, as you can probably tell. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

I take it this was to be their last event then? Again, I wonder why they wouldn't try to figure out some way to keep Fedor on the card.

[brettac1]

It probably would have been the last event regardless. They were just flushing cash down the drain to pay fighters.

 

Supposedly the reason the card got cancelled was Showtime PPV didn't feel like losing a ton of cash by not having Fedor in a viable match. They would have lost money regardless on the event, but much less for Fedor vs Barnett.

 

They were pretty terrible at the business side of things, but they had GREAT events. This one would have been better than UFC 100, IMO. Too bad.

 

And Lesnar should probably fight the winner of Velasquez and Carwin. I LOVE Nog, though, but I don't think he deserves that fight after he beats Randy (which I think he will). Granted, this is the UFC, and guys don't really always get title shots based on merit (which I understand, because it is a business and they need to sell the PPV's), but I just don't want to see Nog get killed.